Celtic - reinstated into the CL

[Teacake]

Ironside (I understand the point you are making and really don't know what Kmac and Teacake are getting over exited about)

I don't think it is practical to have the onus on UEFA to check players.  In poker we look at rules and say - yeah but if you do that its an angle-shooters charter.  imo putting the onus on UEFA to check before the match would be exactly that eg team puts a suspended player in the line up, but spells his name wrongly or mistypes an id number of some kind and chaos results.  I can think of a myriad of things that could go wrong with a procedure where an official has to check pre-match.  In this case the simplest method is the best with the onus 100% on the team.

Pretty sure me and Teacake are both on the same hymn sheet here and also understand Ironsides point.  That doesn't stop him being wrong. 

You know the old saying opinions are like arseholes. 

Yeah very much this.

Double up i can assure you that I'm not getting over excited about this and agree with your thoughts on it, but getting called a freaking idiot because I don't agree with someone's opinion is a bit much.

[doubleup]

to kinboshi lol

Thanks for proving my point

Obv it isn't possible for Dtd to 100% stop someone who is banned from entering a comp and following your logic, if they did manage to enter they would be able to play.

[Ironside]

Ironside (I understand the point you are making and really don't know what Kmac and Teacake are getting over exited about)

I don't think it is practical to have the onus on UEFA to check players.  In poker we look at rules and say - yeah but if you do that its an angle-shooters charter.  imo putting the onus on UEFA to check before the match would be exactly that eg team puts a suspended player in the line up, but spells his name wrongly or mistypes an id number of some kind and chaos results.  I can think of a myriad of things that could go wrong with a procedure where an official has to check pre-match.  In this case the simplest method is the best with the onus 100% on the team.

Pretty sure me and Teacake are both on the same hymn sheet here and also understand Ironsides point.  That doesn't stop him being wrong. 

You know the old saying opinions are like arseholes. 

Yeah very much this.

Double up i can assure you that I'm not getting over excited about this and agree with your thoughts on it, but getting called a freaking idiot because I don't agree with someone's opinion is a bit much.

having my intelligence questioned because I don't agree with me and you were twisting the subject and question leads me to reply in kind

[Ironside]

to kinboshi lol

Thanks for proving my point

Obv it isn't possible for Dtd to 100% stop someone who is banned from entering a comp and following your logic, if they did manage to enter they would be able to play.

DTD has a full proof way of stopping people who are banned from playing

they cant get in, for a start, and if they did get in they would find into impossible to register

[arbboy]

I think uefa owe it to the paying public to ensure teams arent making these mistakes before the game goes ahead.  This game was a farce because no matter what the result was, it wouldnt stand.  People are paying good money to watch this, travelling abroad to go to the game etc and the game is nothing more than a training game.

Some teams cant afford to hire experienced administrators and some teams dont qualify for europe every year so may not be aware of proper procedures for  dealing with things in the european game, but I dont think the fans should be punished by having to fork out their hard earned money to watch a game that couldve been legitimized by a Uefa official taking 5 minutes to check on the eligibility of all players before the game started.

Huge plus 1 to this. There is no reason at all why uefa can't do this for every game and send to the ref ore game to make sure this never happens and stop this ever happening again.

[doubleup]

to kinboshi lol

Thanks for proving my point

Obv it isn't possible for Dtd to 100% stop someone who is banned from entering a comp and following your logic, if they did manage to enter they would be able to play.

DTD has a full proof way of stopping people who are banned from playing

they cant get in, for a start, and if they did get in they would find into impossible to register

I feel a prop bet coming on  

[celtic]

I think uefa owe it to the paying public to ensure teams arent making these mistakes before the game goes ahead.  This game was a farce because no matter what the result was, it wouldnt stand.  People are paying good money to watch this, travelling abroad to go to the game etc and the game is nothing more than a training game.

Some teams cant afford to hire experienced administrators and some teams dont qualify for europe every year so may not be aware of proper procedures for  dealing with things in the european game, but I dont think the fans should be punished by having to fork out their hard earned money to watch a game that couldve been legitimized by a Uefa official taking 5 minutes to check on the eligibility of all players before the game started.

This

Definitely not this.

It's not up to uefa to ensure teams do things right. It's up to the teams. Their rules are published in advance, it's up to the club to ensure they adhere to them.

[Teacake]

Ironside (I understand the point you are making and really don't know what Kmac and Teacake are getting over exited about)

I don't think it is practical to have the onus on UEFA to check players.  In poker we look at rules and say - yeah but if you do that its an angle-shooters charter.  imo putting the onus on UEFA to check before the match would be exactly that eg team puts a suspended player in the line up, but spells his name wrongly or mistypes an id number of some kind and chaos results.  I can think of a myriad of things that could go wrong with a procedure where an official has to check pre-match.  In this case the simplest method is the best with the onus 100% on the team.

Pretty sure me and Teacake are both on the same hymn sheet here and also understand Ironsides point.  That doesn't stop him being wrong. 

You know the old saying opinions are like arseholes. 

Yeah very much this.

Double up i can assure you that I'm not getting over excited about this and agree with your thoughts on it, but getting called a freaking idiot because I don't agree with someone's opinion is a bit much.

having my intelligence questioned because I don't agree with me and you were twisting the subject and question leads me to reply in kind

Jeez, you misunderstood the tone of the post and responded with personal abuse.

[Bazzaboy]

I think uefa owe it to the paying public to ensure teams arent making these mistakes before the game goes ahead.  This game was a farce because no matter what the result was, it wouldnt stand.  People are paying good money to watch this, travelling abroad to go to the game etc and the game is nothing more than a training game.

Some teams cant afford to hire experienced administrators and some teams dont qualify for europe every year so may not be aware of proper procedures for  dealing with things in the european game, but I dont think the fans should be punished by having to fork out their hard earned money to watch a game that couldve been legitimized by a Uefa official taking 5 minutes to check on the eligibility of all players before the game started.

This

Definitely not this.

It's not up to uefa to ensure teams do things right. It's up to the teams. Their rules are published in advance, it's up to the club to ensure they adhere to them.

The problem is that things like this don't do football any good. Therefore if possible something should be put in place to eliminate the possibility of it happening again. As I said earlier I don't have any sympathy for Legia but I do have sympathy for their players who have suffered due to an administrative error. I don't understand the aversion to putting something in place which can stop that from happening in future.

[kinboshi]

Players can't use performance enhancing drugs, but it appears UEFA would be wrong to test people for this, and it should be left to the clubs to police.

[George2Loose]

Players can't use performance enhancing drugs, but it appears UEFA would be wrong to test people for this, and it should be left to the clubs to police.

Wins

[Tal]

What was the question again?

[celtic]

Players can't use performance enhancing drugs, but it appears UEFA would be wrong to test people for this, and it should be left to the clubs to police.

UEFA is there to govern the game, not hold everyone's hand and walk them through what they should and shouldn't do.

[doubleup]

Players can't use performance enhancing drugs, but it appears UEFA would be wrong to test people for this, and it should be left to the clubs to police.

You really are the king of straw-man arguments

[Boba Fett]

The only people that dont want this implemented, something that should be quick for Uefa to implement and carry out on a match by match basis and that would be good for the game as a whole and for the fans, is Celtic fans.  I can only imagine they dont want this kind of hand holding for other teams in the hope that any other time they get pumped they might sneak back in through a rule breach