WSOP -- 1st Hand

[EvilPie]

Anyone folding AA in this spot ?

I was thinking about this the other day but not if I would do it. Personally I would have to instacall with AA or KK in any tournament even the ME.

I was thinking more about what Phil Hellmuth would do in this situation. I've seen him make some huge lay downs because he's so confident of his ability to play well over the 7 days and pick better spots once he knows everyone's games.

Even with AA I think Hellmuth would lay this down but it's because he doesn't need the early double up. Even if he's 80% favourite I think he wouldn't risk that 20% chance of someone hitting just for another 20k in a tournament with a zillion chips in play.

Anyone agree or am I talking shite??

[Horneris]

Anyone folding AA in this spot ?

I was thinking about this the other day but not if I would do it. Personally I would have to instacall with AA or KK in any tournament even the ME.

I was thinking more about what Phil Hellmuth would do in this situation. I've seen him make some huge lay downs because he's so confident of his ability to play well over the 7 days and pick better spots once he knows everyone's games.

Even with AA I think Hellmuth would lay this down but it's because he doesn't need the early double up. Even if he's 80% favourite I think he wouldn't risk that 20% chance of someone hitting just for another 20k in a tournament with a zillion chips in play.

Anyone agree or am I talking shite??

You are talking shite mate, i would bet my entire life that Hellmuth would snap it so hard with Aces v 1 player, whenever in the tourn.

[Sunday8pm]

call,lose,brothel

fyp

why waste the same on a lapdance when you can get your end away?

A great post, fixed to an even better post.

[Sunday8pm]

Anyone folding AA in this spot ?

I was thinking about this the other day but not if I would do it. Personally I would have to instacall with AA or KK in any tournament even the ME.

I was thinking more about what Phil Hellmuth would do in this situation. I've seen him make some huge lay downs because he's so confident of his ability to play well over the 7 days and pick better spots once he knows everyone's games.

Even with AA I think Hellmuth would lay this down but it's because he doesn't need the early double up. Even if he's 80% favourite I think he wouldn't risk that 20% chance of someone hitting just for another 20k in a tournament with a zillion chips in play.

Anyone agree or am I talking shite??

You are talking shite mate, i would bet my entire life that Hellmuth would snap it so hard with Aces v 1 player, whenever in the tourn.

Horneris is wrong. He would double pike backward flip fist pump, and then call so hard.

[AlexMartin]

call,lose,brothel

fyp

why waste the same on a lapdance when you can get your end away?

A great post, fixed to an even better post.

claimer delivers

[Solver]

I'm folding the KK first had vs 1.

All those people who said they would call answered their own question when they said "why would anyone with aces push in that position".  The only hand I'm pushing pre with that early is Aces.

With regards the AA thing I'm pretty sure I've see hellmuth say he would call.  There was a video on Gutshot a few years back where they asked all the pro's what they would do with the AA and I think it was 6 pushes before 1st hand of ME.

They all par one (Mike the mouth I think) said they would call even though they know they are not favourite.  Their justification was if they call the volume of chips if it holds up would allow them to play the rest of the tournament to the best of their ability and have much better chance of going deep.

[TheChipPrince]

Virtually everyone since i bumped this yesterday says call, but the poll is still going up equally... umm... Silent nits...

[bolt pp]

Virtually everyone since i bumped this yesterday says call, but the poll is still going up equally... umm... Silent nits...

not everyone, the same people keep repeating themselfs

easy fold, next

[Royal Flush]

If there's been no action and all in i'm not sure i can fold here although id spew when i called and he showes aces.Expect for dingdells post about her all in play which i accept for her reasoning imo anyone who makes this type of play i.e pushing all in for 20+bb in early levels is blatantly just a donk it is one of the worst plays in poker imo.I'm going to vote call as i believe that is the correct play however if i was in the situation i believe i wouldnt have it in me to make the call and would probably bottle it

I like this thought about it being a donk play.

If you truely believe this, then why would you call and give the donk a chance to get lucky?

Wouldnt it be better to outplay him ?

As for me, Im folding.

Also with the AA scenario  (7 all ins) - im defo folding that one.

lolz at imaginary 300% edge on the field

[EvilPie]

Anyone folding AA in this spot ?

I was thinking about this the other day but not if I would do it. Personally I would have to instacall with AA or KK in any tournament even the ME.

I was thinking more about what Phil Hellmuth would do in this situation. I've seen him make some huge lay downs because he's so confident of his ability to play well over the 7 days and pick better spots once he knows everyone's games.

Even with AA I think Hellmuth would lay this down but it's because he doesn't need the early double up. Even if he's 80% favourite I think he wouldn't risk that 20% chance of someone hitting just for another 20k in a tournament with a zillion chips in play.

Anyone agree or am I talking shite??

You are talking shite mate, i would bet my entire life that Hellmuth would snap it so hard with Aces v 1 player, whenever in the tourn.

Horneris is wrong. He would double pike backward flip fist pump, and then call so hard.

I really must stop posting when I come in from the pub. No good ever comes of it 

Thanks for putting me in my place 

[DUNK619]

call,lose,brothel

fyp

why waste the same on a lapdance when you can get your end away?

  ldo i feel so stupid now thx 4 the correction

[LOJ]

KK goes in the bin.  Thats only cos Im scared money!  Might even turn my hand over before I decide to get a reaction out of him, heard u can do that these days.....

AA, OOOO tough one but I think I would call that one...

[AlexMartin]

KK goes in the bin.  Thats only cos Im scared money!  Might even turn my hand over before I decide to get a reaction out of him, heard u can do that these days.....

AA, OOOO tough one but I think I would call that one...

have i played you in Walsall festival? You deffo were not scared money and im still suprised at all the folders.

[M3boy]

If there's been no action and all in i'm not sure i can fold here although id spew when i called and he showes aces.Expect for dingdells post about her all in play which i accept for her reasoning imo anyone who makes this type of play i.e pushing all in for 20+bb in early levels is blatantly just a donk it is one of the worst plays in poker imo.I'm going to vote call as i believe that is the correct play however if i was in the situation i believe i wouldnt have it in me to make the call and would probably bottle it

I like this thought about it being a donk play.

If you truely believe this, then why would you call and give the donk a chance to get lucky?

Wouldnt it be better to outplay him ?

As for me, Im folding.

Also with the AA scenario  (7 all ins) - im defo folding that one.

lolz at imaginary 300% edge on the field

Where do you get 300% edge on the field?

The AA debate has been discussed to death already btw

[AlexMartin]

If there's been no action and all in i'm not sure i can fold here although id spew when i called and he showes aces.Expect for dingdells post about her all in play which i accept for her reasoning imo anyone who makes this type of play i.e pushing all in for 20+bb in early levels is blatantly just a donk it is one of the worst plays in poker imo.I'm going to vote call as i believe that is the correct play however if i was in the situation i believe i wouldnt have it in me to make the call and would probably bottle it

I like this thought about it being a donk play.

If you truely believe this, then why would you call and give the donk a chance to get lucky?

Wouldnt it be better to outplay him ?

As for me, Im folding.

Also with the AA scenario  (7 all ins) - im defo folding that one.

lolz at imaginary 300% edge on the field

Where do you get 300% edge on the field?

The AA debate has been discussed to death already btw

Stanleys Luton?