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« Reply #4065 on: August 27, 2020, 11:48:43 PM »

Ah, forgot about Miller, which shows how good he is. Like a vampire, so you don't see much of him, until he pops up to rip into someone/thing on the news Cheesy

I can't listen to KAC, though. She just gives me a headache as soon as she opens her mouth, and never really seems to say much. She's good at ignoring whoever she's talking to, and making sure she gets out what she wants to say, which I suppose is the aim.
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« Reply #4066 on: August 27, 2020, 11:51:54 PM »

Lara Trump getting ready for her speech last night, with her make-up assistant, Eric.

https://twitter.com/LaraLeaTrump/status/1298794194341900289


It's better than this one by Eric, about Herschel Walker, the ex-NFL football player who spoke on Monday.

https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1298069803916296192
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« Reply #4067 on: August 27, 2020, 11:55:38 PM »

Lara Trump getting ready for her speech last night, with her make-up assistant, Eric.

https://twitter.com/LaraLeaTrump/status/1298794194341900289


It's better than this one by Eric, about Herschel Walker, the ex-NFL football player who spoke on Monday.

https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1298069803916296192

I know lots of people take the piss out of him, and is it any wonder.

I remember reading about him not being too popular within the family, but that's most likely just nonsense. He does always come across as the least savvy member in the whole family, though.
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« Reply #4068 on: August 28, 2020, 03:44:15 PM »



Ivanka and Melania get on well, obv Grin
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« Reply #4069 on: August 28, 2020, 11:33:18 PM »

How did Trump do yesterday, watched a fair bit but not all.

Thought he did OK and managed to restrain himself pretty well from any disastrous ad libbing
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« Reply #4070 on: August 28, 2020, 11:41:24 PM »

Earlier today Biden hit 1.93 on Betfair, which seemed ludicrous considering he’s 2 points ahead in Florida and 4 points up in Pennsylvania and clearly ahead of where Hillary was four years ago. Just seems like the market is ovecompensating for Trump’s victory last time out
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« Reply #4071 on: August 28, 2020, 11:57:55 PM »

How did Trump do yesterday, watched a fair bit but not all.

Thought he did OK and managed to restrain himself pretty well from any disastrous ad libbing

If the idea was for him to look sensible, he certainly did that.

Largely helped by some of the loons he had talking for him.

Can't think it will have done much either way, and was as bad as the DNC really.

Anyone that was in Cheetotown before will still be there, as will anyone on the Sleepy Joe express.
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« Reply #4072 on: August 29, 2020, 01:08:29 AM »

Can tell he had a tough time with the RNC, as he's like a rabid dog off the lead tonight.

Fact checkers earning their overtime tonight, I'd guess Cheesy
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« Reply #4073 on: August 29, 2020, 01:09:51 AM »

Has to be a wind-up, they're playing him out with Village People Cheesy
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« Reply #4074 on: September 03, 2020, 03:00:32 PM »

Joe Kennedy III’ s “Same Policies As You” Run Falls Short As Ed Markey Holds On To Senate Seat

The Senate Primary race between Joe Kennedy III and Ed Markey has finished with a clear victory for Markey. No Kennedy had ever lost a State-wide election in Massachusetts and many thought that Markey would be forced to accept that his time was up, as a younger, more glamorous politician took his place. But he fought back hard, demonstrating that he is far from a spent force. He is still at the forefront of current issues, eg he was a co-sponsor of Medicare for All and co-authored the Green New Deal with AOC. Joe III attempted to represent himself as being more liberal than Markey, which just didn’t fly. The truth is that there are almost no policy differences between them and III was just trying to make a premature jump from the House to the Senate before a posse of rivals came to the starting line. He is first in line, but it could be tough going by the time Ed retires voluntarily, as others are also making their mark in the State.

Markey has been has been low-key compared with Massachusetts’ heavyweight Senators (JFK, Ted Kennedy, Paul Tsongas, John Kerry, Liz Warren), but points to over 500 pieces of legislation with his name attached across 44 years in Congress (House 37, Senate 7). Kennedy has attacked him for not being active enough in the State and not helping Dem candidates around the country in the expected manner and has highlighted several perceived issues in Markey’s long record. What he hasn’t done is identify what he is offering that is different.

Joe’s team tried to paint Ed as old guard being overtaken by a new generation, but it’s just not true – Markey did well amongst younger voters, who set up numerous real and fake Twitter and Instagram accounts in support (eg twitter.com/hotgirls4markey, twitter.com/edmarkeymemes, twitter.com/whyisjoerunning). JKIII also spoke disapprovingly about the “insider system” which rang hollow, considering that his main pitch seemed to be that he deserved the seat because he is a Kennedy.

Many Massachusetts politicians were favourably disposed to both runners and just left them to fight it out. John Kerry, Deval Patrick and Congressman Seth Moulton declined to take sides, as did AOC’s fellow Squad member Ayanna Pressley. Markey has quoted Liz Warren’s endorsement, but that was given before Joe pitched in, and she has kept her head down since, being close to both. But Markey’s resistance won support, not just from Lefties like AOC, but he was endorsed by the Boston Globe and seven Senators (including Chuck Schumer), while Kennedy just had one (right-wing semi-Republican Krysten Sinema). Nancy Pelosi made a late stand for Joe, which should have helped in an in-Party vote, but a lot of people had already made their minds up by then that his challenge was opportunistic, while Ed was still delivering in the role.

