Noisy Neighbours - the Man City thread

[Tal]

Ha you're only saying that because you're pretty much guaranteed top 3. Wouldn't be so much fun if you weren't

George, I've noticed you have used the term "citeh" on the prediction thread. Obviously, it is as a skit on the Manc accent and is now widely used. I was interested in the origins and apparently the  term 'Citeh' was first coined by the Football365 website about 15 years ago. The site was originally set up by a group of London-based football fans including the broadcaster and Spurs fan Danny Kelly.

As you support a Manchester team ( well, just outside Manchester...) I was wondering why you use such a derogatory term?

If this offends you imagine how Manchester United fans feel when referred to as m***re, or simply as s**m.

Up till fairly recently I had used this too, but hadn't seen it as being particularly offensive.
I use it in conversations with my card carrying City fan mate and he finds on issue with it, uses it himself in a jokey way when talking to me.

Doesn't it also distinguish it from other teams called City?

If you want people taking the mickey out of accents, have you seen Peaky Blinders?!

Never heard of Peaky Blinders. I'll make a note to take a look.

It's probably the first time on TV to any success that the brummie accent has been used without it being in a mocking or stupid way. Even then, there's a fair bit of overegging.

All-roit skeep!

[Archer]

I look forward to watching it with a nice Kipper Tie.

[Tal]

I look forward to watching it with a nice Kipper Tie.

Yowayayyer?

(The irony of this being on a football thread and me supporting a London club isn't lost on me, don't worry)

[George2Loose]

Wasn't anything intentional.

[david3103]

Well done to City last night.

The Manchester two showing them soft southerners how it's done.

Wish we'd bought de Bruyne...

[tikay]

de Bruyne looks one of those rare beasts - a real game-changer, the sort of individual that makes a real difference to a team. When he is on the ball, there's always the thought that he may do something special.

I lost a bit of interest in following the two Manchester Clubs last season, but Martial & de Bruyne have changed all that. 

[Archer]

Well done to City last night.

The Manchester two showing them soft southerners how it's done.

Wish we'd bought de Bruyne...

A City v United Champions League Final? That would be fun Not likely, I know.....

I've not seen any of the United highlights from last night yet. City were so open for the first hour of their game it was terrible. Yet, they still created some brilliant chances and Aguero (who is misfiring badly at the moment)  could easily have had a hat-trick in the 1st half alone in response to their clear cut chances as well. Last 30 minutes City were in total control.

[hhyftrftdr]

Not too shabby. Could've been a different story though.

Looking forward to seeing how lethal Aguero is when he's finally fully fit and injury free

Shame we have to suffer another international break now..........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[swinebag22]

Not too shabby. Could've been a different story though.

Looking forward to seeing how lethal Aguero is when he's finally fully fit and injury free

Shame we have to suffer another international break now..........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Was a stunning performance from Kun, but difficult to gauge if we are back on track as a team given how awful The Geordies were.

Sterling seems a bit lost atm. First touch is generally backwards and taking the safe option with passes. Took me 10 mins into second half to notice he'd been subbed at .

[hhyftrftdr]

Was having this debate with a couple of mates over lunch yesterday; how would the Arsenal 'Invincibles' fare in the PL in this day and age?

It's impossible for me to not be biased so would certainly appreciate some more objective views from fans of other clubs....

My opinion was that the game has advanced so much in the last 10/15 years. I'm really not sure that Arsenal team of '04 would win the title. They might come close, but I think the calibre of player plying their trade in the top flight has advanced a huge amount since then. Would you have a 2004 Pires or a 2015 Silva? A 2004 Campbell or a 2015 Kompany? Henry or Aguero? Vieria or Toure? Gilberto Silva or Fernandinho? Bergkamp or KDB? Lehmann or Hart?


I guess a combined XI would look something like this...

                 Hart

Zabaleta   Kompany Campbell Cole

        Vieria  Toure

Silva     Bergkamp   KDB

            Aguero

I'll probably get crucified for leaving out Henry but I can't see where he'd fit in!

We also discussed how the United treble winning squad of '99 would fare in 2015, I think they'd do even worse than the Arsenal 04 team. Again, a combined XI....

        Schmeichel

Zabaleta Kompany Stam Kolarov


Beckham  Toure Scholes  Giggs

             Silva

            Aguero

[TightEnd]

Adams and Henry have to play. Irwin and Keane in the other team. All a bit one eyed with recency bias on your behalf I am afraid

[TheDazzler]

Was having this debate with a couple of mates over lunch yesterday; how would the Arsenal 'Invincibles' fare in the PL in this day and age?

It's impossible for me to not be biased so would certainly appreciate some more objective views from fans of other clubs....

My opinion was that the game has advanced so much in the last 10/15 years. I'm really not sure that Arsenal team of '04 would win the title. They might come close, but I think the calibre of player plying their trade in the top flight has advanced a huge amount since then. Would you have a 2004 Pires or a 2015 Silva? A 2004 Campbell or a 2015 Kompany? Henry or Aguero? Vieria or Toure? Gilberto Silva or Fernandinho? Bergkamp or KDB? Lehmann or Hart?


I guess a combined XI would look something like this...

                 Hart

Zabaleta   Kompany Campbell Cole

        Vieria  Toure

Silva     Bergkamp   KDB

            Aguero

I'll probably get crucified for leaving out Henry but I can't see where he'd fit in!

We also discussed how the United treble winning squad of '99 would fare in 2015, I think they'd do even worse than the Arsenal 04 team. Again, a combined XI....

        Schmeichel

Zabaleta Kompany Stam Kolarov


Beckham  Toure Scholes  Giggs

             Silva

            Aguero

                (Hart)Lehmann

Zabaleta   KompanyAdams Campbell Cole

        Vieria  (Toure)Gilberto

Silva     Bergkamp   (KDB)Henry

            Aguero

Hart is not a particularly good keeper. Lehmann by default.
Adams over Kompany.
Toure 2015 isn't good enough. Still great going forward but his engine isn't there anymore. Gilberto.
You're over rating KDB. Great potential but a long way to go to beat Henry who fits snugly on the left.


        Schmeichel

ZabaletaNeville Kompany Stam KolarovIrwin


Beckham  ToureKeane Scholes  Giggs

             Silva

            Aguero

You're ripped apart here.
Neville + Irwin far better defenders.
And no Keane??? You're having a laugh!

[George2Loose]

Having KDB in the combined team already seems presumptio

And clear bias which obviously happens but personally I wouldn't have Toure in either team. Lazy and a luxury player altho admittedly one who can change games

The other problem with the comparison is that teams tended to play 4-4-2 not the 4-5-1 we tend to see these days

[BorntoBubble]

The Toure of 2015 is not great. Maybe a couple of years ago but he is so lazy now it's unbelievable.

Hard to leave Kompany out though.

In both examples though city are a worst team now though.

City at the moment are Aguero and Kompany an injury to either player and arsenal win the league this year imo

[mulhuzz]

Not hard to fit Henry in.

Literally pick any of the players you've picked and replace with Henry.

First name on team sheet. By miles.