Happy Mondays

[atdc21]

I agree with Greeky and George.
Amusing that the 2 people with the biggest view about employers and what they should do, havent or couldnt work for anyone for decades .

[arbboy]

I agree with Greeky and George.
Amusing that the 2 people with the biggest view about employers and what they should do, havent or couldnt work for anyone for decades .

Why make factually incorrect statements on both counts about people you don't even know personally?

I think the biggest factor here (hence my question last night) is having a day off at short notice for 'gambling', as a total once in a lifetime spot which this is potentially winning life changing money, would be generally frowned upon by your corporate bosses even though it is your hobby.  

If i changed the question to the same Sunday night/Monday morning with no notice because someone has cancelled and i have a spare ticket and i have a once in a lifetime experience for your other biggest passion in life (VIP centre court tickets at Wimbledon with hospitality if you are a tennis fan or tickets/backstage passes/private jet to fly you to the concert in Europe etc for your favourite artist that evening) i am assuming it would be easier to get the day off work for some because it would be more 'socially acceptable use of a day's holiday by you'.

[ripple11]

I agree with Greeky and George.
Amusing that the 2 people with the biggest view about employers and what they should do, havent or couldnt work for anyone for decades .

Why make factual incorrect statements about people you don't even know personally?

I think the biggest factor here (hence my question last night) is having a day off at short notice for 'gambling', as a total once in a lifetime spot which this is potentially winning life changing money, would be generally frowned upon by your corporate bosses even though it is your hobby.  

If i changed the question to the same Sunday night/Monday morning with no notice because someone has cancelled and i have a spare ticket and i have a once in a lifetime experience for your other biggest passion in life (VIP centre court tickets at Wimbledon with hospitality if you are a tennis fan or tickets/backstage passes/private jet to fly you to the concert in Europe etc for your favourite artist that evening) i am assuming it would be easier to get the day off work for some because it would be more 'socially acceptable use of a day's holiday by you'.

....not sure Chas and Dave do Europe anymore, but I would be tempted.

[nirvana]

This thread is basically full of people (including me) extrapolating from personal experience, which while interesting is fairly useless.

One thing that most of you on both sides seem to be missing is this is literally a one-off thing. How many final tables of a £500+ tournament is the average rec likely to make? It's not like you're asking for every other Monday off.

But I do agree in some jobs it's never possible and in all others you will have to see what kind of Monday it is before you buy in. Some Mondays are just not possible in any job.

I think this is exactly what I would post, perhaps less eloquently, if I wasn't on my phone. Redundant answers generally because they are so personal to your own circs

[The Camel]

This thread is basically full of people (including me) extrapolating from personal experience, which while interesting is fairly useless.

One thing that most of you on both sides seem to be missing is this is literally a one-off thing. How many final tables of a £500+ tournament is the average rec likely to make? It's not like you're asking for every other Monday off.

But I do agree in some jobs it's never possible and in all others you will have to see what kind of Monday it is before you buy in. Some Mondays are just not possible in any job.

Absolutely this.

If it's a once in five years thing, it would be a very hard hearted boss who'd not say "good luck, go and win the lot".

[The Camel]

I agree with Greeky and George.
Amusing that the 2 people with the biggest view about employers and what they should do, havent or couldnt work for anyone for decades .

Decent trolling attempt.

[david3103]

This thread is basically full of people (including me) extrapolating from personal experience, which while interesting is fairly useless.

One thing that most of you on both sides seem to be missing is this is literally a one-off thing. How many final tables of a £500+ tournament is the average rec likely to make? It's not like you're asking for every other Monday off.

But I do agree in some jobs it's never possible and in all others you will have to see what kind of Monday it is before you buy in. Some Mondays are just not possible in any job.

Absolutely this.

If it's a once in five years thing, it would be a very hard hearted boss who'd not say "good luck, go and win the lot".

Smaller buy in admittedly but G2L and I both made consecutive 3 day comp c2000 runner final tables. Not sure how it would go down if we'd needed to make that phone call for the second time in three months...

[WotRTheChances]

I would have thought that asking for a day off the morning of that day (assuming it would have to be, given it would be a late finish on Sunday) wouldn't be acceptable to any company (unless it's some sort of small friendly place where you can come to a pre-arranged agreement with your boss about this kind of situation). It's also got to be pretty difficult to pull a sickie and keep it quiet, given you'll be winning a decent chunk of money on that day and social media etc will almost certainly land you in trouble

[AlunB]

I would have thought that asking for a day off the morning of that day (assuming it would have to be, given it would be a late finish on Sunday) wouldn't be acceptable to any company (unless it's some sort of small friendly place where you can come to a pre-arranged agreement with your boss about this kind of situation). It's also got to be pretty difficult to pull a sickie and keep it quiet, given you'll be winning a decent chunk of money on that day and social media etc will almost certainly land you in trouble

Look at it another way. If it was a genuine crisis it would be acceptable in pretty much every company that you would want to work for. This is not a crisis, but neither is it just wanting a lie in because you're hungover.

