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[nirvana]

Mildly interesting hand, interested in thoughts

Day 1  -average stack around 45k I think

Full ring - UTG + 1 Raises to 2500 at BB 1000, antes a hundo
Mid position calls
Button - oldish guy, perhaps 45, not been out of line too much makes it 8K

I'm in the SB with    and make it 19K - out of around 80K

Fold fold, after a slight dwell Button jams and its now 45K to call the jam

WUG ?

[George2Loose]

Well I assume u didn't 4 bet to fold a hand this strong? I think the most interesting decision is what to do before you've 4 bet

[nirvana]

Well I assume u didn't 4 bet to fold a hand this strong? I think the most interesting decision is what to do before you've 4 bet

Yah, what do you think about the 4 bet out of the blinds Rupers

[pleno1]

i'd just fold to the 3bet

[nirvana]

i'd just fold to the 3bet

yep, maybe, I think the button has a really narrow range here - 3 hands, maybe 4

[George2Loose]

Folding probably but it's so pretty! Million I fold in game

[SuuPRlim]

Surely no way you can fold now?

[Rexas]

Yh think I would rather fold than voluntarily put more chips in, unless I thought the guy on the button was crazy. As played there is absolutely no way I'm folding.

Anyone think flatting the 3b is worth considering here?

[nirvana]

Thanks for the replies. Like a few people said probably the most interesting question is whether to and sizing of 4 bet out of blinds.

Obv follow up being are we pot stuck or is a fold the better play to the 5 bet jam. Been discussing it with a fellow old roffler. . He thinks it's a snap and I think fold is good

[Rexas]

You're now getting like 2:1 and vs a range of QQ+ and AK you've got what, a little better than 40% equity?

[nirvana]

You're now getting like 2:1 and vs a range of QQ+ and AK you've got what, a little better than 40% equity?

Embarrassing really as wouldn't have expected equity to be as high as 40% ish against that range.

So, from a theoretical perspective, calling off is good here but I guess 'why are we here ?' is a more interesting question.

I did the time honoured switcheroo here and I was actually the button (ho ho, great japes). The SB was some kind of tall, bald, older, Germanic sounding guy who I think may be a pro. Up to that point his main professional attribute seemed to be the ability to call until he was ahead.

His run up to the 4 bet gave me quite a lot of enjoyment as he stated for his audience/fans ' so, there's a raise to 2500, call and now a raise to 8000, hmm ' , cue for vexed look, lots of counting and re-counting of chips and then a proud ' raise' followed by the 19k, followed by a little nudge of the chips to fall over. Genuinely found all the posturing hilarious.

I thought the re-raise out of the blinds to the action so far was pretty bad/reckless/pointless and it was interesting to hear pads perspective that he would have folded to the 3 bet so 'why are we here ?' never happens for the SB. I might well fold there too although I think there's some kind of case for raise/folding - not sure what that case is but I'm sure it's there.

[booder]

You're now getting like 2:1 and vs a range of QQ+ and AK you've got what, a little better than 40% equity?

Embarrassing really as wouldn't have expected equity to be as high as 40% ish against that range.

So, from a theoretical perspective, calling off is good here but I guess 'why are we here ?' is a more interesting question.

I did the time honoured switcheroo here and I was actually the button (ho ho, great japes). The SB was some kind of tall, bald, older, Germanic sounding guy who I think may be a pro. Up to that point his main professional attribute seemed to be the ability to call until he was ahead.

His run up to the 4 bet gave me quite a lot of enjoyment as he stated for his audience/fans ' so, there's a raise to 2500, call and now a raise to 8000, hmm ' , cue for vexed look, lots of counting and re-counting of chips and then a proud ' raise' followed by the 19k, followed by a little nudge of the chips to fall over. Genuinely found all the posturing hilarious.

I thought the re-raise out of the blinds to the action so far was pretty bad/reckless/pointless and it was interesting to hear pads perspective that he would have folded to the 3 bet so 'why are we here ?' never happens for the SB. I might well fold there too although I think there's some kind of case for raise/folding - not sure what that case is but I'm sure it's there.

Boldie ?

[nirvana]

You're now getting like 2:1 and vs a range of QQ+ and AK you've got what, a little better than 40% equity?

Embarrassing really as wouldn't have expected equity to be as high as 40% ish against that range.

So, from a theoretical perspective, calling off is good here but I guess 'why are we here ?' is a more interesting question.

I did the time honoured switcheroo here and I was actually the button (ho ho, great japes). The SB was some kind of tall, bald, older, Germanic sounding guy who I think may be a pro. Up to that point his main professional attribute seemed to be the ability to call until he was ahead.

His run up to the 4 bet gave me quite a lot of enjoyment as he stated for his audience/fans ' so, there's a raise to 2500, call and now a raise to 8000, hmm ' , cue for vexed look, lots of counting and re-counting of chips and then a proud ' raise' followed by the 19k, followed by a little nudge of the chips to fall over. Genuinely found all the posturing hilarious.

I thought the re-raise out of the blinds to the action so far was pretty bad/reckless/pointless and it was interesting to hear pads perspective that he would have folded to the 3 bet so 'why are we here ?' never happens for the SB. I might well fold there too although I think there's some kind of case for raise/folding - not sure what that case is but I'm sure it's there.

Boldie ?

wahahaha, come to think of it, he did mention some kinda scheme.....

[Doobs]

Button is 45? Bad read surely?

[nirvana]

Button is 45? Bad read surely?

Haha, some license in the narrative for disguise purposes