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« Reply #360 on: February 02, 2016, 07:05:08 PM »

i can't agree with you Aaron

Man C don't have a storied history of trophies, and of course are bankrolled by hugely wealthy middle eastern interests

no different (substitute shady russian oil in ) a decade ago for chelsea, or Thais at Leicester or new money at Sheffield Wednesday etc etc

they have a history though

In my lifetime Neil Young won the FA Cup for them, Bell, Summerbee, Tueart, Joe Corrigan, the 82 cup final, 5-1 against united, down two divisions, epic play off win, kinkladze, goater etc etc and then the money

no club, especially with the influx of overseas money these days, can or should expect the status quo to last for long

what constitutes a big club changes from decade to decade. if  blonde were around in 1957 we'd have been having the debate about bolton and blackpool being new money and preston and blackburn the old giants...
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« Reply #361 on: February 02, 2016, 07:23:15 PM »

I find it all quite weird really. He's been at Barca and Bayern, I still could never see him at Man City because in my eyes Man City are still a nothing club, compared to the real giants of Europe. The Bayern's, Barca's, Madrid's, Arsenal & co. It's obviously just a money thing, which I never thought he was.

Disappointing on MP though. He looks to me a really good fit for United, but obviously that would never happen with his links to the blue half of the City.

You are a Wednesday fan, right? Your "nothing club" comment surprises me because you sound like many posters on Liverpool or United forums. And Arsenal a European giant without ever winning the CL?

Bayern offered Pep similar money to City to extend his contract. So to say it's just  a money thing is nonsense.

I wouldn't call Man City a "nothing club" in general terms. But when you consider them to the teams in Europe right now, then they really are. Going from Barca a club with so much success, Bayern the same, then to Man City. Man City really have achieved nothing, they don't even have any sort of history in England.

Closet united fan by any chance?

Some bizarre comments, the type of stuff we expect from Salford, not from Sheffield. This ''nothing club'' is the only one in England still in all 4 competitions. This ''nothing club'' was the first team in Europe qualified this season despite losing the first game.

Pep could have chosen whatever team he wanted, literally any club in the world would have him as their manager. He's plumped for little old City. How the times have changed, and some don't seem to like it.

I love it when people pull out the ''history'' card, makes them look so stupid and ignorant. Some clubs rely on history, whilst others are busy making it.

I just don't get it. I also don't get why he is the best manager in the world, he has managed 2 fantastic teams and one of them would win the league every year, the other would never be out of the top two.

Also, it makes me a closet United fan, because I said this? You are in 4 cups, so are Liverpool. You say you are making history, what history is that? I talk about history, because the reality is that you don't have rich history of a "top" club. It will take you decades to be honest. A top club would fill their stadium, the reality is that you have very cheap tickets considering you are title contenders, you can't fill the stadium.

Ah yes, cos Liverpool are in with a shout of the title?

Some more naïve comments about Guardiola. I think it's safe to say he was the most coveted manager in the world after 6 trophy laden years in Spain and Germany. If he isn't currently the best manager in world football, I'd be delighted to hear who you think is. Mourinho? Wenger? Pardew? Guardiola might have been in charge of 2 clubs that are nearly always there or thereabouts, but you still have to do the business. And he does it in style. LVG is in charge of a club who are usually there or thereabouts, and he's doing a fine (crap) job. Time will tell if Pep can transfer his skills to the English game, but I'm excited to find out and quietly confident he'll be absolutely fine.

Almost got a line up on City bingo; history and empty stadium, well played. Just need to mention oil money and wages and you're there.

Put down The Sun and start to form your own opinions.
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« Reply #362 on: February 02, 2016, 07:27:17 PM »

UEFA once again showering themselves in glory. Cheers for letting the racists off, and giving us City fans 3 weeks notice to arrange travel. Morons.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/manchester-city-kiev-blues-fans-10827301
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« Reply #363 on: February 02, 2016, 07:40:56 PM »

I find it all quite weird really. He's been at Barca and Bayern, I still could never see him at Man City because in my eyes Man City are still a nothing club, compared to the real giants of Europe. The Bayern's, Barca's, Madrid's, Arsenal & co. It's obviously just a money thing, which I never thought he was.

Disappointing on MP though. He looks to me a really good fit for United, but obviously that would never happen with his links to the blue half of the City.

You are a Wednesday fan, right? Your "nothing club" comment surprises me because you sound like many posters on Liverpool or United forums. And Arsenal a European giant without ever winning the CL?

Bayern offered Pep similar money to City to extend his contract. So to say it's just  a money thing is nonsense.

Could have earned more in China or the the Emirates so no its not money doubt pep is skint  tbh

Pretty sure it's the best money available in something approaching a serious football league that he hasn't managed in - both in terms of salary and propensity of the club to spend big.

City offer a better balance of personal financial reward and potential glory in terms of winning in Europe than just about any other club (not already doing it on a European stage).

The glory is attainable due to the money so, it is literally, for sure, all about the money

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« Reply #364 on: February 02, 2016, 07:47:05 PM »

Hope we can go back about 4 years please!
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« Reply #365 on: February 02, 2016, 07:48:22 PM »

Hope we can go back about 4 years please!

