The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[redsimon]

Due to a lack of trade negotiators, Brexit Britain will need to hire immigrants for the job.

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Presume they will deport them once we reach trade deals?

[TightEnd]

"We've modelled the referendum results onto constituencies and it's not good news for Labour."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisapplegate/why-a-pro-eu-party-could-be-screwed-in-the-next-election?utm_term=.gj8brEaEb#.vkQ6XQzQ6

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[Woodsey]

Due to a lack of trade negotiators, Brexit Britain will need to hire immigrants for the job.

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Skilled being the key word 

[nirvana]

Due to a lack of trade negotiators, Brexit Britain will need to hire immigrants for the job.

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That's really funny if true

[RED-DOG]

I'll tell you what I don't understand.

How did the polls get it so wrong and in the light of that how can we know that the majority of leave voters were old?

[MahoganyVic]

Farage steps down.   Is there anyone who campaigned for this mess actually going to try and deal with the consequences?

[TightEnd]

I'll tell you what I don't understand.

How did the polls get it so wrong and in the light of that how can we know that the majority of leave voters were old?

the polls didn't get it so wrong (some got it right)

i wrote the following elsewhere last week.....

"Brexit polling was all over the place. In particular, there was a divide between polls conducted over the telephone and online. As it turned out the online polls in this referendum were the only piece of information informing the world of the correct risk of a Brexit throughout the campaign. The online polls showed the race very close within a margin of error either side of 50/50, with a slight advantage for the Leave campaign. Throughout the campaign the telephone polls showed Remain comfortably ahead before showing an average 2.7% Remain lead over the final four weeks. The online polls showed Leave ahead more often than Remain, with an average lead for Leave of 1.8% over the same period. In total over the campaign period, 78% of the telephone polls showed a Remain lead, whilst 63% of the online polls showed Leave ahead"

"Seven polling companies issued ‘final’ polls of voting intentions in the EU referendum. While no company forecast the eventual result exactly, in three cases the result was within the poll’s margin of error of +/- 3%. In one case Leave were correctly estimated to be ahead. In the four remaining cases, however, support for Remain was clearly overestimated. This is obviously a disappointing result for the pollsters because every single poll, even those within sampling error, overstated the Remain vote share."

[redsimon]

Farage steps down.   Is there anyone who campaigned for this mess actually going to try and deal with the consequences?

Will he un-resign by end of week?

[redsimon]

"We've modelled the referendum results onto constituencies and it's not good news for Labour."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisapplegate/why-a-pro-eu-party-could-be-screwed-in-the-next-election?utm_term=.gj8brEaEb#.vkQ6XQzQ6

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Only if the referendum results cross over to Party support? If Labour go into 2020 Election as not in favour of rejoining EU (we will be out by then?) will this stuff mean anything?

[TightEnd]

Farage steps down.   Is there anyone who campaigned for this mess actually going to try and deal with the consequences?

well Farage was never going to have to deal with the consequences. not an MP and not in a position to influence it. which is why he could promise more than other leave politicians and be very populist safe in the knowledge that other politicans would get it in the neck for breaking his promises

[TightEnd]

"We've modelled the referendum results onto constituencies and it's not good news for Labour."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisapplegate/why-a-pro-eu-party-could-be-screwed-in-the-next-election?utm_term=.gj8brEaEb#.vkQ6XQzQ6

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Only if the referendum results cross over to Party support? If Labour go into 2020 Election as not in favour of rejoining EU (we will be out by then?) will this stuff mean anything?

its an interesting question

will artiicle 50 have been invoked?

what will labour party policy be (65% of labour voters were for remain we are told)?

who will be leader?

i think the analysis just tries to map what is known currently with 2015 constituency results and goes from there. whether it is relevant, no idea yet

[doubleup]

Due to a lack of trade negotiators, Brexit Britain will need to hire immigrants for the job.

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That's really funny if true

of course its true - Britain hasn't negotiated any trade agreements in decades, why in god's name would they be employing anyone with those skills.  It was also clearly stated to be an issue by the "experts" before the vote.

There is also the unpicking of EU related legislation, some have speculated that there simply aren't the skills to do that and then there is massive expansion of customs staff and the holding areas for customs inspection. 

All this extra bureaucracy and expense just to keep a few Poles out of the country.

[nirvana]

Due to a lack of trade negotiators, Brexit Britain will need to hire immigrants for the job.

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That's really funny if true

of course its true - Britain hasn't negotiated any trade agreements in decades, why in god's name would they be employing anyone with those skills.  It was also clearly stated to be an issue by the "experts" before the vote.

There is also the unpicking of EU related legislation, some have speculated that there simply aren't the skills to do that and then there is massive expansion of customs staff and the holding areas for customs inspection. 

All this extra bureaucracy and expense just to keep a few Poles out of the country.

God for jobs tho and as woodsey says, these will be people with skills that we want to attract..not them pesky poles you mention. Personally and probably across the country we need more peskies than trade negotiators

[doubleup]

God for jobs tho

completely and utterly non-productive jobs

[TightEnd]

Nigel Farage’s depature means Ukip can seize its post-referendum opportunity http://specc.ie/29iwdh3