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« Reply #105 on: September 04, 2015, 03:00:01 PM »

Is there actually anything we as individuals can do about this?

In terms of making an impact I'd say nothing (apart from voting with your feet). If a load of recs keep dropping out of the player pools then the sites will do something about it if they are smart.

FWIW, I am just arguing the other side of the coin. I have started much more thorough note taking in my games in case hud's get banished altogether.
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« Reply #106 on: September 04, 2015, 03:20:37 PM »

Think you've misunderstood what I'm getting at - is there anything the regs can do to encourage the recs to play?
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« Reply #107 on: September 04, 2015, 04:46:16 PM »

Online? Probably not.

Don't play against them I suppose and let them play against each other.
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« Reply #108 on: September 04, 2015, 05:21:49 PM »

Online? Probably not.

Don't play against them I suppose and let them play against each other.

That's a great idea.

HUD free tables or maybe anonymous tables where HUDs are meaningless.

Tables for players who have up to 10k hands of experience, up to 50k, up to 100k etc. Let these guys get there slowly and then face the monster of the pro infested arena where it's no holds barred.

Just level the field a bit is all it takes to keep people interested and provide the illusions that they might actually be good at the game.
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« Reply #109 on: September 04, 2015, 05:25:05 PM »

If a poker site ran anonymous tables I'd play a couple alongside my regular ones for sure, if the games ran.
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« Reply #110 on: September 04, 2015, 05:26:48 PM »

Actually the more I think about it the more I think that's a great idea, because people can still run Huds for review purposes etc, but stats on specific players could never correlate, so they'd be meaningless.
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« Reply #111 on: September 04, 2015, 05:28:48 PM »

Why can't all tables be anonymous?  Stops bum hunting, makes HUD's redundant, stops/limits collusion as it is totally random which table you are sat on compared to your 'team mates', keeps recs happy as they would think they have more of a chance against a random field and means proper pros will have to rely on their pure poker skills to make a living against random players who could be anyone.

Seems too obvious to me.  There is no advantage to a pure rec knowing the online names of people he is playing as he doesn't care.  There is a big advantage to a pro of knowing other regs/recs names.

There is no reason to know the online names of the people you are playing against for any other reason than to gain an advantage.  This advantage is always in the reg's favour.  Therefore to give a bit back to the rec's it might make more people play.  Who knows.  All the pro's keep saying they will beat rec's whatever because they are better (which is true) so what's not to like?
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« Reply #112 on: September 04, 2015, 05:34:38 PM »

Why do they all have to be? Keep everyone happy and have both :p
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« Reply #113 on: September 04, 2015, 05:36:00 PM »

Why do they all have to be? Keep everyone happy and have both :p

Fair point.
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« Reply #114 on: September 04, 2015, 05:39:06 PM »

Are bots more of a risk on anonymous tables?

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« Reply #115 on: September 04, 2015, 05:40:29 PM »

Are bots more of a risk on anonymous tables?



I have no idea.  Was just putting the idea out there.  There are a lot of positives imo.  Sure there will be some negatives as well but most of them will be moaning pros who have their edge reduced imo because they can't bum hunt any more.  Not saying all pros do this btw before i get lynched.
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« Reply #116 on: September 04, 2015, 05:43:05 PM »

Are bots more of a risk on anonymous tables?



I have no idea.  Was just putting the idea out there.  There are a lot of positives imo.  Sure there will be some negatives as well but most of them will be moaning pros who have their edge reduced imo because they can't bum hunt any more.  Not saying all pros do this btw before i get lynched.

Pretty sure that it'll be hard to find a legit reg (who actually works on their game) who thinks seating scripts are good in any way :p
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« Reply #117 on: September 04, 2015, 05:47:51 PM »

Are bots more of a risk on anonymous tables?



I have no idea.  Was just putting the idea out there.  There are a lot of positives imo.  Sure there will be some negatives as well but most of them will be moaning pros who have their edge reduced imo because they can't bum hunt any more.  Not saying all pros do this btw before i get lynched.

Who's idea?


HUD free tables or maybe anonymous tables where HUDs are meaningless.


No way you're getting the credit when this becomes the biggest thing since Facebook.
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« Reply #118 on: September 04, 2015, 05:48:50 PM »

hey matt, what do you play? mtts or cash? or what did you play?
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« Reply #119 on: September 04, 2015, 05:50:34 PM »

Are bots more of a risk on anonymous tables?



I have no idea.  Was just putting the idea out there.  There are a lot of positives imo.  Sure there will be some negatives as well but most of them will be moaning pros who have their edge reduced imo because they can't bum hunt any more.  Not saying all pros do this btw before i get lynched.

Who's idea?


HUD free tables or maybe anonymous tables where HUDs are meaningless.


No way you're getting the credit when this becomes the biggest thing since Facebook.


I put it out there months ago when i started a debate that all THE trades on betfair are anonymous (players have no idea who they are playing against every time they have a bet - it could be Tony Bloom or pissed up Dave down the pub) and i said there was no reason why online poker couldn't be the same and it might help level the playing field by reducing bum hunting/collusion/use of software etc being meaningless.

I don't want any credit!
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