Early polls showed Joe far ahead, but they turned around during the Summer and several in the final month gave it to Ed by double digits. In the end, Markey locked up a decisive 56%-44% result, spoiling a 26-0 Kennedy winning run.

Between them, these two spent over $20m on an apparently meaningless contest. Kennedy’s ads were well received, but they look very like the parody ads, throwing in lots of template buzzwords and images.





Markey’s seemed more relevant – AOC made a decent one for him and then he brought out one that some have described as one of the best ever. I’m not sure it’s as good as that (the start is a bit slow), but it is powerful, illustrating his relevance in the past and still now, and ends with a killer line, given the Kennedy connection.





So where does that leave things? The fallout from this internal fight is significant:

- Joe’s not going to the Senate just yet, and may never get there. He was the rising star who gave the party’s response to Trump’s State of the Union address, and seen as a future Presidential contender. He tried to avoid his father’s fate of waiting too long in the House, but went too soon instead. When Ed does eventually step down, there will be other strong contenders, which is why he tried to secure his place at this stage. Joe had to give up his House seat to try for the Senate, so he has no position in the immediate future. He could try to regain his seat as a write-in candidate in November, but it seems more likely that he’ll sit it out. If Warren is called to the Cabinet, there will be a special election for her Senate seat, but that will be hotly contested. The most likely way forward from here may be a role in Biden’s Administration, though probably not in the Cabinet.

- Challenging an incumbent from within the party has long been taboo in both parties but that has been weakening, with left-wing candidates overcoming a number of long-standing Democrat Congressmen. The Democrat establishment has historically supported incumbents financially, and this year stated that any consultants assisting challengers would be black-listed, which is more serious than it sounds. Pelosi’s endorsement of Kennedy seems to fly in the face of her previous stance, and Progressives are taking it as a green light to Primary all and sundry.

- Ed is a liberal, but he hasn’t been as Progressive in the past as his current associates. If they have captured him as an ally, it may be a forerunner of others to come. The Tea Party’s success wasn’t achieved just by introducing new right-wing challengers – it also managed to turn existing Republican members of Congressmen who feared being challenged in their Districts if they didn’t fall in line. Progressives would be pleased to have a similar effect.
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« Reply #4075 on: September 03, 2020, 03:40:04 PM »

I saw that on Rising yesterday, and how Kennedy had a 28 point turnaround which seemed almost impossible. They said he managed to achieve the impossible, in getting beat as a Kennedy there Cheesy

Saw that Markey ad afterwards, thanks to autoplay, and thought it was good.

Surely he's best just taking a backseat for a term and letting it all blow over. That will surely be a bullet point everytime he runs for anything ever again 'Only Kennedy to ever lose in Massachusetts'.

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« Reply #4076 on: September 06, 2020, 12:59:50 PM »

Many people (including many in her own party) are uncomfortable about Marjorie Taylor Greene, the conspiracy spreader and QAnon supporter who secured the Republican nomination for Georgia's 14th Congressional District, which she is virtually certain to convert into a seat. They won't be feeling better about the prospect since Friday, when she posted on Facebook “Our country is on the line. America needs fighters who speak the truth. We need strong conservative Christians to go on the offense against these socialists who want to rip our country apart. Americans must take our country back.” It was accompanied by a picture of herself holding a gun next to photos of three Squad members (Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez). Ayanna Pressley must be feeling left out. FB removed the post for inciting violence.

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« Reply #4077 on: September 06, 2020, 07:54:48 PM »

Amazing people that out there can get that far in politics, though if you see don don in the chair, I guess it makes some sense.
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« Reply #4078 on: September 07, 2020, 12:56:15 AM »

There was another Trump Boat Parade at Lake Travis in Texas yesterday. Donald mentioned his support amongst the boat people a few weeks ago, though it wasn't really a lot to boast about - these people's values align closely with his rhetoric. If he didn't have them, he wouldn't have anyone.

The day started well, with the boats loaded with supporters, flags and Coors, and the flotilla was a wonderful sight as the crews competed to see who could attach the most flags and make their boat look most like a Chinese junk.

I have just skipped through this video of the parade but it looks great, and Trump clearly has strong support among certain groups. Some of the overheard comments show how different their culture is to ours.



Everyone was having a great day until they were maliciously attacked by the Antifa Navy, resulting in several boats not surviving and numerous others having a horrible experience. Some people have been saying that the wreckage at the end reflects the state of the campaign, but that seems unnecessarily cruel under the circumstances.

There is some footage of a sinking here: https://twitter.com/i/status/1302390359381733376

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And here is well-known MAGA supporter Brent Terhune lamenting the loss of his boat:

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« Reply #4079 on: September 07, 2020, 07:13:04 AM »

He almost had me, lol. He been doing this long, or did he spot what Sarah Cooper had done?

Presuming it's satire, and he's not a comedian Trump fan.
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