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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #17445 on: May 26, 2019, 07:26:25 PM »


debate on betfair forum about theresa may resigning as leader.

The market is "When will Theresa May officially cease to be leader of the Conservative Party?"

June was matched at very low odds sub 1.1 and then the belief arose that she would remain leader (rather than just remain PM) until a successor was chosen.

The remainers say that the "resignation" is just symbolic to get the new leader process started.  Their other main evidence is lol wikipedia has the leaving dates and successors entry dates as the same.

On the other side May has given a specific date.  If she had just been symbolically resigning, why didn't she do that on Friday?  Cameron didn't give a date, he said I'm resigning and the new leader will be along in due course hopefully by the party conference.

The Cons party constitution doesn't say the leader stays on or there must be a leader - the LibDem one does, for example.  The cons party constitution states that the party chairman can stand in for the leader.

Any thoughts specifically why May has stated a date?  (The trump visit d-day stuff are PM duties and given that it's public knowledge that she is leaving, there can't really be any face saving you would think).  I suppose she might have picked the date hoping it would be confidential, but got bumped - plausible?

Any thoughts?

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« Reply #17446 on: May 26, 2019, 07:57:41 PM »

Votes have been counted in many London boroughs. They cannot submit until 10pm but the Lib Dems have done very well.
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« Reply #17447 on: May 26, 2019, 08:01:34 PM »

Votes have been counted in many London boroughs. They cannot submit until 10pm but the Lib Dems have done very well.

This isn’t surprising considering London voted to remain & I think is a labour area.

As for the Racist Party, I genuinely think they will be in low 30’s.
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« Reply #17448 on: May 26, 2019, 08:22:31 PM »

Do show me something Farage has done that’s racist! Sure, some of his tactics have been a little unpalatable but I wouldn’t go further than perhaps call it ‘extreme patriotism’.

See how he ditched UKIP when they allowed an actual racist (Yaxley-Lennon) into the fold? And didn’t he have a German wife? Or do you think he’s just racist to browns?

I hope you dont think everyone who votes for the brexit party is racist...
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« Reply #17449 on: May 26, 2019, 08:44:16 PM »

Do show me something Farage has done that’s racist! Sure, some of his tactics have been a little unpalatable but I wouldn’t go further than perhaps call it ‘extreme patriotism’.

See how he ditched UKIP when they allowed an actual racist (Yaxley-Lennon) into the fold? And didn’t he have a German wife? Or do you think he’s just racist to browns?

I hope you dont think everyone who votes for the brexit party is racist...

Farage holds the same views now, as he did when he was in UKIP. As the saying goes, not everyone who voted Brexit is racist, but all the racists voted Brexit.
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« Reply #17450 on: May 26, 2019, 08:59:38 PM »

Do show me something Farage has done that’s racist! Sure, some of his tactics have been a little unpalatable but I wouldn’t go further than perhaps call it ‘extreme patriotism’.

See how he ditched UKIP when they allowed an actual racist (Yaxley-Lennon) into the fold? And didn’t he have a German wife? Or do you think he’s just racist to browns?

I hope you dont think everyone who votes for the brexit party is racist...

Farage holds the same views now, as he did when he was in UKIP. As the saying goes, not everyone who voted Brexit is racist, but all the racists voted Brexit.

So that’s your logic for calling it the racist party then?

You do talk bollocks sometimes Aaron.
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« Reply #17451 on: May 26, 2019, 09:00:44 PM »

I've only taken an interest in politics since we've had the threads here, but I've always gotten the impression Farage's MO is more self interest, than racist.

A much shrewder, and sharper version of Boris.
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« Reply #17452 on: May 26, 2019, 09:20:05 PM »

Do show me something Farage has done that’s racist! Sure, some of his tactics have been a little unpalatable but I wouldn’t go further than perhaps call it ‘extreme patriotism’.

See how he ditched UKIP when they allowed an actual racist (Yaxley-Lennon) into the fold? And didn’t he have a German wife? Or do you think he’s just racist to browns?

I hope you dont think everyone who votes for the brexit party is racist...

Farage holds the same views now, as he did when he was in UKIP. As the saying goes, not everyone who voted Brexit is racist, but all the racists voted Brexit.

So that’s your logic for calling it the racist party then?

You do talk bollocks sometimes Aaron.

Who do you think most racists vote for?
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« Reply #17453 on: May 26, 2019, 09:22:07 PM »

Votes have been counted in many London boroughs. They cannot submit until 10pm but the Lib Dems have done very well.

This isn’t surprising considering London voted to remain & I think is a labour area.

As for the Racist Party, I genuinely think they will be in low 30’s.

You say low 30s as if it is a poor result
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« Reply #17454 on: May 26, 2019, 09:26:04 PM »

Do show me something Farage has done that’s racist!

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« Reply #17455 on: May 26, 2019, 09:26:41 PM »

Votes have been counted in many London boroughs. They cannot submit until 10pm but the Lib Dems have done very well.

This isn’t surprising considering London voted to remain & I think is a labour area.

As for the Racist Party, I genuinely think they will be in low 30’s.

You say low 30s as if it is a poor result

No. You are trying to interpret something. For a new party, low 30s is an amazing result. I do have a lot of inside info though, and I’m confident the racist party will be -35%.
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« Reply #17456 on: May 26, 2019, 09:34:02 PM »

Do show me something Farage has done that’s racist! Sure, some of his tactics have been a little unpalatable but I wouldn’t go further than perhaps call it ‘extreme patriotism’.

See how he ditched UKIP when they allowed an actual racist (Yaxley-Lennon) into the fold? And didn’t he have a German wife? Or do you think he’s just racist to browns?

I hope you dont think everyone who votes for the brexit party is racist...

Farage holds the same views now, as he did when he was in UKIP. As the saying goes, not everyone who voted Brexit is racist, but all the racists voted Brexit.


I really would like to see how brave a keyboard warrior like you would be in a room full of Brexiteers.
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« Reply #17457 on: May 26, 2019, 09:37:39 PM »



As someone wanting to control immigration I don't see that this is racist. Is that all you see? If so is it just because no one is white?
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« Reply #17458 on: May 26, 2019, 09:46:46 PM »



As someone wanting to control immigration I don't see that this is racist. Is that all you see? If so is it just because no one is white?

The picture has nothing to with Britain or Europe but it’s racist and it appeals to racists.
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« Reply #17459 on: May 26, 2019, 09:53:08 PM »



As someone wanting to control immigration I don't see that this is racist. Is that all you see? If so is it just because no one is white?

He used a picture of Syrian refugees knowing full well that they had no rights to come into the UK and it's not relevant. There is a reason they are not white, the picture is a symbol of the people that scare the exact demographic he wanted to influence.

I am pro controlling immigration but this was calculated to feed into the "swarm" and "plague" narrative that was in the press a lot at the time.
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