Surely the GTO move is to make sure you've not got anything you can't get out of on the Monday then pre-warn your boss the week preceding you might need to take a last minute holiday, but it's pretty unlikely and will be a one off. If he says absolutely not then book it as holiday.

[DungBeetle]

I would have thought that asking for a day off the morning of that day (assuming it would have to be, given it would be a late finish on Sunday) wouldn't be acceptable to any company (unless it's some sort of small friendly place where you can come to a pre-arranged agreement with your boss about this kind of situation). It's also got to be pretty difficult to pull a sickie and keep it quiet, given you'll be winning a decent chunk of money on that day and social media etc will almost certainly land you in trouble

Look at it another way. If it was a genuine crisis it would be acceptable in pretty much every company that you would want to work for. This is not a crisis, but neither is it just wanting a lie in because you're hungover.

Surely the GTO move is to make sure you've not got anything you can't get out of on the Monday then pre-warn your boss the week preceding you might need to take a last minute holiday, but it's pretty unlikely and will be a one off. If he says absolutely not then book it as holiday.

Problem with that is if you play once a month, that's a lot of Mondays where you are keeping the diary empty just in case. 

[NoCardDSC]

I would have thought that asking for a day off the morning of that day (assuming it would have to be, given it would be a late finish on Sunday) wouldn't be acceptable to any company (unless it's some sort of small friendly place where you can come to a pre-arranged agreement with your boss about this kind of situation). It's also got to be pretty difficult to pull a sickie and keep it quiet, given you'll be winning a decent chunk of money on that day and social media etc will almost certainly land you in trouble

Look at it another way. If it was a genuine crisis it would be acceptable in pretty much every company that you would want to work for. This is not a crisis, but neither is it just wanting a lie in because you're hungover.

Surely the GTO move is to make sure you've not got anything you can't get out of on the Monday then pre-warn your boss the week preceding you might need to take a last minute holiday, but it's pretty unlikely and will be a one off. If he says absolutely not then book it as holiday.

Agree with all of this - however, if you're going to be warning him that you might need last minute holiday on the Monday morning a few times a month, he will be wondering what it's all about.

If it's just a few times a year then it is probably more practical just booking it off.

We could also turn the above point on its head and look at it in the way of - provisionally booking the Monday off, and then coming in if you weren't to get to the FT, can imagine this would be of dependant on how your company runs and how tolerable your Manager(s) are.

[The Camel]

I would have thought that asking for a day off the morning of that day (assuming it would have to be, given it would be a late finish on Sunday) wouldn't be acceptable to any company (unless it's some sort of small friendly place where you can come to a pre-arranged agreement with your boss about this kind of situation). It's also got to be pretty difficult to pull a sickie and keep it quiet, given you'll be winning a decent chunk of money on that day and social media etc will almost certainly land you in trouble

Look at it another way. If it was a genuine crisis it would be acceptable in pretty much every company that you would want to work for. This is not a crisis, but neither is it just wanting a lie in because you're hungover.

Surely the GTO move is to make sure you've not got anything you can't get out of on the Monday then pre-warn your boss the week preceding you might need to take a last minute holiday, but it's pretty unlikely and will be a one off. If he says absolutely not then book it as holiday.

Problem with that is if you play once a month, that's a lot of Mondays where you are keeping the diary empty just in case. 

I was under the impression we were talking about a rec who plays a big tournament once or maybe twice a year and therefore it is about 100/1 they will need a Monday off to play a final.

For someone who is playing ten or more big tournaments per year, this is not appropriate clearly unless you have a very sympathetic boss.

[The Camel]

FWIW I think phoning in sick it the nut worst solution (if you value your job)

[AlunB]

Yeah I was under the same impression as Keith that you're only playing once or twice a year. Events you either Sat into or that are close to home etc. Agree that's not at all practical if you're playing one a month.

[bobAlike]

When we enter a poker tournament we all think we can win it irrespective of the reality. As I work for myself I can have a Monday off with little or no notice but I would not like to jeopardise, however remotely, any contracts I currently have just because I want to play poker.

One further point - I find it is far easier to slope off early on a Friday than it is to rearrange the diary on Monday.