UK General Election 2015

[George2Loose]

You have to wonder if the Tories have done such a good job and Ed is so bad why Cameron isn't running away with this election?

[Kmac84]

I've always wondered who would do the negotiating between SNP and Labour post 7 May, if it comes to it? Sturgeon  isn't a MP  won't it be whoever leads SNP MPs in Westminster? Salmond?

Salmond isn't the leader of the SNP @ Westminister Angus Robertson is.  Salmond is just an ordinary MP he doesn't have sny special status.  Post May 7th I think Hosie will take a greater role.

[Kmac84]

Maybe the old boy just wasn't as clever as you.  

Maybe it was Larry?

There are plenty of negs about the SNP, they aren't my party.  

Seems Nicola was very well received down south from what I heard, but hey your the guy that had a hardon for Maggie so we'll leave it at that.  

Maybe you are larry (nb)

Course she was well received down south.  Most want her in power with red ed so you get another chance to fuck off now the oil prices have halved since the yes/no!  Most tories would stomach 5 years of red ed/nic busto'ing the country as long as nic got another yes/no vote and won it so the tories could stay in power forever post 2020 in England.

Not sure if your stupid, ignorant or just fucked from buzzing yer maws nail varnish.

[BigAdz]

You have to wonder if the Tories have done such a good job and Ed is so bad why Cameron isn't running away with this election?

That's very easy to answer. Too many dyed in the wool reds who just vote that way "cos me dad did, and everyone round ere does". And that is their in depth analysis of the situation.

Has nobody watched the news today? Even the BBC couldn't water down the news on lowest unemployment for years, real earnings going up etc. Not sure what Camerons mob have to do before more folk out there realise we aint doing that bad, all things considered.

If some of you/more people travelled round Europe and saw the lack of money/investment and hope in the vast majority of our neighbours, you may too think, we aren't doing to badly with the current mob, and the direction we are going.

[George2Loose]

If the Lib Dems halve in number then Clegg is likely to go. Who's next in line and will that mean their popularity will grow if they're back on the opposition benches?

[George2Loose]

You have to wonder if the Tories have done such a good job and Ed is so bad why Cameron isn't running away with this election?

That's very easy to answer. Too many dyed in the wool reds who just vote that way "cos me dad did, and everyone round ere does". And that is their in depth analysis of the situation.

Has nobody watched the news today? Even the BBC couldn't water down the news on lowest unemployment for years, real earnings going up etc. Not sure what Camerons mob have to do before more folk out there realise we aint doing that bad, all things considered.

If some of you/more people travelled round Europe and saw the lack of money/investment and hope in the vast majority of our neighbours, you may too think, we aren't doing to badly with the current mob, and the direction we are going.

I'd be a lot more inclined to vote Tory if they hadn't cut the top rate of tax for the wealthiest in these times of austerity. Say one thing- do another for the boys club

[Ironside]

the SNP did deals at Holyrood with the Tories from 2007-2011

i wouldn't suggest that their ideology would outweigh any pragmatism post may7th!

for example, you would think that labour trident SNP no trident might be a sticking point, but in practice we're not giving it up so the SNP will give that argument up

i think the thing that rankles the english voter (marginal and tory) is that scotland already gets a disporoportionate share of the pie under the barnett formula and one of the bribes to get the no vote through in the independence referendum through was devo-max more money for scotland

under a lab minority government that is "supply and confidence" going vote by vote and relying on the snp, you'd have to say that the snp holds the power (where is miliband without them, can't get a queens specch through, second election)......and will extract a lot more concessions

i think that articulates the fear.

This.

From now to polling day the Tories will hammer home the SNP tail wagging the Labour dog.
When it comes to placing that cross, will the marginal voter really vote for a  milliband/balls/sturgeon/salmond unknown bag of tricks?

barnett formula where scotland gets a bigger slice of the cake than the rest of the UK due to fact it contributes more ingredients to that cake
for years scottish money was spent inside the m25 and its only with the barnett forumla that we are getting back more money per head than the rest of the UK because
income from inside the scottish boundaries is more per head than the rest of the UK
we aint getting anything for nothing

ps any chance of breaking the habit of a lifetime and giving us some negatives for the snp campaign?  They must exist after Nic's brown nosing last night on national tv surely?   She is currently making Clegg look just about palatable as a right hand man in a non majority government.  Never thought i would see the day i said that!

correct me if i am wrong kmac you are much further to the left than the SNP more a SSP or a party with the beliefs of tommy sheridan

[Teacake]

Sturgeon wasn't begging Milliband she was playing to the Scottish voters. Cameron is on Eds case to rule out any form of deal with the SNP as that plays well for Dave in England, Sturgeon is just playing the other side of that in Scotland by saying Ed would rather the Tories got back in than him doing a deal with the SNP and that if he did so he would never be forgiven in Scotland. She's basically just putting the squeeze on him. It's not even particularly nuanced, she knows he'll never admit it pre election as it hangs his SLab candidates out to dry and would lose him a massive number of votes in England.

