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Doobs
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #30 on:
December 18, 2014, 05:17:53 PM »
Quote from: tikay on December 18, 2014, 04:52:06 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 04:43:53 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on December 18, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
I was offended Kmac. Horrible suggestion.
Wind yer neck in.
There are far more extreme ways to get rid of them.
Entitlement by birth right is so wrong on many levels and it is no wonder the country is in the shit when we prop this lot up with handout after handout, then add to that all their elitis friends who wouldn't know a hard days graft if it bit them in the arse, all the while pensioners are struggling to eat and heat their homes through no fault of their own other than corporate greed. The disabled and unemployed are scapegoated and struck by austerity measures
whilst that twat William makes a profession out of being unemployed.
To be fair,
he does have a full time job as an air ambulance pilot at Cambridge airport
. From what I can tell he gets some decent holiday entitlement.
Correct.
The salary is
circa
£40,000, which he donates to the Air Ambulance Charity.
Doesn't he start next spring?
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #31 on:
December 18, 2014, 05:20:40 PM »
Quote from: Doobs on December 18, 2014, 05:13:09 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 04:57:22 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 04:53:05 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on December 18, 2014, 04:48:09 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on December 18, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
I was offended Kmac. Horrible suggestion.
Wind yer neck in.
There are far more extreme ways to get rid of them.
Entitlement by birth right is so wrong on many levels and it is no wonder the country is in the shit when we prop this lot up with handout after handout, then add to that all their elitis friends who wouldn't know a hard days graft if it bit them in the arse, all the while pensioners are struggling to eat and heat their homes through no fault of their own other than corporate greed. The disabled and unemployed are scapegoated and struck by austerity measures whilst that twat William makes a profession out of being unemployed.
I agree with a huge part of your overall sentiment but I think the patriotism the Royal Family provide as a whole as well as the tourism benefits far outweigh any expenditure. If we didn't have the Queen what national anthem would we sing? Who would our Armed Forces fight for? No way I want to lick the back of David Camerons head whenever I send a letter. There are many problems with our economic/political system and I understand the Royal Family are representative to some degree of that, but we have to live a little as a country. God Save The Queen.
The tourism factor is vastly overrated imo.
Why do your armed forces have to fight for anyone? Why not have a defence force that protects its people and borders rather than having them fight for war mongerers.
As for stamps, if you still use them more fool you
but I'd suggest we have an elected 2nd chamber and then perhaps use the images of people who have actually contributed to society on Stamps.
What do you use instead?
I don't post anything. Welcome to the modern world.
Can't help thinking that not posting anything would have been an improvement.
Much too good.
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rfgqqabc
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #32 on:
December 18, 2014, 05:21:18 PM »
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 04:53:05 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on December 18, 2014, 04:48:09 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on December 18, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
I was offended Kmac. Horrible suggestion.
Wind yer neck in.
There are far more extreme ways to get rid of them.
Entitlement by birth right is so wrong on many levels and it is no wonder the country is in the shit when we prop this lot up with handout after handout, then add to that all their elitis friends who wouldn't know a hard days graft if it bit them in the arse, all the while pensioners are struggling to eat and heat their homes through no fault of their own other than corporate greed. The disabled and unemployed are scapegoated and struck by austerity measures whilst that twat William makes a profession out of being unemployed.
I agree with a huge part of your overall sentiment but I think the patriotism the Royal Family provide as a whole as well as the tourism benefits far outweigh any expenditure. If we didn't have the Queen what national anthem would we sing? Who would our Armed Forces fight for? No way I want to lick the back of David Camerons head whenever I send a letter. There are many problems with our economic/political system and I understand the Royal Family are representative to some degree of that, but we have to live a little as a country. God Save The Queen.
The tourism factor is vastly overrated imo.
Why do your armed forces have to fight for anyone? Why not have a defence force that protects its people and borders rather than having them fight for war mongerers.
As for stamps, if you still use them more fool you but I'd suggest we have an elected 2nd chamber and then perhaps use the images of people who have actually contributed to society on Stamps.
Can't believe you copped for the stamp thing mate. This trolling malarky is quite fun.
I don't think the Queen can be considered a warmonger, the Royal Family has no real power anymore. I meant the whole queen and country thing, rather than people specifically fighting for her. What I was getting at is there are a lot of institutions in Britain, Royal this and Royal that, that would be poorer if the neck of our beloved Queen was suddenly snapped.