I'm very tired of our historic 1-0 losses at the SOL Smiley
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« Reply #366 on: February 02, 2016, 08:00:43 PM »

I find it all quite weird really. He's been at Barca and Bayern, I still could never see him at Man City because in my eyes Man City are still a nothing club, compared to the real giants of Europe. The Bayern's, Barca's, Madrid's, Arsenal & co. It's obviously just a money thing, which I never thought he was.

Disappointing on MP though. He looks to me a really good fit for United, but obviously that would never happen with his links to the blue half of the City.

You are a Wednesday fan, right? Your "nothing club" comment surprises me because you sound like many posters on Liverpool or United forums. And Arsenal a European giant without ever winning the CL?

Bayern offered Pep similar money to City to extend his contract. So to say it's just  a money thing is nonsense.

I wouldn't call Man City a "nothing club" in general terms. But when you consider them to the teams in Europe right now, then they really are. Going from Barca a club with so much success, Bayern the same, then to Man City. Man City really have achieved nothing, they don't even have any sort of history in England.

Closet united fan by any chance?

Some bizarre comments, the type of stuff we expect from Salford, not from Sheffield. This ''nothing club'' is the only one in England still in all 4 competitions. This ''nothing club'' was the first team in Europe qualified this season despite losing the first game.

Pep could have chosen whatever team he wanted, literally any club in the world would have him as their manager. He's plumped for little old City. How the times have changed, and some don't seem to like it.

I love it when people pull out the ''history'' card, makes them look so stupid and ignorant. Some clubs rely on history, whilst others are busy making it.

I just don't get it. I also don't get why he is the best manager in the world, he has managed 2 fantastic teams and one of them would win the league every year, the other would never be out of the top two.

Also, it makes me a closet United fan, because I said this? You are in 4 cups, so are Liverpool. You say you are making history, what history is that? I talk about history, because the reality is that you don't have rich history of a "top" club. It will take you decades to be honest. A top club would fill their stadium, the reality is that you have very cheap tickets considering you are title contenders, you can't fill the stadium.

Ah yes, cos Liverpool are in with a shout of the title?

Some more naïve comments about Guardiola. I think it's safe to say he was the most coveted manager in the world after 6 trophy laden years in Spain and Germany. If he isn't currently the best manager in world football, I'd be delighted to hear who you think is. Mourinho? Wenger? Pardew? Guardiola might have been in charge of 2 clubs that are nearly always there or thereabouts, but you still have to do the business. And he does it in style. LVG is in charge of a club who are usually there or thereabouts, and he's doing a fine (crap) job. Time will tell if Pep can transfer his skills to the English game, but I'm excited to find out and quietly confident he'll be absolutely fine.

Almost got a line up on City bingo; history and empty stadium, well played. Just need to mention oil money and wages and you're there.

Put down The Sun and start to form your own opinions.

I just want you to keep up with reality, that's all.

You said Man City are in 4 cups, I said so are Liverpool.

I've also never said he is or isn't the best manager in the world. I did actually say he managed Barca and Bayern.

You said who is the best manager in the world? I really don't know & care.

I find it weird, that's all. I also find it weird that when talking about him personally, that he seems a nice guy, but would be happy to announce this new job when there is someone currently already there. I wonder how much this will affect the season?
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« Reply #367 on: February 02, 2016, 08:09:37 PM »

word is Pellegrini wanted it public (having been made aware a month ago) so other clubs were aware he is available in the summer

Multiple sources broke the news on Twitter in mid July, no way they only told Pellegrini last month.

And Twitter is never wrong or full of shit.

Twitter is jam packed full of shit but several journalists (respectedish) breaking a story at the same time and the story becoming a reality is a pretty big coincidence, especially as it was before he even announced he was leaving Bayern. It's not like Gaitin to United every summer either, this is a pretty specific situation to break a story on.
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« Reply #368 on: February 02, 2016, 08:12:25 PM »

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« Reply #369 on: February 02, 2016, 08:13:16 PM »

I find it all quite weird really. He's been at Barca and Bayern, I still could never see him at Man City because in my eyes Man City are still a nothing club, compared to the real giants of Europe. The Bayern's, Barca's, Madrid's, Arsenal & co. It's obviously just a money thing, which I never thought he was.

Disappointing on MP though. He looks to me a really good fit for United, but obviously that would never happen with his links to the blue half of the City.

You are a Wednesday fan, right? Your "nothing club" comment surprises me because you sound like many posters on Liverpool or United forums. And Arsenal a European giant without ever winning the CL?

Bayern offered Pep similar money to City to extend his contract. So to say it's just  a money thing is nonsense.

I wouldn't call Man City a "nothing club" in general terms. But when you consider them to the teams in Europe right now, then they really are. Going from Barca a club with so much success, Bayern the same, then to Man City. Man City really have achieved nothing, they don't even have any sort of history in England.

Closet united fan by any chance?

Some bizarre comments, the type of stuff we expect from Salford, not from Sheffield. This ''nothing club'' is the only one in England still in all 4 competitions. This ''nothing club'' was the first team in Europe qualified this season despite losing the first game.

