Noisy Neighbours - the Man City thread

[mulhuzz]

You think Shearer earned more at Newcaslte than he would have at Man Utd?

I find that very hard to believe.

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Post Pellegrini it has to be Ancelotti, doesn't it? Or will they give Viera a crack? Led to believe he's well thought of with the u21s?

[hhyftrftdr]

Shearer's biggest mistake was not going to United. Kinda glad he didn't cos he's a cock

Why?

He valued playing for his hometown club, the shirt he'd dreamed of pulling on since being a boy.

He also knew he'd be the best player at Newcastle ever. He knew he'd break records and the fans would adore him.

Sometimes it's ok to be a big fish in a decently sized pond

Anyway, back to Man City - who is managing these merged teams and if the answers aren't SAF and Arsene I'll explode.

Stuart Pearce.

Not sure if:

A) he's taking the pens
B) a Newcastle player who makes the team, or
C) managing the teams!

Combo of all 3?

Little anecdote about Pearce. He finished his career at City, playing under King Kev in those swashbuckling years of the early 2000s. Last game of the season at home to Portsmouth at Maine Road, which is also SP's last ever game. We are something like 3 or 4-1 up, and win a penalty in the last minute. Now, we only need one more goal to beat the division record, and Pearce only needs one more goal for 100 career goals. So he steps up to take this penalty. Dave Beasant comes out of his goal, and whispers in his ear that he isn't going to move. Just stroke it in the corner Pearce, no? You know he ain't diving.....he puts his left foot through it and skies the fucker, no record broken for goals scored in division 1 and forever stuck on 99 career goals, wp gg Stuart Pearce.

The less said about his turgid reign in charge of City the better. 10 goals at home all season, and none from new years day onwards if memory serves me correctly, which is ironic as its a memory I've been trying to banish for years.

[hhyftrftdr]

You think Shearer earned more at Newcaslte than he would have at Man Utd?

I find that very hard to believe.

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Post Pellegrini it has to be Ancelotti, doesn't it? Or will they give Viera a crack? Led to believe he's well thought of with the u21s?

Paddy V is nailed on to manage us at some point in the future. Its just a question of when, though I think a lot of stuff hinges on whether Pellers is still there for next season. PV's rep is soaring at the club and he can do no wrong at the moment, but it would be a big step up if it happened within 2 years. Having him work under Guardiola for a few seasons would set him up nicely....

[George2Loose]

Also, on reflection, Shearer starts up top in both teams. Most Prem goals ever.

Because he would have some silverware to go with his talent. Probably a LOT of silverware. Could've played for his hometown club when he was shit like most do

I guarantee you he gives up 20 trophies at MUFC for one at NUFC. came close a couple of times but wasn't to be.

I don't think you'll understand my saying that without you being from north east, but it's true.

I guess only he can answer that question. Maybe you could've asked him that after getting smashed in two FA cup finals

[Karabiner]

How did you guys leave Pires out of any combined team?

[Archer]

Comparisons with 1999 and 2004 then? It is always very difficult comparing players from different eras but I agree with hyy in one thing in that the game has totally evolved since then. I’ll go off at tangent here and look back to 1999.

On the face of it the late stages of the 1999 season threw up some incredibly exciting moments  – a very tight PL race between Arsenal and United, the Giggs last minute goal in the cup semi-final, United winning the Champions League with the 2 last minutes goals and, best of all from my perspective , City’s miraculous comeback in the old Division 3  play-off final against Gillingham which is in my all-time top 5 sporting moments.

How good was the football in the 1999 Premier League race? Looking at Arsenal first, they finished 1 point behind United and were extremely close to winning it. They lost their penultimate game away at Leeds and had they won that the ending could have been so different. But their football at times was dull. Very dull. They won 9 games 1-0 and drew 7 games 0-0.  They only let in 17 goals all season. Maybe Wenger was Mourhino’s  greatest influence? 

Of course 1999 was United’s best ever season in terms of pots won and that is only the thing that really matters BUT whilst they were entertaining they weren’t particularly dominant that year. The league was won with the 2nd lowest points tally of all Ferguson’s 13 Premier League titles and it follows that their win rate was very low as they clocked up their highest number of draws (13)  in the Premier League era.

I can’t help but think that all 4 of YaYa, Silva, Kompany and Aguero would walk into the 1999 United or Arsenal teams and also the Arsenal invincibles.

[david3103]

Comparisons with 1999 and 2004 then? It is always very difficult comparing players from different eras but I agree with hyy in one thing in that the game has totally evolved since then. I’ll go off at tangent here and look back to 1999.

On the face of it the late stages of the 1999 season threw up some incredibly exciting moments  – a very tight PL race between Arsenal and United, the Giggs last minute goal in the cup semi-final, United winning the Champions League with the 2 last minutes goals and, best of all from my perspective , City’s miraculous comeback in the old Division 3  play-off final against Gillingham which is in my all-time top 5 sporting moments.

How good was the football in the 1999 Premier League race? Looking at Arsenal first, they finished 1 point behind United and were extremely close to winning it. They lost their penultimate game away at Leeds and had they won that the ending could have been so different. But their football at times was dull. Very dull. They won 9 games 1-0 and drew 7 games 0-0.  They only let in 17 goals all season. Maybe Wenger was Mourhino’s  greatest influence? 

Of course 1999 was United’s best ever season in terms of pots won and that is only the thing that really matters BUT whilst they were entertaining they weren’t particularly dominant that year. The league was won with the 2nd lowest points tally of all Ferguson’s 13 Premier League titles and it follows that their win rate was very low as they clocked up their highest number of draws (13)  in the Premier League era.

