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shipitgood
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« on: July 20, 2014, 05:13:41 PM »

Reads, It's a reg and he likes to 3 bet my button opens, he does this really wide. We love calling and making him fold post flop, or sometimes we just 4 bet him.

20nl 5 handed,  . We have £55 Villian has £37 at the start of the hand.

We are OTB, it's folded to us we make it 60p.

SB 3 bets to £2.10 total. We call pot is £4.6.

Flop is    , villain has quite a few aces heres. Also quite a nice board for us.

Villian bets his usual 75% contin bet, £3.2. We min click it back, I know I know, I hate min click backs too! but it works really sweet against this opponent.

He calls. Pot is £17.40.

Turn 

He checks, I bet £8.70 he calls. Pot is £34.80. It's getting a bit grim.

But we got a beautiful river card, 

He checks, I move all in (he has £22 behind), he folds.

Good he folded, though pretty ugly and bad hand!

I guess this is going 2 get slated, it's it just not worth doing these high variance things against people that generally need the near nuts to get it in by river?
 

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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2014, 05:26:17 PM »

This is a huge huge pile of spew from start to finish. You got zero equity, no blockers and to me it very much sounds like this play is an ego driven thing vs this specific opponent.

If you agree then i would suggest taking it all out of your game imo.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2014, 05:35:01 PM »

I don't mind peeling so much if the guy wont cbet often and plays reaaaaally face up post flop where we can just fold to bets. This player doesn't sound like that kind of player though.

He's the one player at the table who is probs gonna put us in tough spots the most often, so what's the point in getting tangled up in a dick swinging competition when we can just take easier money elsewhere, with lower variance? It's the same as saying there's £20 on the table right in front of you, or £20 a 3 mile run away where you are going to have to run away from people chasing you, which one will you go for?
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2014, 05:42:16 PM »

I'm probably not involved in this pot after we get three bet, our hand really isn't that good and that's a decent raise. I might call versus some people, but I'm not the one at the table here so idk if this is the case.

How is this quite a nice board for us? It looks absolutely horrible to me. We've flopped 0 equity on a monotone board with two broadway cards against an oop 3b, and he hasn't cbet small. This board should hit a pretty decent amount of his 3bing range, and when we decide to minclick we give him a wonderful price to call with anything.

Turn card isn't good for us. Almost everything that has called the flop is going to either pick up equity on this turn card or stick around because it's not really a scare card for any of his decent made hands. So, I just give up here.

As played we pretty much have to jam this river, but its a situation we should never be in. We're running a nearly 200bb bluff with absolutely nothing at all on a board where we don't expect him to fold a great deal. By the river we're really repping very thin too, pretty much just the and the 77 since I expect AA, JJ and QQ to be 4bet pre, and the has taken away most of our pair+flush draws that then became two pair, and then became a boat. I'd expect he folded a hand like AK, AJ, A10 with no spade here, I'd be very surprised to see him fold a flush.

By the looks of it, this guy has got you in a great spot. You're not folding hands to his well sized three bets, and you're taking off on flops that should hit him pretty hard with 0 equity and barrelling off 200bbs at him.

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I definitely know what the board reads as this time :p
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humour is very much encouraged, however theres humour and theres not.
I disrepectfully agree with Matt Smiley
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