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Rexas
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 19, 2014, 02:43:42 PM »
Quote from: verndog158 on September 19, 2014, 01:00:50 PM
If the cards were easily retrievable, as suggested, it probably means they weren't in the muck. If so then I agree with rexarse and co, that common sense means they are retrieved and hand played out
I was at the table when this happened, the cards were absolutely in the muck. The guy who was all in was sat in seat 9 and placed them clearly on top of the pile of cards that constitutes "the muck". They were only easily retrievable because he put them on top, not inside.
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 19, 2014, 04:36:57 PM »
come on...can't wait any longer...what ruling was given
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 19, 2014, 04:45:44 PM »
Quote from: Rexas on September 19, 2014, 02:43:42 PM
Quote from: verndog158 on September 19, 2014, 01:00:50 PM
If the cards were easily retrievable, as suggested, it probably means they weren't in the muck. If so then I agree with rexarse and co, that common sense means they are retrieved and hand played out
I was at the table when this happened, the cards were absolutely in the muck. The guy who was all in was sat in seat 9 and placed them clearly on top of the pile of cards that constitutes "the muck". They were only easily retrievable because he put them on top, not inside.
But you could identify them easily, as could he?
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 19, 2014, 10:05:50 PM »
Quote from: StuartHopkin on September 19, 2014, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: Rexas on September 19, 2014, 02:43:42 PM
Quote from: verndog158 on September 19, 2014, 01:00:50 PM
If the cards were easily retrievable, as suggested, it probably means they weren't in the muck. If so then I agree with rexarse and co, that common sense means they are retrieved and hand played out
I was at the table when this happened, the cards were absolutely in the muck. The guy who was all in was sat in seat 9 and placed them clearly on top of the pile of cards that constitutes "the muck". They were only easily retrievable because he put them on top, not inside.
But you could identify them easily, as could he?
Yes, I could be absolutely certain of which two cards he had held.
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Quote from: verndog158 on June 29, 2014, 07:49:39 PM
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 20, 2014, 08:20:13 AM »
Quote from: Rexas on September 19, 2014, 10:05:50 PM
Quote from: StuartHopkin on September 19, 2014, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: Rexas on September 19, 2014, 02:43:42 PM
Quote from: verndog158 on September 19, 2014, 01:00:50 PM
If the cards were easily retrievable, as suggested, it probably means they weren't in the muck. If so then I agree with rexarse and co, that common sense means they are retrieved and hand played out
I was at the table when this happened, the cards were absolutely in the muck. The guy who was all in was sat in seat 9 and placed them clearly on top of the pile of cards that constitutes "the muck". They were only easily retrievable because he put them on top, not inside.
But you could identify them easily, as could he?
Yes, I could be absolutely certain of which two cards he had held.
Could the Dealer?
If so I'd say his hand is retrieved and placed face up and the board dealt out. Whether he gets to eat his pudding depends then on the cards not some f==k up
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 20, 2014, 08:37:55 AM »
If the guys a local:
cards speak, retrieve then run the board.
If the guys not a local/ is a southerner/ doesn't tip/ wanker to dealers or just in general a bit of a knob:
cards are dead cos they been mucked?
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 20, 2014, 09:06:44 AM »
Quote from: biggy333x on September 20, 2014, 08:37:55 AM
If the guys a local:
cards speak, retrieve then run the board.
If the guys not a local/ is a southerner/ doesn't tip/ wanker to dealers or just in general a bit of a knob:
cards are dead cos they been mucked?
Absolutely certain that a DTD TD is not varying his or her ruling depending on whether the player is a local or not!
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 20, 2014, 09:07:18 AM »
What was he eating?
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 20, 2014, 09:21:31 AM »
Quote from: kinboshi on September 20, 2014, 09:07:18 AM
What was he eating?
I'm pleased someone's finally started asking the right questions.
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 20, 2014, 10:12:43 AM »
Quote from: smurf on September 19, 2014, 04:36:57 PM
come on...can't wait any longer...what ruling was given
Ruling was to retrieve the mucked cards and play them face up as All in and a call
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September 20, 2014, 10:40:46 AM »
Did he order a pudding after?
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 20, 2014, 11:21:08 AM »
The muck is not some mystical location that magically kills anything that might come into contact with it never ever to be seen again.
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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Quote from: Cf on September 20, 2014, 11:21:08 AM
The muck is not some mystical location that magically kills anything that might come into contact with it never ever to be seen again.
You're right, the food's not that bad.
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 20, 2014, 12:14:46 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on September 20, 2014, 11:48:13 AM
Quote from: Cf on September 20, 2014, 11:21:08 AM
The muck is not some mystical location that magically kills anything that might come into contact with it never ever to be seen again.
You're right, the food's not that bad.
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Re: Another Ruling Debate
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September 20, 2014, 12:54:03 PM »
Quote from: kinboshi on September 20, 2014, 11:48:13 AM
Quote from: Cf on September 20, 2014, 11:21:08 AM
The muck is not some mystical location that magically kills anything that might come into contact with it never ever to be seen again.
You're right, the food's not that bad.
I feel like I'm playing into your hands when I call this statement :p
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Quote from: verndog158 on June 29, 2014, 07:49:39 PM
humour is very much encouraged, however theres humour and theres not.
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 04, 2014, 05:40:09 PM
I disrepectfully agree with Matt
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