2014-15 NFL Discussion thread

[bobby1]

Ray Rice reinstated.

Form an orderly queue.

Crikey.

While this is an extremely disturbing video, doesn't it put in perspective the calls for Ched Evans to be allowed to play football?

Rape is infinitely more serious crime than assualt, yet people are willing "to give him a second chance".

Do people need to see a video of Evans crime before deciding it is not appropriate to see him return?

Well that's exactly what happened in the Ray Rice case.

[the sicilian]

The only thing that surprises me in these cases is that people are surprised these things happen with brain dead athletes who have spent their whole life being told how great they are by friends/family/clubs/colleges/agents/sponsors (the vast majority who only care for their own selfish needs) and become used to the whole sense of being able to walk on water and do whatever they want.  Add huge amounts of money into the mix when they turn pro at a young age with no previous experience of dealing with money and a poor level of upbringing/education in a lot of cases and it's surprising it doesn't happen more often imo.

I dont think its the preserve of the rich and famous..unfortunatly woman beating is an all too regular occurance in everyday society and the excuses for it are even less tenable than those above.... the fact the person is in the public eye makes it becomes news..like anything else in life when a celebrity is reported to be going through a real life crisis its as though they were the first person in history to be affected like this

[Sheriff Fatman]

Arguably, Ray Rice's 2013 form will be a bigger deterrent to his chances of getting signed than the incident in question!  That is by no means intended to imply that the video wasn't abhorrent, but if everything had been accelerated by a year then he would possibly have been signed to someone's roster already.

Ched Evans' case is on another level to this, but the NFL have been down a similar route previously (Ben Roethlisberger springs to mind as an example).  Go back even further and one of the true NFL-greats of recent times, Ray Lewis, was caught up in a murder case cast a shadow on his career, but ultimately became a foot-note to what he achieved on the field.

The NFL has had more than it's fair share of murky waters to negotiate.

[Kmac84]

What we backing tonight folks. 

Few lines I liked. 

Under 49.5 Colts @ Browns (I know its a national game and we should be on overs but I think that may well be factored into this line)
Bills + 10
Under 40.5 9ers @ Raiders
Vikes - 3.5
Jags + 6.5

I was toying with Carolina + 9.5 but the line has moved here.

[Tal]

What we backing tonight folks. 

Few lines I liked. 

Under 49.5 Colts @ Browns (I know its a national game and we should be on overs but I think that may well be factored into this line)
Bills + 10
Under 40.5 9ers @ Raiders
Vikes - 3.5
Jags + 6.5

I was toying with Carolina + 9.5 but the line has moved here.

Giants -2.5. Tennessee are just awful and have pretty much given up. Even the Giants and their terrible run defense should ensure they win by a score.

[Kmac84]

Ha, I had Giants took them out.  Put them in.  Took them out. The line  being so close has mind fucked me into a state of confusion. 

[Tal]

Ha, I had Giants took them out.  Put them in.  Took them out. The line  being so close has mind fucked me into a state of confusion. 

As ever, backing a poor team against a terrible one is fraught with danger.

[Tal]

Bills +10
Giants -2.5
Jax +6.5 (if watt is on the field, Jacksonville defense, try marking him)
Colts -3 (Colts defensive anytime TD bet on the side)
Steelers +3 (really like this, even in Cincy)
Rams -2.5 (just opposing the Redskins can't be that bad!)

Paddy 20% bonus acca, please, for Christmas!

[Marky147]

Cinci -3
Colts -3
Texans -6.5
Giants -2.5
Saints -8.5
Rams -2.5

Perm me up, buttercup


Dalton has to have a big game sometime, right?

[Kmac84]

I was toying with Carolina + 9.5 but the line has moved here.

Sigh.

[Kmac84]

Such a bullshit call against the Chiefs there. 

Wonder who the officiating crew want to see reach the playoffs in a decent spot. 

[maccol]

Such a bullshit call against the Chiefs there. 

Wonder who the officiating crew want to see reach the playoffs in a decent spot. 

Now there speaks a man from Glasgow. 
PS Don't go off on one here KMac its meant in jest.

[Kmac84]

Even Hugh Dallas and Willie Collum wouldn't have got that one wrong. Who said video replays were a good thing?

[Tal]

Even Hugh Dallas and Willie Collum wouldn't have got that one wrong. Who said video replays were a good thing?

I would suggest not watching Bills@Broncos

[Kmac84]

Even Hugh Dallas and Willie Collum wouldn't have got that one wrong. Who said video replays were a good thing?

I would suggest not watching Bills@Broncos

I was happy with the overall outcome there.  #talkingthroughthepocket