Happy Mondays

[The Camel]

At what point during the weekend are people ringing in to ask for a days holiday?

Assuming Monday morning?

So your boss asks why you are asking for a holiday day when you should already be at your desk, what do you tell him?

Your boss says no, what do you do then?

Pretty surprised at people thinking this isn't a big deal

I would say on the Wednesday before I started playing,

"Guvnor, there's a decent tournament at DTD this weekend, I'm thinking of having a crack, but the final is on Monday. If the 1% chance of making the final 9 comes in, is it ok that I take a day's holiday? I won't bother entering if you need me"

"Yeah sounds perfectly reasonable mate. In return is it okay if next time we have a job cancelled at short notice I just send you home for a day and not pay you?"

If that was your answer, I wouldn't play.

[Tal]

At what point during the weekend are people ringing in to ask for a days holiday?

Assuming Monday morning?

So your boss asks why you are asking for a holiday day when you should already be at your desk, what do you tell him?

Your boss says no, what do you do then?

Pretty surprised at people thinking this isn't a big deal

I would say on the Wednesday before I started playing,

"Guvnor, there's a decent tournament at DTD this weekend, I'm thinking of having a crack, but the final is on Monday. If the 1% chance of making the final 9 comes in, is it ok that I take a day's holiday? I won't bother entering if you need me"

That's the adult way to approach it. But it isn't what the debate has been about.

Brilliant!

It's nothing more than just basic, common respect. Your boss should be able to come in knowing whether you are expected to attend.

I'd prefer to book a Friday that I know I need off than a Monday I know I probably don't need off.

[AlunB]

At what point during the weekend are people ringing in to ask for a days holiday?

Assuming Monday morning?

So your boss asks why you are asking for a holiday day when you should already be at your desk, what do you tell him?

Your boss says no, what do you do then?

Pretty surprised at people thinking this isn't a big deal

I would say on the Wednesday before I started playing,

"Guvnor, there's a decent tournament at DTD this weekend, I'm thinking of having a crack, but the final is on Monday. If the 1% chance of making the final 9 comes in, is it ok that I take a day's holiday? I won't bother entering if you need me"

That's the adult way to approach it. But it isn't what the debate has been about.

It has for most people. Granted not for everyone.

[david3103]

At what point during the weekend are people ringing in to ask for a days holiday?

Assuming Monday morning?

So your boss asks why you are asking for a holiday day when you should already be at your desk, what do you tell him?

Your boss says no, what do you do then?

Pretty surprised at people thinking this isn't a big deal

I would say on the Wednesday before I started playing,

"Guvnor, there's a decent tournament at DTD this weekend, I'm thinking of having a crack, but the final is on Monday. If the 1% chance of making the final 9 comes in, is it ok that I take a day's holiday? I won't bother entering if you need me"

That's the adult way to approach it. But it isn't what the debate has been about.

It has for most people. Granted not for everyone.

Sorry, I didn't make it clear, but IMO much of the debate has been about whether 'bosses' would give you a day off at short notice to play poker.
Keith's suggestion isn't about that.

[Ironside]

give me a good old fashioned 2 day comp any day of the week
even fri/sat day 1 and day 2 on a sunday to a finish

[NigDawG]

give me a good old fashioned 2 day comp any day of the week

just not monday!

[doubleup]

At what point during the weekend are people ringing in to ask for a days holiday?

Assuming Monday morning?

So your boss asks why you are asking for a holiday day when you should already be at your desk, what do you tell him?

Your boss says no, what do you do then?

Pretty surprised at people thinking this isn't a big deal

I would say on the Wednesday before I started playing,

"Guvnor, there's a decent tournament at DTD this weekend, I'm thinking of having a crack, but the final is on Monday. If the 1% chance of making the final 9 comes in, is it ok that I take a day's holiday? I won't bother entering if you need me"

That's the adult way to approach it. But it isn't what the debate has been about.

It has for most people. Granted not for everyone.

Sorry, I didn't make it clear, but IMO much of the debate has been about whether 'bosses' would give you a day off at short notice to play poker.
Keith's suggestion isn't about that.

You don't need to apologise, your point was perfectly clear, I can't understand how Alun can't distinguish between someone planning in advance, checking their diary to be sure that they don't have anything vital on the day and someone just phoning up at 8.30 and saying "it's like this".  (Of course Nirvana thinks there isn't a difference)

[nirvana]

Pretty certain I don't think that

[doubleup]

Pretty certain I don't think that

well you don't seem to think that there is any difference between the consequences of either scenario.

