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Topic: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman (Read 19482 times)
arbboy
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Re: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman
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Reply #60 on:
August 29, 2015, 10:11:30 PM »
Quote from: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 10:08:58 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:04:30 PM
Quote from: craigbetts on August 29, 2015, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: craigbetts on August 29, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
'I think linford is more clean than Mo is' apologies I can not quote on my tablet. But that is the most absurd line I have ever read, period. Whilst OP thinks about the quality of truth, whom did Linford beat and was Linford banned for any time? Some poor form being shown in this thread.
Who did Linford beat? Were you alive in 1992?
I am the same age as you Mr Wilson so you tell me who he beat. Yes I know.
Half the field he beat were drug cheats. More importantly who has mo beat? and in what time? 9.96 in 1992 was rapid.
But he failed a drugs test in 1988. Plus that time vs today suggest christie is a mo farah of 1992?
He might be but i don't have linford in my top 4 gb athletes of all time. My top 2 are 1/10000 to be drug free and both current world record holders who set their records between 10-25 years ago and they still stand by a country mile. That was my original argument.
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JohnCharver
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Re: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman
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Reply #61 on:
August 29, 2015, 10:16:55 PM »
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 10:08:58 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:04:30 PM
Quote from: craigbetts on August 29, 2015, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: craigbetts on August 29, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
'I think linford is more clean than Mo is' apologies I can not quote on my tablet. But that is the most absurd line I have ever read, period. Whilst OP thinks about the quality of truth, whom did Linford beat and was Linford banned for any time? Some poor form being shown in this thread.
Who did Linford beat? Were you alive in 1992?
I am the same age as you Mr Wilson so you tell me who he beat. Yes I know.
Half the field he beat were drug cheats. More importantly who has mo beat? and in what time? 9.96 in 1992 was rapid.
But he failed a drugs test in 1988. Plus that time vs today suggest christie is a mo farah of 1992?
He might be but i don't have linford in my top 4 gb athletes of all time. My top 2 are 1/10000 to be drug free. That was my original argument.
Mo was much better than edwards for championship performances and infinitely better than ratcliffe at champs.
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arbboy
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Re: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman
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Reply #62 on:
August 29, 2015, 10:17:23 PM »
Quote from: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 10:16:55 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 10:08:58 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:04:30 PM
Quote from: craigbetts on August 29, 2015, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: craigbetts on August 29, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
'I think linford is more clean than Mo is' apologies I can not quote on my tablet. But that is the most absurd line I have ever read, period. Whilst OP thinks about the quality of truth, whom did Linford beat and was Linford banned for any time? Some poor form being shown in this thread.
Who did Linford beat? Were you alive in 1992?
I am the same age as you Mr Wilson so you tell me who he beat. Yes I know.
Half the field he beat were drug cheats. More importantly who has mo beat? and in what time? 9.96 in 1992 was rapid.
But he failed a drugs test in 1988. Plus that time vs today suggest christie is a mo farah of 1992?
He might be but i don't have linford in my top 4 gb athletes of all time. My top 2 are 1/10000 to be drug free. That was my original argument.
Mo was much better than edwards for championship performances and infinitely better than ratcliffe at champs.
Who has he beat on the all time list? What records has he set? Anyone can trot home in their own time beating nobody's!
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Ironside
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Re: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman
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Reply #63 on:
August 29, 2015, 10:19:58 PM »
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:17:23 PM
Quote from: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 10:16:55 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 10:08:58 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:04:30 PM
Quote from: craigbetts on August 29, 2015, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: craigbetts on August 29, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
'I think linford is more clean than Mo is' apologies I can not quote on my tablet. But that is the most absurd line I have ever read, period. Whilst OP thinks about the quality of truth, whom did Linford beat and was Linford banned for any time? Some poor form being shown in this thread.
Who did Linford beat? Were you alive in 1992?
I am the same age as you Mr Wilson so you tell me who he beat. Yes I know.
Half the field he beat were drug cheats. More importantly who has mo beat? and in what time? 9.96 in 1992 was rapid.
But he failed a drugs test in 1988. Plus that time vs today suggest christie is a mo farah of 1992?
He might be but i don't have linford in my top 4 gb athletes of all time. My top 2 are 1/10000 to be drug free. That was my original argument.
Mo was much better than edwards for championship performances and infinitely better than ratcliffe at champs.
Who has he beat on the all time list? What records has he set? Anyone can trot home in their own time beating nobody's!
he can only beat whats put before him
and times mean nothing half the distance records for the past 3 decades were set by uncaught cheats
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JohnCharver
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Re: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman
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Reply #64 on:
August 29, 2015, 10:20:55 PM »
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:17:23 PM
Quote from: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 10:16:55 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 10:08:58 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:04:30 PM
Quote from: craigbetts on August 29, 2015, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: craigbetts on August 29, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
'I think linford is more clean than Mo is' apologies I can not quote on my tablet. But that is the most absurd line I have ever read, period. Whilst OP thinks about the quality of truth, whom did Linford beat and was Linford banned for any time? Some poor form being shown in this thread.