I can’t help but think that all 4 of YaYa, Silva, Kompany and Aguero would walk into the 1999 United or Arsenal teams and also the Arsenal invincibles.

 Aguero ruined my life, but I can't help but admire him, and the rest of that City team that broke United hearts on that Sunday in May 2012.
Would he have made the '99 United team? Probably, although who would he have replaced from the quartet of Sheringham, Cole, Yorke and Solskjaer? The partnerships and understanding formed between those four were something special, but Yorke is probably the most vulnerable.
Yaya? Awesome player, on his day, but as a replacement for Keane or Scholes? Nah.
Kompany? I guess he would have denied David May his medal haul.
Silva? See above re Yaya.

I'd take three of the four tomorrow if offered them.

[horseplayer]

Yaya has 50 goals in 170 games for city

Considering he has played a fair amount of these games as a holding midfielder this is not the record of somebody lazy or inconsistent as is often bandied about.

The most underated player of the modern era can and often has done everything you want from a midfielder.

With time people forget that Scholes sometimes had quiet spells as did Keane.

Lehmanm over hart? About equal for me but Jens made plenty of clangers as most keepers do

[Archer]

Comparisons with 1999 and 2004 then? It is always very difficult comparing players from different eras but I agree with hyy in one thing in that the game has totally evolved since then. I’ll go off at tangent here and look back to 1999.

On the face of it the late stages of the 1999 season threw up some incredibly exciting moments  – a very tight PL race between Arsenal and United, the Giggs last minute goal in the cup semi-final, United winning the Champions League with the 2 last minutes goals and, best of all from my perspective , City’s miraculous comeback in the old Division 3  play-off final against Gillingham which is in my all-time top 5 sporting moments.

How good was the football in the 1999 Premier League race? Looking at Arsenal first, they finished 1 point behind United and were extremely close to winning it. They lost their penultimate game away at Leeds and had they won that the ending could have been so different. But their football at times was dull. Very dull. They won 9 games 1-0 and drew 7 games 0-0.  They only let in 17 goals all season. Maybe Wenger was Mourhino’s  greatest influence?  

Of course 1999 was United’s best ever season in terms of pots won and that is only the thing that really matters BUT whilst they were entertaining they weren’t particularly dominant that year. The league was won with the 2nd lowest points tally of all Ferguson’s 13 Premier League titles and it follows that their win rate was very low as they clocked up their highest number of draws (13)  in the Premier League era.

I can’t help but think that all 4 of YaYa, Silva, Kompany and Aguero would walk into the 1999 United or Arsenal teams and also the Arsenal invincibles.

 Aguero ruined my life, but I can't help but admire him, and the rest of that City team that broke United hearts on that Sunday in May 2012.
Would he have made the '99 United team? Probably, although who would he have replaced from the quartet of Sheringham, Cole, Yorke and Solskjaer? The partnerships and understanding formed between those four were something special, but Yorke is probably the most vulnerable.
Yaya? Awesome player, on his day, but as a replacement for Keane or Scholes? Nah.
Kompany? I guess he would have denied David May his medal haul.
Silva? See above re Yaya.

I'd take three of the four tomorrow if offered them.

You've just reminded me of my favourite David May photo from the 1999 CL final:

                      

Click to see full-size image.

Thing is, he didn't play in the final and that was his John Terry moment. Brilliant

In fact May hardly played at all in 1999. Apart from Stam, the load  was spread between Johnsen, Berg, Brown and May.

[Archer]

Yaya has 50 goals in 170 games for city

Considering he has played a fair amount of these games as a holding midfielder this is not the record of somebody lazy or inconsistent as is often bandied about.

The most underated player of the modern era can and often has done everything you want from a midfielder.

With time people forget that Scholes sometimes had quiet spells as did Keane.

Lehmanm over hart? About equal for me but Jens made plenty of clangers as most keepers do

Can't disagree with any of that.

I started watching this youtube recently. He seems pretty good to me for a lazy git...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vgTUQnklm4

[hhyftrftdr]

Yaya really impressed me when he filled in at centre half in the Champions League final vs United. He had their entire attacking talent in his back pocket for 90 mins.

I can understand why people think he's lazy (I might even be guilty of calling him a lazy twat the odd time ) but in reality he isn't. I think age is starting to catch up with him now, it can't be easy lugging that monster frame around the pitch all game, chasing players 10 years younger than him.

We've been very lucky to have him for the last 5 years, his contribution has been immense, despite the odd birthday cake shaped wobble. I remember when we signed him, there were some ridiculous comments from the ''experts''. The tool who has/had a column in The Mirror basically said football was dead because we spent £24m on him, and that muppet Phil Thompson said on Soccer Saturday that he ''guaranteed'' that Liverpool signing Poulson (who?) that summer was a better transfer than us snapping up Toure.

[Archer]

First Aguero and then Silva injured on international duty. 

Looks like at least a month out for Aguero. Not sure about Silva yet but not good.

[hhyftrftdr]

First Aguero and then Silva injured on international duty. 

Looks like at least a month out for Aguero. Not sure about Silva yet but not good.

The only thing worse than an international break, is an international break where your best players get injured! Just waiting on Vinny to get cropped now to complete the hat trick.

[swinebag22]

Being optimistic, at least Bony gets a run of games. I think this is what he needs to get some confidence.

Can't believe how poor we run on International duty

[hhyftrftdr]

We can add Kolarov to the list; limped off last night for Serbia. Was also sent off from the bench, not like Aleks to be feisty

Praying Vinny comes through unscathed.