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« Reply #75 on: July 02, 2015, 06:21:43 PM »

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I have probably used over 30 betting accounts in other names than myself to place bets that my accounts would not be allowed, this is no different to what Brian Hastings did, and we all know I'm no fan of BH so I would have little to no desire to defend him.

I think this is completely different to what he did.

I work in the industry and have been on both sides of shadow accounts. Why is it different? It is still deception to get a bet that wouldn't necessarily be given if I knew who you were. Same as not sitting next to Hastings but happy to sit next to Hayes.

Yeah I mean I get the point and I don't have a reasonable or rational argument. Just fuck bookies is all Cheesy
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« Reply #76 on: July 02, 2015, 06:28:33 PM »

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I have probably used over 30 betting accounts in other names than myself to place bets that my accounts would not be allowed, this is no different to what Brian Hastings did, and we all know I'm no fan of BH so I would have little to no desire to defend him.

I think this is completely different to what he did.

I work in the industry and have been on both sides of shadow accounts. Why is it different? It is still deception to get a bet that wouldn't necessarily be given if I knew who you were. Same as not sitting next to Hastings but happy to sit next to Hayes.

Yeah I mean I get the point and I don't have a reasonable or rational argument. Just fuck bookies is all Cheesy

Do bookies formally ban many?  They normally give me refer to trader messages and cut down stakes, but never tell me I am actually banned. 
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« Reply #77 on: July 02, 2015, 06:32:31 PM »

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I have probably used over 30 betting accounts in other names than myself to place bets that my accounts would not be allowed, this is no different to what Brian Hastings did, and we all know I'm no fan of BH so I would have little to no desire to defend him.

I think this is completely different to what he did.

I work in the industry and have been on both sides of shadow accounts. Why is it different? It is still deception to get a bet that wouldn't necessarily be given if I knew who you were. Same as not sitting next to Hastings but happy to sit next to Hayes.

Yeah I mean I get the point and I don't have a reasonable or rational argument. Just fuck bookies is all Cheesy

Do bookies formally ban many?  They normally give me refer to trader messages and cut down stakes, but never tell me I am actually banned.  

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Dear Mr Elder,
 
We are contacting you today to advise that a business decision has been taken by our Senior Traders and I must inform you that betting Account Number xxxxxxxx has now been closed and no further business may be executed on your behalf.
 
The total balance of the Account £x is currently in the process of being paid back to Card ending xxxx and can take 3-6 working days to reflect on your banking statement.
 
The balance of this Account now stands at zero.
 
As explained in our Terms and Conditions, a Traders decision is final and will not be over turned.
 
Please Note:  As there are currently various unsettled bets in the account these bets will stand and any potential return will be honoured and sent to you via your debit card ending xxxx. Note that if the returns of your bet are under £10.00, you may contact us and we will make the withdrawal for you.
 
Also that no bonuses will be payable on any previous activity on this account and any promotional balance in your account at the time of closure has been removed.
 
We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your past custom.
 
Kind Regards,
 
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I had 4 bets on horse races averaging £250 each lol
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« Reply #78 on: July 02, 2015, 06:41:25 PM »

Hills refer me to a trader then hold the price for 6 hours too. Bookies bring it on themselves and somewhat expect it, and don't ban it in T&Cs. Stars do, and players on their site have a reasonable expectation that people aren't MAing.
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« Reply #79 on: July 02, 2015, 06:41:36 PM »

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I have probably used over 30 betting accounts in other names than myself to place bets that my accounts would not be allowed, this is no different to what Brian Hastings did, and we all know I'm no fan of BH so I would have little to no desire to defend him.

I think this is completely different to what he did.

I work in the industry and have been on both sides of shadow accounts. Why is it different? It is still deception to get a bet that wouldn't necessarily be given if I knew who you were. Same as not sitting next to Hastings but happy to sit next to Hayes.

Yeah I mean I get the point and I don't have a reasonable or rational argument. Just fuck bookies is all Cheesy

Do bookies formally ban many?  They normally give me refer to trader messages and cut down stakes, but never tell me I am actually banned. 

Yes i have had VC, lolbrokes and several other firms accounts all formally closed/log in cut off by the firms and email sent saying bets will no longer by accepted of any stake and no phone bets accepted/wanted.  The vast majority just cut you to 1% but several have officially 100% closed accounts so you can't even log in and use the poker/casino which is quite stupid.  That is the main reason why 365/sky/paddy cut you to pennies but don't close you totally.
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« Reply #80 on: July 02, 2015, 07:19:33 PM »

Yeah VC are the worst. I have had 3 accounts closed, and all three have been closed after my FIRST BET lol! And each time before the race had even run! They said they would honour the bet each time though... and all three bets lost lol. The first one was sort of fair enough because I was naive and made a pretty big bet. But the other two my bets were both only £100. I bet from an ipad using 3G on the second two accounts so it is not like they were tracking my IP address or PC or anything and could tell it was the same person.
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« Reply #81 on: July 02, 2015, 07:31:57 PM »

Such a shame VC are the worst for shutting accounts down.

I think they have the best site by quite some distance, it is really well designed.
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« Reply #82 on: July 02, 2015, 09:47:07 PM »

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I have probably used over 30 betting accounts in other names than myself to place bets that my accounts would not be allowed, this is no different to what Brian Hastings did, and we all know I'm no fan of BH so I would have little to no desire to defend him.

I think this is completely different to what he did.

I work in the industry and have been on both sides of shadow accounts. Why is it different? It is still deception to get a bet that wouldn't necessarily be given if I knew who you were. Same as not sitting next to Hastings but happy to sit next to Hayes.

Yeah I mean I get the point and I don't have a reasonable or rational argument. Just fuck bookies is all Cheesy

I understand your argument haha.
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« Reply #83 on: July 03, 2015, 12:06:51 AM »

Why do we need to talk about those that aren't?  Why do you think those that aren't multi accounting are frankly poor at their jobs?

i dont think we should talk about them, I just think it would be quicker.

Every scoop/wcoop/HS game and even the regular old sunday million has so much MA'ing that there is little to no reason as far as I can tell to get wound up about it, im way more surprised BH told anyone it was him/got caught than the fact he was MA'ing.

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« Reply #84 on: July 09, 2015, 07:05:51 PM »



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« Reply #85 on: July 09, 2015, 07:08:59 PM »



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« Reply #86 on: July 09, 2015, 07:27:18 PM »

Yeah VC are the worst. I have had 3 accounts closed, and all three have been closed after my FIRST BET lol! And each time before the race had even run! They said they would honour the bet each time though... and all three bets lost lol. The first one was sort of fair enough because I was naive and made a pretty big bet. But the other two my bets were both only £100. I bet from an ipad using 3G on the second two accounts so it is not like they were tracking my IP address or PC or anything and could tell it was the same person.

Evil Pie's thread on here was brilliant.  His first time at sports betting, and he was struggling to get through the requirement to trigger his bonus.
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« Reply #87 on: July 09, 2015, 07:33:53 PM »

Yeah VC are the worst. I have had 3 accounts closed, and all three have been closed after my FIRST BET lol! And each time before the race had even run! They said they would honour the bet each time though... and all three bets lost lol. The first one was sort of fair enough because I was naive and made a pretty big bet. But the other two my bets were both only £100. I bet from an ipad using 3G on the second two accounts so it is not like they were tracking my IP address or PC or anything and could tell it was the same person.

Evil Pie's thread on here was brilliant.  His first time at sports betting, and he was struggling to get through the requirement to trigger his bonus.

He certainly managed to trigger mine 
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