Who did Linford beat? Were you alive in 1992?
I am the same age as you Mr Wilson so you tell me who he beat. Yes I know.
Half the field he beat were drug cheats. More importantly who has mo beat? and in what time? 9.96 in 1992 was rapid.
But he failed a drugs test in 1988. Plus that time vs today suggest christie is a mo farah of 1992?
He might be but i don't have linford in my top 4 gb athletes of all time. My top 2 are 1/10000 to be drug free. That was my original argument.
Mo was much better than edwards for championship performances and infinitely better than ratcliffe at champs.
Who has he beat on the all time list? What records has he set? Anyone can trot home in their own time beating nobody's!
edwards couldnt beat me on a sunday
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arbboy
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Re: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman
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Reply #65 on:
August 29, 2015, 10:29:44 PM »
Quote from: Ironside on August 29, 2015, 10:19:58 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:17:23 PM
Quote from: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 10:16:55 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: JohnCharver on August 29, 2015, 10:08:58 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:04:30 PM
Quote from: craigbetts on August 29, 2015, 09:59:22 PM
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: craigbetts on August 29, 2015, 09:54:29 PM
'I think linford is more clean than Mo is' apologies I can not quote on my tablet. But that is the most absurd line I have ever read, period. Whilst OP thinks about the quality of truth, whom did Linford beat and was Linford banned for any time? Some poor form being shown in this thread.
Who did Linford beat? Were you alive in 1992?
I am the same age as you Mr Wilson so you tell me who he beat. Yes I know.
Half the field he beat were drug cheats. More importantly who has mo beat? and in what time? 9.96 in 1992 was rapid.
But he failed a drugs test in 1988. Plus that time vs today suggest christie is a mo farah of 1992?
He might be but i don't have linford in my top 4 gb athletes of all time. My top 2 are 1/10000 to be drug free. That was my original argument.
Mo was much better than edwards for championship performances and infinitely better than ratcliffe at champs.
Who has he beat on the all time list? What records has he set? Anyone can trot home in their own time beating nobody's!
he can only beat whats put before him
and times mean nothing half the distance records for the past 3 decades were set by uncaught cheats
Why doesn't cram tell us this then if its true? He loves barking about a drugs cheat? The fact mo is more intersted in winning 'easy' golds for $$$$$$ sponsorship wise than setting all time great times tells you exactly why he isn't even close to being GB's best ever athlete.
I don't knock him for it. It is his job and profession. He has 4 kids to feed.
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Re: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman
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August 29, 2015, 10:34:41 PM »
Quote from: bagel on August 29, 2015, 09:19:02 PM
anybody who can say mo farah is not in top five uk athletes of all time is completely deluded.
lock for top three.
not for me, not at all
a lot of recency bias on this thread. its just happened its fresh in our minds, we overvalue it
Daley Thompson
Sebastian Coe
Sally Gunnell
Jonathan Edwards
mary rand
david hemery
Rger Bannister
go back as far as Harold Abrahams as well
for athletes
Redgrave
Bobby Moore
Botham
Chris Hoy
Bradley Wiggins
matthew pinsent
for the title of the thread, and thats without pausing to think
all miles ahead of Farah to me who, by the standards of the event, is beating Kenyan statues.. the really good ones are earning zillions running the city marathons
Farah is obviously brilliant, but top three all time? not even close
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Re: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman
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Reply #67 on:
August 29, 2015, 10:37:38 PM »
Quote from: TightEnd on August 29, 2015, 10:34:41 PM
Quote from: bagel on August 29, 2015, 09:19:02 PM
anybody who can say mo farah is not in top five uk athletes of all time is completely deluded.
lock for top three.
not for me, not at all
a lot of recency bias on this thread. its just happened its fresh in our minds, we overvalu
Daley Thompson
Sebastian Coe
Sally Gunnell
Jonathan Edwards
mary rand
david hemery
Rger Bannister
go back as far as Harold Abrahams as well
for athletes
Redgrave
Bobby Moore
Botham
Chris Hoy
Bradley Wiggins
matthew pinsent
for the title of the thread, and thats without pausing to think
all miles ahead of Farah to me who, by the standards of the event, is beating Kenyan statues.. the really good ones are earning zillions running the city marathons
Farah is obviously brilliant, but top three all time? not even close
couldnt agree more, just fancied trolling arbboy tbh.