As for the tourism factor, it is inevitable you think it is overrated, supporters of the Queen probably think it is underrated and I'm presuming many people choose to take in Buckingham Palace as a small part of their time in London and there is no possible way to quantify it.
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tikay
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #33 on:
December 18, 2014, 05:27:03 PM »
Quote from: Doobs on December 18, 2014, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 18, 2014, 04:52:06 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 04:43:53 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on December 18, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
I was offended Kmac. Horrible suggestion.
Wind yer neck in.
There are far more extreme ways to get rid of them.
Entitlement by birth right is so wrong on many levels and it is no wonder the country is in the shit when we prop this lot up with handout after handout, then add to that all their elitis friends who wouldn't know a hard days graft if it bit them in the arse, all the while pensioners are struggling to eat and heat their homes through no fault of their own other than corporate greed. The disabled and unemployed are scapegoated and struck by austerity measures
whilst that twat William makes a profession out of being unemployed.
To be fair,
he does have a full time job as an air ambulance pilot at Cambridge airport
. From what I can tell he gets some decent holiday entitlement.
Correct.
The salary is
circa
£40,000, which he donates to the Air Ambulance Charity.
Doesn't he start next spring?
Quite possibly, I just know it was made known earlier this year. The point is the same, of course.
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #34 on:
December 18, 2014, 05:53:56 PM »
Quote from: tikay on December 18, 2014, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: Doobs on December 18, 2014, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 18, 2014, 04:52:06 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 04:43:53 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on December 18, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
I was offended Kmac. Horrible suggestion.
Wind yer neck in.
There are far more extreme ways to get rid of them.
Entitlement by birth right is so wrong on many levels and it is no wonder the country is in the shit when we prop this lot up with handout after handout, then add to that all their elitis friends who wouldn't know a hard days graft if it bit them in the arse, all the while pensioners are struggling to eat and heat their homes through no fault of their own other than corporate greed. The disabled and unemployed are scapegoated and struck by austerity measures
whilst that twat William makes a profession out of being unemployed.
To be fair,
he does have a full time job as an air ambulance pilot at Cambridge airport
. From what I can tell he gets some decent holiday entitlement.
Correct.
The salary is
circa
£40,000, which he donates to the Air Ambulance Charity.
Doesn't he start next spring?
Quite possibly, I just know it was made known earlier this year. The point is the same, of course.
It's not really though is it? He pays no tax/NI at the moment gets loads of jolly's at the expense of ordinary working men and woman and yet makes some shit gesture like 40k a year to charity. Why not pass up the 1.5 mill refurb give that to charity and use the 40k to do up his free house.
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DaveShoelace
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #35 on:
December 18, 2014, 06:01:02 PM »
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 18, 2014, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: Doobs on December 18, 2014, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 18, 2014, 04:52:06 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 04:43:53 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on December 18, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
I was offended Kmac. Horrible suggestion.
Wind yer neck in.
There are far more extreme ways to get rid of them.
Entitlement by birth right is so wrong on many levels and it is no wonder the country is in the shit when we prop this lot up with handout after handout, then add to that all their elitis friends who wouldn't know a hard days graft if it bit them in the arse, all the while pensioners are struggling to eat and heat their homes through no fault of their own other than corporate greed. The disabled and unemployed are scapegoated and struck by austerity measures
whilst that twat William makes a profession out of being unemployed.
To be fair,
he does have a full time job as an air ambulance pilot at Cambridge airport
. From what I can tell he gets some decent holiday entitlement.
Correct.
The salary is
circa
£40,000, which he donates to the Air Ambulance Charity.
Doesn't he start next spring?
Quite possibly, I just know it was made known earlier this year. The point is the same, of course.
It's not really though is it? He pays no tax/NI at the moment gets loads of jolly's at the expense of ordinary working men and woman and yet makes some shit gesture like 40k a year to charity. Why not pass up the 1.5 mill refurb give that to charity and use the 40k to do up his free house.
40k would barely do the kitchen up in his house to be fair, it's pretty big.
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The Camel
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #36 on:
December 18, 2014, 06:07:09 PM »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/lebron-royal-protocol-arm-kate_n_6301382.html
This is the sort of nonsense that reeally annoys me about the royals.
