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« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2015, 06:17:07 PM »

Life isn't fair.

Who knows if this fella deserves his success, but I do know that a high % of people who are rich and successful have achieved it by sheer luck not by talent, skill or hard work.

I know some of the most successful gamblers in the UK but there is only person who if he gives me something he fancies I will back it blind without looking at the market myself.

And this guy who I rate the shrewdest gambler I know is pretty much completely flat broke.

People massively overrate talent and totally underrate variance IMO.

How do you know this ?.. your usual social circle is the self made businessman ?... I know many self made guys and everyone of them is intelligent,shrewd with an overwhelming work ethic.. there are a few wedged up who just happen to be good at one particular thing and are as thick and ignorant as a brick wall with the personality to go with it.. but these are the exception
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« Reply #46 on: January 31, 2015, 12:43:25 AM »

Life isn't fair.

Who knows if this fella deserves his success, but I do know that a high % of people who are rich and successful have achieved it by sheer luck not by talent, skill or hard work.

I know some of the most successful gamblers in the UK but there is only person who if he gives me something he fancies I will back it blind without looking at the market myself.

And this guy who I rate the shrewdest gambler I know is pretty much completely flat broke.

People massively overrate talent and totally underrate variance IMO.

How do you know this ?.. your usual social circle is the self made businessman ?... I know many self made guys and everyone of them is intelligent,shrewd with an overwhelming work ethic.. there are a few wedged up who just happen to be good at one particular thing and are as thick and ignorant as a brick wall with the personality to go with it.. but these are the exception

Spot on, biggest load of horse poop I've heard on here in a while.
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« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2015, 01:10:07 AM »

Life isn't fair.

Who knows if this fella deserves his success, but I do know that a high % of people who are rich and successful have achieved it by sheer luck not by talent, skill or hard work.

I know some of the most successful gamblers in the UK but there is only person who if he gives me something he fancies I will back it blind without looking at the market myself.

And this guy who I rate the shrewdest gambler I know is pretty much completely flat broke.

People massively overrate talent and totally underrate variance IMO.

How do you know this ?.. your usual social circle is the self made businessman ?... I know many self made guys and everyone of them is intelligent,shrewd with an overwhelming work ethic.. there are a few wedged up who just happen to be good at one particular thing and are as thick and ignorant as a brick wall with the personality to go with it.. but these are the exception

Spot on, biggest load of horse poop I've heard on here in a while.

Try reading "Fooled by Randomness" by Nicholas Nassib Taleb.

It was revelatory experience for me.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fooled-Randomness-Hidden-Chance-Markets/dp/0141031484/ref=pd_sim_b_8?ie=UTF8&refRID=00HEJACM6VW0VCK7WXEJ
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« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2015, 01:31:42 AM »

Life isn't fair.

Who knows if this fella deserves his success, but I do know that a high % of people who are rich and successful have achieved it by sheer luck not by talent, skill or hard work.

I know some of the most successful gamblers in the UK but there is only person who if he gives me something he fancies I will back it blind without looking at the market myself.

And this guy who I rate the shrewdest gambler I know is pretty much completely flat broke.

People massively overrate talent and totally underrate variance IMO.

How do you know this ?.. your usual social circle is the self made businessman ?... I know many self made guys and everyone of them is intelligent,shrewd with an overwhelming work ethic.. there are a few wedged up who just happen to be good at one particular thing and are as thick and ignorant as a brick wall with the personality to go with it.. but these are the exception

Spot on, biggest load of horse poop I've heard on here in a while.

Try reading "Fooled by Randomness" by Nicholas Nassib Taleb.

It was revelatory experience for me.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fooled-Randomness-Hidden-Chance-Markets/dp/0141031484/ref=pd_sim_b_8?ie=UTF8&refRID=00HEJACM6VW0VCK7WXEJ

Did it help you become rich and successful ?
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« Reply #49 on: January 31, 2015, 01:33:25 AM »

Life isn't fair.

Who knows if this fella deserves his success, but I do know that a high % of people who are rich and successful have achieved it by sheer luck not by talent, skill or hard work.

I know some of the most successful gamblers in the UK but there is only person who if he gives me something he fancies I will back it blind without looking at the market myself.

And this guy who I rate the shrewdest gambler I know is pretty much completely flat broke.

People massively overrate talent and totally underrate variance IMO.

How do you know this ?.. your usual social circle is the self made businessman ?... I know many self made guys and everyone of them is intelligent,shrewd with an overwhelming work ethic.. there are a few wedged up who just happen to be good at one particular thing and are as thick and ignorant as a brick wall with the personality to go with it.. but these are the exception

Spot on, biggest load of horse poop I've heard on here in a while.

Try reading "Fooled by Randomness" by Nicholas Nassib Taleb.

It was revelatory experience for me.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fooled-Randomness-Hidden-Chance-Markets/dp/0141031484/ref=pd_sim_b_8?ie=UTF8&refRID=00HEJACM6VW0VCK7WXEJ

Did it help you become rich and successful ?

No.

But explained why I'm not Smiley

Seriously, it is one of the finest books I've ever read. Well worth reading.
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« Reply #50 on: January 31, 2015, 01:48:22 PM »

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Arbboy - Yes
Camel - Yes
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« Reply #51 on: January 31, 2015, 02:52:57 PM »

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Arbboy - Yes
Camel - Yes


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« Reply #52 on: January 31, 2015, 02:56:27 PM »

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Arbboy - Yes
Camel - Yes


Absolutely not jealous. I would never waste my money on a car like that.