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arbboy
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Re: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman
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August 29, 2015, 10:41:09 PM »
Quote from: bagel on August 29, 2015, 10:37:38 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on August 29, 2015, 10:34:41 PM
Quote from: bagel on August 29, 2015, 09:19:02 PM
anybody who can say mo farah is not in top five uk athletes of all time is completely deluded.
lock for top three.
not for me, not at all
a lot of recency bias on this thread. its just happened its fresh in our minds, we overvalu
Daley Thompson
Sebastian Coe
Sally Gunnell
Jonathan Edwards
mary rand
david hemery
Rger Bannister
go back as far as Harold Abrahams as well
for athletes
Redgrave
Bobby Moore
Botham
Chris Hoy
Bradley Wiggins
matthew pinsent
for the title of the thread, and thats without pausing to think
all miles ahead of Farah to me who, by the standards of the event, is beating Kenyan statues.. the really good ones are earning zillions running the city marathons
Farah is obviously brilliant, but top three all time? not even close
couldnt agree more, just fancied trolling arbboy tbh.
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzz hard to troll a troll!!!!
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samurai
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Re: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman
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August 29, 2015, 10:45:33 PM »
1988 wasn't the only drug test Linford failed. He failed another before he retired.
Agree with Arbboy that Mo isn't even in the top 5 athletes never mind sportspeople. Behind Coe, Daley, Edwards, Paula,, Jess maybe Cram and Ovett in their pomp. In terms of performance Fatima beats him. How she never got caught was a miracle. Her body change made Linfords look reasonable.
Honourable mentions to Sanderson, Black, Jackson, Jarret, Lewis, Redmond, Gunnell, RutherfordI and McColgan who in terms of times and distances achieved all compare with Mo despite his greater medal haul.
Be interested to know how many of that list doped!
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Re: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman
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Reply #70 on:
August 29, 2015, 10:45:46 PM »
Quote from: arbboy on August 29, 2015, 10:41:09 PM
Quote from: bagel on August 29, 2015, 10:37:38 PM
Quote from: TightEnd on August 29, 2015, 10:34:41 PM
Quote from: bagel on August 29, 2015, 09:19:02 PM
anybody who can say mo farah is not in top five uk athletes of all time is completely deluded.
lock for top three.
not for me, not at all
a lot of recency bias on this thread. its just happened its fresh in our minds, we overvalu
Daley Thompson
Sebastian Coe
Sally Gunnell
Jonathan Edwards
mary rand
david hemery
Rger Bannister
go back as far as Harold Abrahams as well
for athletes
Redgrave
Bobby Moore
Botham
Chris Hoy
Bradley Wiggins
matthew pinsent
for the title of the thread, and thats without pausing to think
all miles ahead of Farah to me who, by the standards of the event, is beating Kenyan statues.. the really good ones are earning zillions running the city marathons
Farah is obviously brilliant, but top three all time? not even close
couldnt agree more, just fancied trolling arbboy tbh.
lolzzzzzzzzzzzzz hard to troll a troll!!!!
To be fair. It wasn't hard at all
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Re: Greatest British Sports Man/Woman
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August 29, 2015, 10:51:41 PM »
Quote from: samurai on August 29, 2015, 10:45:33 PM
1988 wasn't the only drug test Linford failed. He failed another before he retired.
Agree with Arbboy that Mo isn't even in the top 5 athletes never mind sportspeople. Behind Coe, Daley, Edwards, Paula,, Jess maybe Cram and Ovett in their pomp. In terms of performance Fatima beats him. How she never got caught was a miracle. Her body change made Linfords look reasonable.
Honourable mentions to Sanderson, Black, Jackson, Jarret, Lewis, Redmond, Gunnell, RutherfordI and McColgan who in terms of times and distances achieved all compare with Mo despite his greater medal haul.
Be interested to know how many of that list doped!
A man with some proper knowledge of athletics. WP sir. You talk sense. Will excuse you Redmond if you mean Derek!!!!!!!
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August 29, 2015, 10:58:22 PM »
In terms of all time greats I think it's difficult to look past setting a world record and then it taking ages for someone else to beat it.
Colin Jackson's lasted 11 years. Daley Thompson's was 8 years. Seb Coe 16 years. Jonathan Edwards 20 years and counting. Paula Radcliffe's marathon record is at 12 years and there are those that think it may stand for 30 or 40 years, as it's so far ahead of what anyone else has done.
I know arbboy reckons Coe was dirty but certainly the others were 100% clean.
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August 29, 2015, 11:01:56 PM »
I still think Derek would have won gold in Barcelona but for his hamstring. Some great British 400m runners round then but he could've been the best. 44.5 was a great time then. Or now tbh
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August 29, 2015, 11:04:14 PM »
chris akabusi would of won more medals and broke some records if it wasnt for the laughing gas
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