We aren't allowed to touch them?
Why not?
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Marky147
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #37 on:
December 18, 2014, 06:08:52 PM »
Quote from: The Camel on December 18, 2014, 06:07:09 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/lebron-royal-protocol-arm-kate_n_6301382.html
This is the sort of nonsense that reeally annoys me about the royals.
We aren't allowed to touch them?
Why not?
FWIW, when asked, they said it was fine.
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Kmac84
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #38 on:
December 18, 2014, 06:10:35 PM »
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 18, 2014, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: Doobs on December 18, 2014, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 18, 2014, 04:52:06 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 04:43:53 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on December 18, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
I was offended Kmac. Horrible suggestion.
Wind yer neck in.
There are far more extreme ways to get rid of them.
Entitlement by birth right is so wrong on many levels and it is no wonder the country is in the shit when we prop this lot up with handout after handout, then add to that all their elitis friends who wouldn't know a hard days graft if it bit them in the arse, all the while pensioners are struggling to eat and heat their homes through no fault of their own other than corporate greed. The disabled and unemployed are scapegoated and struck by austerity measures
whilst that twat William makes a profession out of being unemployed.
To be fair,
he does have a full time job as an air ambulance pilot at Cambridge airport
. From what I can tell he gets some decent holiday entitlement.
Correct.
The salary is
circa
£40,000, which he donates to the Air Ambulance Charity.
Doesn't he start next spring?
Quite possibly, I just know it was made known earlier this year. The point is the same, of course.
It's not really though is it? He pays no tax/NI at the moment gets loads of jolly's at the expense of ordinary working men and woman and yet makes some shit gesture like 40k a year to charity. Why not pass up the 1.5 mill refurb give that to charity and use the 40k to do up his free house.
40k would barely do the kitchen up in his house to be fair, it's pretty big.
Well get a house you can afford to buy/rennovate.
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DaveShoelace
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #39 on:
December 18, 2014, 06:12:47 PM »
Quote from: Marky147 on December 18, 2014, 06:08:52 PM
Quote from: The Camel on December 18, 2014, 06:07:09 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/lebron-royal-protocol-arm-kate_n_6301382.html
This is the sort of nonsense that reeally annoys me about the royals.
We aren't allowed to touch them?
Why not?
FWIW, when asked, they said it was fine.
I think this is the sort of thing that isn't really a thing anymore, but newspapers use it to manufacture a story on slow days. Diana was very tactile, and it seems like Wills & Kate are much the same.
I must admit though, I have nothing against the Royals, think they are good for the economy and personally don't envy them being born into the limelight....however even though I'm probably more pro royal than against, I don't think I would bow or call them your magesty if I met them. Just does not sit right with me.
Robbie Coltrane refused to bow to the Queen at some fancy do once.
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #40 on:
December 18, 2014, 06:14:07 PM »
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 06:10:35 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 18, 2014, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: Doobs on December 18, 2014, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 18, 2014, 04:52:06 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 04:43:53 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on December 18, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
I was offended Kmac. Horrible suggestion.
Wind yer neck in.
There are far more extreme ways to get rid of them.
Entitlement by birth right is so wrong on many levels and it is no wonder the country is in the shit when we prop this lot up with handout after handout, then add to that all their elitis friends who wouldn't know a hard days graft if it bit them in the arse, all the while pensioners are struggling to eat and heat their homes through no fault of their own other than corporate greed. The disabled and unemployed are scapegoated and struck by austerity measures
whilst that twat William makes a profession out of being unemployed.
To be fair,
he does have a full time job as an air ambulance pilot at Cambridge airport
. From what I can tell he gets some decent holiday entitlement.
Correct.
The salary is
circa
£40,000, which he donates to the Air Ambulance Charity.
Doesn't he start next spring?
Quite possibly, I just know it was made known earlier this year. The point is the same, of course.
It's not really though is it? He pays no tax/NI at the moment gets loads of jolly's at the expense of ordinary working men and woman and yet makes some shit gesture like 40k a year to charity. Why not pass up the 1.5 mill refurb give that to charity and use the 40k to do up his free house.
40k would barely do the kitchen up in his house to be fair, it's pretty big.
Well get a house you can afford to buy/rennovate.
Being as they are from London they would probably need that 1.5 million then, its pretty hard for a young couple with a kid to get on the property ladder. Or they could get a council house I suppose.