The only people I'm jealous of are people who posess a skill or talent I wish I had.
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« Reply #53 on: January 31, 2015, 02:58:01 PM »

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Arbboy - Yes
Camel - Yes


Absolutely not jealous. I would never waste my money on a car like that.

The only people I'm jealous of are people who posess a skill or talent I wish I had.

How about if that talent was being lucky getting successful?
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« Reply #54 on: January 31, 2015, 03:04:24 PM »

Life isn't fair.

Who knows if this fella deserves his success, but I do know that a high % of people who are rich and successful have achieved it by sheer luck not by talent, skill or hard work.

I know some of the most successful gamblers in the UK but there is only person who if he gives me something he fancies I will back it blind without looking at the market myself.

And this guy who I rate the shrewdest gambler I know is pretty much completely flat broke.

People massively overrate talent and totally underrate variance IMO.

How do you know this ?.. your usual social circle is the self made businessman ?... I know many self made guys and everyone of them is intelligent,shrewd with an overwhelming work ethic.. there are a few wedged up who just happen to be good at one particular thing and are as thick and ignorant as a brick wall with the personality to go with it.. but these are the exception

Spot on, biggest load of horse poop I've heard on here in a while.

Try reading "Fooled by Randomness" by Nicholas Nassib Taleb.

It was revelatory experience for me.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fooled-Randomness-Hidden-Chance-Markets/dp/0141031484/ref=pd_sim_b_8?ie=UTF8&refRID=00HEJACM6VW0VCK7WXEJ

Looks a good read, just ordered the Kindle version.  Thanks for the recommendation.
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« Reply #55 on: January 31, 2015, 03:07:18 PM »

Cliffs:

Arbboy - Yes
Camel - Yes


Absolutely not jealous. I would never waste my money on a car like that.

The only people I'm jealous of are people who posess a skill or talent I wish I had.

How about if that talent was being lucky getting successful?

I don't think you can have a talent for getting lucky.

Although the careers of certain poker players might well prove me wrong.
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« Reply #56 on: January 31, 2015, 03:09:27 PM »

Life isn't fair.

Who knows if this fella deserves his success, but I do know that a high % of people who are rich and successful have achieved it by sheer luck not by talent, skill or hard work.

I know some of the most successful gamblers in the UK but there is only person who if he gives me something he fancies I will back it blind without looking at the market myself.

And this guy who I rate the shrewdest gambler I know is pretty much completely flat broke.

People massively overrate talent and totally underrate variance IMO.

How do you know this ?.. your usual social circle is the self made businessman ?... I know many self made guys and everyone of them is intelligent,shrewd with an overwhelming work ethic.. there are a few wedged up who just happen to be good at one particular thing and are as thick and ignorant as a brick wall with the personality to go with it.. but these are the exception

Spot on, biggest load of horse poop I've heard on here in a while.

Try reading "Fooled by Randomness" by Nicholas Nassib Taleb.

It was revelatory experience for me.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fooled-Randomness-Hidden-Chance-Markets/dp/0141031484/ref=pd_sim_b_8?ie=UTF8&refRID=00HEJACM6VW0VCK7WXEJ

Looks a good read, just ordered the Kindle version.  Thanks for the recommendation.

This is an excellent read imo: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irrationality-Stuart-Sutherland/dp/1905177070
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« Reply #57 on: January 31, 2015, 03:16:58 PM »

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Arbboy - Yes
Camel - Yes


Absolutely not jealous. I would never waste my money on a car like that.

The only people I'm jealous of are people who posess a skill or talent I wish I had.

Same.  I shouldn't bite but i will!  Anyone that knows me knows i couldn't give a toss about cars.  My car is probably worth less than the smallest bet i had last week and is so beaten up it literally has no resale value.  If i won the lottery tomorrow i would be amazed if i spent more than £10k on a car.
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« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2015, 05:39:52 PM »

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Arbboy - Yes
Camel - Yes


Absolutely not jealous. I would never waste my money on a car like that.

The only people I'm jealous of are people who posess a skill or talent I wish I had.

How about if that talent was being lucky getting successful?

I don't think you can have a talent for getting lucky.

Although the careers of certain poker players might well prove me wrong.

Check out the work of Dr Richard Wiseman..

http://www.richardwiseman.com/resources/The_Luck_Factor.pdf
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« Reply #59 on: January 31, 2015, 05:54:42 PM »

Cliffs:

Arbboy - Yes
Camel - Yes


Absolutely not jealous. I would never waste my money on a car like that.

The only people I'm jealous of are people who posess a skill or talent I wish I had.

How about if that talent was being lucky getting successful?

I don't think you can have a talent for getting lucky.

Although the careers of certain poker players might well prove me wrong.

Check out the work of Dr Richard Wiseman..

http://www.richardwiseman.com/resources/The_Luck_Factor.pdf

Good call, he's very good.  Read a few of his books.

I don't know if someone has mentioned it already, but it's sometimes the case of "the harder I work, the luckier I get."  However, anyone who doesn't recognise the way chance shapes our lives and how lucky people are to be born in the right country, at the right time, to make it to adulthood avoiding premature death, having the talent and the opportunity they were born with, and then getting the rub of the green when they need it - is deluded.

I know how lucky I am.
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