Pep could have chosen whatever team he wanted, literally any club in the world would have him as their manager. He's plumped for little old City. How the times have changed, and some don't seem to like it.

I love it when people pull out the ''history'' card, makes them look so stupid and ignorant. Some clubs rely on history, whilst others are busy making it.

I just don't get it. I also don't get why he is the best manager in the world, he has managed 2 fantastic teams and one of them would win the league every year, the other would never be out of the top two.

Also, it makes me a closet United fan, because I said this? You are in 4 cups, so are Liverpool. You say you are making history, what history is that? I talk about history, because the reality is that you don't have rich history of a "top" club. It will take you decades to be honest. A top club would fill their stadium, the reality is that you have very cheap tickets considering you are title contenders, you can't fill the stadium.

Ah yes, cos Liverpool are in with a shout of the title?

Some more naïve comments about Guardiola. I think it's safe to say he was the most coveted manager in the world after 6 trophy laden years in Spain and Germany. If he isn't currently the best manager in world football, I'd be delighted to hear who you think is. Mourinho? Wenger? Pardew? Guardiola might have been in charge of 2 clubs that are nearly always there or thereabouts, but you still have to do the business. And he does it in style. LVG is in charge of a club who are usually there or thereabouts, and he's doing a fine (crap) job. Time will tell if Pep can transfer his skills to the English game, but I'm excited to find out and quietly confident he'll be absolutely fine.

Almost got a line up on City bingo; history and empty stadium, well played. Just need to mention oil money and wages and you're there.

Put down The Sun and start to form your own opinions.

I just want you to keep up with reality, that's all.

You said Man City are in 4 cups, I said so are Liverpool.

I've also never said he is or isn't the best manager in the world. I did actually say he managed Barca and Bayern.

You said who is the best manager in the world? I really don't know & care.

I find it weird, that's all. I also find it weird that when talking about him personally, that he seems a nice guy, but would be happy to announce this new job when there is someone currently already there. I wonder how much this will affect the season?

He didn't announce anything. MP announced he was leaving on the original date this summer and not taking up the option of the further year. The club then confirmed that Pep would be taking over from him. Pretty straightforward stuff to follow.

We'll see in May what this has done, if anything, to our season. I have zero concerns apart from the usual 1-0 defeat at Sunderland tonight.
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« Reply #370 on: February 02, 2016, 11:21:04 PM »

Stumbled over the line tonight, but 3 points is all that really matters at this stage. Was a bit squeaky bum for the last 15 minutes. Bonus to see Arsenal drop points at home, but Spurs are coming up on the sly and could mount a genuine title tilt this season.

Just a small game vs Leicester on Saturday lunchtime, followed by the spuds next Sunday.

Oh, and the players certainly didn't slack off knowing MP is leaving, I'm sure that will pain the media and any closet rags lurking.
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« Reply #371 on: February 02, 2016, 11:34:41 PM »

City have been pretty pants away from home- any reason why? Are they not set up to play away from home?

Surely a bit of midfield overhaul in the summer maybe Delph, yaya and Fernandinho moving on?
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« Reply #372 on: February 02, 2016, 11:48:21 PM »

City have been pretty pants away from home- any reason why? Are they not set up to play away from home?

Surely a bit of midfield overhaul in the summer maybe Delph, yaya and Fernandinho moving on?

I wish I could pinpoint why we've been so hit and miss away from home, but I couldn't tell you why. A better team tonight would have punished us. We're fortunate enough that we've had most of the tricky away games already, though we'll have to step it up a gear against better opposition (Nothing against Sunderland, they were spirited but lacked quality in the final 3rd).

I'd be amazed if we sold either of Delph or Fernandinho, but Yaya's days look even more numbered after yesterdays managerial confirmation. Pep was happy to sell him in his prime 5 years ago, I suspect he'll be moved on again this summer. It does seem the right time for him to look for one last club; he's cemented his legacy here with countless crucial goals, but he is running out of steam and his influence on games is waning. He can still turn it on when he wants to, which can be infuriating to watch him labour about for 70 minutes before springing to life (Arsenal away being a prime example), but I don't think Guardiola will accept passengers when he takes over.

I think, without wanting to get ahead of ourselves, that Pogba will be hunted to the max this summer...
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« Reply #373 on: February 03, 2016, 01:20:13 AM »

Was a bit worrying that we couldn't get out of our half for huge periods of the second half

Was a clean sheet, though MD and NO still look shaky at the back. Great to see them giving everything and putting it on the line. Sometimes you need a 'dirty' clean sheet to build confidence.

Not having comments that our 60m defenders are crap. Sure they are playing crap, but they can improve.

Midfield struggled again too, but the effort was there to see. City just look like a poorly coached side, relying on flair players to do the business with no real plan B when they get shut out.

Really looking forward to Saturday. Should be a great test for both sides. Really enjoyed the game at their place. It was 0-0 but it had a real 'top of the table' feel to it.
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« Reply #374 on: February 04, 2016, 12:34:49 PM »

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