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Kmac84
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #41 on:
December 18, 2014, 06:17:16 PM »
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 06:14:07 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 06:10:35 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 06:01:02 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 18, 2014, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: Doobs on December 18, 2014, 05:17:53 PM
Quote from: tikay on December 18, 2014, 04:52:06 PM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 04:43:53 PM
Quote from: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: rfgqqabc on December 18, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
I was offended Kmac. Horrible suggestion.
Wind yer neck in.
There are far more extreme ways to get rid of them.
Entitlement by birth right is so wrong on many levels and it is no wonder the country is in the shit when we prop this lot up with handout after handout, then add to that all their elitis friends who wouldn't know a hard days graft if it bit them in the arse, all the while pensioners are struggling to eat and heat their homes through no fault of their own other than corporate greed. The disabled and unemployed are scapegoated and struck by austerity measures
whilst that twat William makes a profession out of being unemployed.
To be fair,
he does have a full time job as an air ambulance pilot at Cambridge airport
. From what I can tell he gets some decent holiday entitlement.
Correct.
The salary is
circa
£40,000, which he donates to the Air Ambulance Charity.
Doesn't he start next spring?
Quite possibly, I just know it was made known earlier this year. The point is the same, of course.
It's not really though is it? He pays no tax/NI at the moment gets loads of jolly's at the expense of ordinary working men and woman and yet makes some shit gesture like 40k a year to charity. Why not pass up the 1.5 mill refurb give that to charity and use the 40k to do up his free house.
40k would barely do the kitchen up in his house to be fair, it's pretty big.
Well get a house you can afford to buy/rennovate.
Being as they are from London they would probably need that 1.5 million then, its pretty hard for a young couple with a kid to get on the property ladder. Or they could get a council house I suppose.
Or they could both get paying jobs, save some dough and get a mortgage. Instead of sponging off the rest of us.
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The Camel
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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Reply #42 on:
December 18, 2014, 06:17:35 PM »
Quote from: DaveShoelace on December 18, 2014, 06:12:47 PM
Quote from: Marky147 on December 18, 2014, 06:08:52 PM
Quote from: The Camel on December 18, 2014, 06:07:09 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/lebron-royal-protocol-arm-kate_n_6301382.html
This is the sort of nonsense that reeally annoys me about the royals.
We aren't allowed to touch them?
Why not?
FWIW, when asked, they said it was fine.
I think this is the sort of thing that isn't really a thing anymore, but newspapers use it to manufacture a story on slow days. Diana was very tactile, and it seems like Wills & Kate are much the same.
I must admit though, I have nothing against the Royals, think they are good for the economy and personally don't envy them being born into the limelight....however even though I'm probably more pro royal than against, I don't think I would bow or call them your magesty if I met them. Just does not sit right with me.
Robbie Coltrane refused to bow to the Queen at some fancy do once.
William seems like a decent bloke, but I'm a million to one to bow if I ever meet him.
There's only one member of royalty I'd consider bowing to:
Sir Les Ferdinand.
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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December 18, 2014, 06:23:04 PM »
kmac just google the civil list, royal family costs and benefits etc etc
you really do have a one eyed approach that diminishes any point you make on this matter
"The monarchy costs 69p a year for every person in Britain, or £1.33 per taxpayer. In return, besides the Crown Estate profits, there is the unquantifiable, but enormous, tourist revenue it generates."
was one quote, for example, from
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/7850335/The-Royal-family-is-a-bargain-for-Britain.html
net net the royal family costs the taxpayer nothing, and generates cash that is spent in other areas
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Re: Queen to Abdicate?
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December 18, 2014, 06:25:44 PM »
Quote from: TightEnd on December 18, 2014, 06:23:04 PM
kmac just google the civil list, royal family costs and benefits etc etc
you really do have a one eyed approach that diminishes any point you make on this matter
"The monarchy costs 69p a year for every person in Britain, or £1.33 per taxpayer. In return, besides the Crown Estate profits, there is the unquantifiable, but enormous, tourist revenue it generates."
was one quote, for example, from
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/7850335/The-Royal-family-is-a-bargain-for-Britain.html
net net the royal family costs the taxpayer nothing, and generates cash that is spent in other areas
Must be true then because the Civil Service is most impartial.
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