[DMorgan]

"Won't somebody please think of the wealth creators"

Reminded me of this interesting TED snippet:

[relaedgc]

I have a love/hate relationship with politics on the basis that we are at the mercy of, as my politixs lecturer said in college, the tyranny of the majority.

Most voters are thoroughly uninterested and also conpletely ignorant. How we ever go about resolving that I simply don't know. The entire premise of an election is built on a foundation of deception, lying and misleading information to dissolve credibility in opponents that it's understandable why people just stick to their mantra of, "I am working class - voting Labour" or "I am well off - vote Tory".

I don't really care who people vote for. I just wish they had a reason beyond some pre defined stereotype that ceased to be relevant after Blair moved Labour right of centre.

[Kmac84]

Sturgeon wasn't begging Milliband she was playing to the Scottish voters. Cameron is on Eds case to rule out any form of deal with the SNP as that plays well for Dave in England, Sturgeon is just playing the other side of that in Scotland by saying Ed would rather the Tories got back in than him doing a deal with the SNP and that if he did so he would never be forgiven in Scotland. She's basically just putting the squeeze on him. It's not even particularly nuanced, she knows he'll never admit it pre election as it hangs his SLab candidates out to dry and would lose him a massive number of votes in England.

Mostly this but it also appeals the to the hard left across the rUK when she puts Ed in this spot.   

[Kmac84]

the SNP did deals at Holyrood with the Tories from 2007-2011

i wouldn't suggest that their ideology would outweigh any pragmatism post may7th!

for example, you would think that labour trident SNP no trident might be a sticking point, but in practice we're not giving it up so the SNP will give that argument up

i think the thing that rankles the english voter (marginal and tory) is that scotland already gets a disporoportionate share of the pie under the barnett formula and one of the bribes to get the no vote through in the independence referendum through was devo-max more money for scotland

under a lab minority government that is "supply and confidence" going vote by vote and relying on the snp, you'd have to say that the snp holds the power (where is miliband without them, can't get a queens specch through, second election)......and will extract a lot more concessions

i think that articulates the fear.

This.

From now to polling day the Tories will hammer home the SNP tail wagging the Labour dog.
When it comes to placing that cross, will the marginal voter really vote for a  milliband/balls/sturgeon/salmond unknown bag of tricks?

barnett formula where scotland gets a bigger slice of the cake than the rest of the UK due to fact it contributes more ingredients to that cake
for years scottish money was spent inside the m25 and its only with the barnett forumla that we are getting back more money per head than the rest of the UK because
income from inside the scottish boundaries is more per head than the rest of the UK
we aint getting anything for nothing

ps any chance of breaking the habit of a lifetime and giving us some negatives for the snp campaign?  They must exist after Nic's brown nosing last night on national tv surely?   She is currently making Clegg look just about palatable as a right hand man in a non majority government.  Never thought i would see the day i said that!

correct me if i am wrong kmac you are much further to the left than the SNP more a SSP or a party with the beliefs of tommy sheridan

Most definitely left of SNP.  I would hate to be compared to that sex pest Sheridan in anyway. 

I don't think we should look at this in the terms of left and right though, because Labour are supposed to be Left but in policy they are marginally left of the Tories and are still a right of centre party. 

Its about being progressive, trying something different what we have now is failing. 

[nirvana]

"Won't somebody please think of the wealth creators"

Reminded me of this interesting TED snippet:

Good talk that

[BigAdz]

I refer back to my previous comment about unemployment at its lowest level for years and wages up.

If this is, as many on here proclaim, failing, what, pray tell, is moving in the right direction?

As  relaedgc points out, far too many ignorant people acting according to type and oblivious to the facts of what is actually happening.

[George2Loose]

I refer back to my previous comment about unemployment at its lowest level for years and wages up.

If this is, as many on here proclaim, failing, what, pray tell, is moving in the right direction?

As  relaedgc points out, far too many ignorant people acting according to type and oblivious to the facts of what is actually happening.

People make a choice based on many factors. Who are u to question why?