The Next President of the United States

[MintTrav]

The Sanders supporters are proving to be a bit of a problem at the Convention, booing whenever Hillary's name is mentioned. Bernie himself tried to control them at his pre-meeting and in his Convention speech, but they're not listening, even to him. The Clintonites are trying to drown them out with cheering, but it's a mess and it looks like this is going to continue throughout. Gratuitously insulting them from the platform, as Michelle Obama and others have done, ain't gonna help.

Would you say the booing was worse last night than at the RNC?

Of course most of the booing was at the Republican old Guard at the RNC, here it was at the presumptive nominee.

It depends on what we mean by 'worse'. I thought the GOP booing was just during the Cruz speech, plus the chaos on Day 1. Was there more that I missed? The Cruz booing was louder and more vicious, probably because the recipient was standing in front of them, and kind of goading them. But it was a one-off - most Trump-haters stayed away. The Dem booing is more sustained and could have a worse effect on the Convention.

Overall, it was a very good night for the Democrats. There was a succession of speakers from Hispanic backgrounds whose parents or themselves had been immigrants, some undocumented, a few of whom were now in Congress. There was a kid who was worried her family would be deported, with footage of Hillary telling her that she would do the worrying for her. There was a bunch of assorted politicians and several Presidents of various trade and teaching organisations (I didn't watch them). There was a disabled woman who had been to the White House as a kid and told how Hillary didn't leave it at that,  but kept in touch and helped her at various stages of her life - helping her get into mainstream education, then higher education and employment. She probably helped Hillary's image more than any of her heavyweight endorsements.

The big names included Michelle Obama, Cory Booker, Joe Kennedy, Elizabeth Warren and Sanders, and they were all incredibly good. Michelle can roll out an emotional, motivational, personal speech in her sleep by now. Having so many big-hitters just on Day 1, with so many more still to come, seemed a huge contrast to last week. The Republicans probably don't have as many household names, so having several likely headliners stay at home made it seem like they had to put out the second string at times, whereas this was star-time in comparison.

[Marky147]

The Sanders supporters are proving to be a bit of a problem at the Convention, booing whenever Hillary's name is mentioned. Bernie himself tried to control them at his pre-meeting and in his Convention speech, but they're not listening, even to him. The Clintonites are trying to drown them out with cheering, but it's a mess and it looks like this is going to continue throughout. Gratuitously insulting them from the platform, as Michelle Obama and others have done, ain't gonna help.

Would you say the booing was worse last night than at the RNC?

Of course most of the booing was at the Republican old Guard at the RNC, here it was at the presumptive nominee.

It depends on what we mean by 'worse'. I thought the GOP booing was just during the Cruz speech, plus the chaos on Day 1. Was there more that I missed? The Cruz booing was louder and more vicious, probably because the recipient was standing in front of them, and kind of goading them. But it was a one-off - most Trump-haters stayed away. The Dem booing is more sustained and could have a worse effect on the Convention.

Overall, it was a very good night for the Democrats. There was a succession of speakers from Hispanic backgrounds whose parents or themselves had been immigrants, some undocumented, a few of whom were now in Congress. There was a kid who was worried her family would be deported, with footage of Hillary telling her that she would do the worrying for her. There was a bunch of assorted politicians and several Presidents of various trade and teaching organisations (I didn't watch them). There was a disabled woman who had been to the White House as a kid and told how Hillary didn't leave it at that,  but kept in touch and helped her at various stages of her life - helping her get into mainstream education, then higher education and employment. She probably helped Hillary's image more than any of her heavyweight endorsements.

The big names included Michelle Obama, Cory Booker, Joe Kennedy, Elizabeth Warren and Sanders, and they were all incredibly good. Michelle can roll out an emotional, motivational, personal speech in her sleep by now. Having so many big-hitters just on Day 1, with so many more still to come, seemed a huge contrast to last week. The Republicans probably don't have as many household names, so having several likely headliners stay at home made it seem like they had to put out the second string at times, whereas this was star-time in comparison.

I saw Eva Longoria's, and Michelle Obama's, which where both very good.

I read an article saying that Trump having to wheel out his family to big him up, showed just how weak his support is.

Hopefully it is only a very small minority of Bernie supporters that actually don't vote for Hilary.

[MintTrav]

Hopefully it is only a very small minority of Bernie supporters that actually don't vote for Hilary.

I think Michael Moore made a good point in the piece linked by Tighty.  The majority of Sanders supporters will hold their nose and vote for Hillary in the end - the difference is that they won't be spending their time until then encouraging their family and everyone else to do the same.

[Marky147]

Hopefully it is only a very small minority of Bernie supporters that actually don't vote for Hilary.

I think Michael Moore made a good point in the piece linked by Tighty.  The majority of Sanders supporters will hold their nose and vote for Hillary in the end - the difference is that they won't be spending their time until then encouraging their family and everyone else to do the same.

We'll just have to live in hope, as I think it will be like something from a Tarantino movie if Trump wins.

[TightEnd]

Clinton fund raising email this week

[Rexas]

Picture of the sticker please

[Woodsey]

Shit that sounds desperate, reckon Trump will win if that's what they are resorting to...

[Marky147]

Watched the last Trump presser, and if it's possible, I think I'm even dumber for listening to him rattle on for 60 minutes...

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Donald Trump Has Turned the Republicans Into the Party of Russia

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/trump-russia/493298/

[Ironside]

love this video doing the rounds on facebook

https://www.facebook.com/omgcheckthis/videos/842986365831253/

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Reminds me of a song by Simon and Garfunkel.