[nirvana]

I think I've said already it's all a bit too personal to ones own circumstances to judge really.

I would almost certainly tip people off that I may need to take Monday and I would make sure I wouldn't let anyone down by being absent. That's just courtesy obviously. Equally, I think I could just call on the Monday and there would be no consequences - but that's my situation- I wouldn't advise anyone else how they should behave.

In parallel to the main thrust of this thread, I have been having a separate discussion with myself about other things that I don't quite recall at the moment.

[AlunB]

At what point during the weekend are people ringing in to ask for a days holiday?

Assuming Monday morning?

So your boss asks why you are asking for a holiday day when you should already be at your desk, what do you tell him?

Your boss says no, what do you do then?

Pretty surprised at people thinking this isn't a big deal

I would say on the Wednesday before I started playing,

"Guvnor, there's a decent tournament at DTD this weekend, I'm thinking of having a crack, but the final is on Monday. If the 1% chance of making the final 9 comes in, is it ok that I take a day's holiday? I won't bother entering if you need me"

That's the adult way to approach it. But it isn't what the debate has been about.

It has for most people. Granted not for everyone.

Sorry, I didn't make it clear, but IMO much of the debate has been about whether 'bosses' would give you a day off at short notice to play poker.
Keith's suggestion isn't about that.

You don't need to apologise, your point was perfectly clear, I can't understand how Alun can't distinguish between someone planning in advance, checking their diary to be sure that they don't have anything vital on the day and someone just phoning up at 8.30 and saying "it's like this".  (Of course Nirvana thinks there isn't a difference)

I do agree he doesn't need to apologise. But I appreciated him clarifying even if you didn't. I actually made basically the same point earlier in the thread, and (probably incorrectly) assumed most people in the phone in a last minute holiday camp thought in a similar way to me.

I would have thought that asking for a day off the morning of that day (assuming it would have to be, given it would be a late finish on Sunday) wouldn't be acceptable to any company (unless it's some sort of small friendly place where you can come to a pre-arranged agreement with your boss about this kind of situation). It's also got to be pretty difficult to pull a sickie and keep it quiet, given you'll be winning a decent chunk of money on that day and social media etc will almost certainly land you in trouble

Look at it another way. If it was a genuine crisis it would be acceptable in pretty much every company that you would want to work for. This is not a crisis, but neither is it just wanting a lie in because you're hungover.

Surely the GTO move is to make sure you've not got anything you can't get out of on the Monday then pre-warn your boss the week preceding you might need to take a last minute holiday, but it's pretty unlikely and will be a one off. If he says absolutely not then book it as holiday.

[AlunB]

I can understand that you didn't read my post before having a pop at me though

[alfiesdad]

At what point during the weekend are people ringing in to ask for a days holiday?

Assuming Monday morning?

So your boss asks why you are asking for a holiday day when you should already be at your desk, what do you tell him?

Your boss says no, what do you do then?

Pretty surprised at people thinking this isn't a big deal

I would say on the Wednesday before I started playing,

"Guvnor, there's a decent tournament at DTD this weekend, I'm thinking of having a crack, but the final is on Monday. If the 1% chance of making the final 9 comes in, is it ok that I take a day's holiday? I won't bother entering if you need me"

Had exactly this scenario for a UKIPT FT in Dublin couple of years back...
Mentioned it to the Boss before I went and said extremely unlikely, but would it be ok to call you on Sunday night to book Monday off, should the unlikely happen?
He said barring the plague striking in the rest of the team, yes that would be ok.
I phone him on the Sunday, tell him what is at stake, how grateful id be and that i would take out all the Team for lunch on the Tues.
He totally understood and wished me luck (think the majority of bosses in larger companies would).
Obviously I get set over setted to get knocked out first on the FT and  then stand the team lunch!
If it wasn't for bad luck, Id have no luck!!

[doubleup]

I can understand that you didn't read my post before having a pop at me though

I can as well it being late on a Friday and emotion and tiredness being clearly evident   

[david3103]

One of the Teaching Assistants at Mrs 3103's school took an official Monday off today to accommodate her flight back from taking her half-term holiday in America.
She then sent a text at around 6pm to say that her flight from Heathrow to Leeds had been cancelled due to fog and they were on a bus.
At just after eight she announced that she was home but would like another leave of absence day to overcome the jet lag...

That has gone down like a fart in a lift.