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« Reply #1635 on: January 28, 2017, 03:05:37 PM »

Can someone point out the differences  between Trump and Hitler's first days in power?

(Other than Hitler being a bit more modest, subtle and diplomatic that is).

Hitler wasn't having every move closely scrutinised by a billion people on facebook would be first on my list.




not exactly what I was asking but a great point all the same.
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« Reply #1636 on: January 28, 2017, 05:01:52 PM »

Is he just signing all these orders to give himself a freeroll with the public?

Don't the senate/house have to vote, and if they get rejected and he can say 'I tried people, they blocked me'

They don't have to go through Congress - the Prez has delegated authority from Congress to make Executive Orders in certain areas. He has extensive powers to act alone, but in a limited number of areas. Most areas of government still have to go through Congress.

Executive Orders can be challenged in court as being in conflict with the Constitution or existing legislation, and this has been done successfully a few times, with Orders being overturned. The Council on American-Islamic Relations has said it will file a federal lawsuit on Monday against the 'Muslim Ban' Order.
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« Reply #1637 on: January 28, 2017, 05:14:17 PM »

Can someone point out the differences  between Trump and Hitler's first days in power?

(Other than Hitler being a bit more modest, subtle and diplomatic that is).

Hitler wasn't having every move closely scrutinised by a billion people on facebook would be first on my list.



Adolf Hitler does however have several Twitter accounts.
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« Reply #1638 on: January 28, 2017, 05:16:10 PM »

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« Reply #1639 on: January 28, 2017, 05:26:18 PM »

LOL, that should be an interesting discussion.


Is he just signing all these orders to give himself a freeroll with the public?

Don't the senate/house have to vote, and if they get rejected and he can say 'I tried people, they blocked me'

They don't have to go through Congress - the Prez has delegated authority from Congress to make Executive Orders in certain areas. He has extensive powers to act alone, but in a limited number of areas. Most areas of government still have to go through Congress.

Executive Orders can be challenged in court as being in conflict with the Constitution or existing legislation, and this has been done successfully a few times, with Orders being overturned. The Council on American-Islamic Relations has said it will file a federal lawsuit on Monday against the 'Muslim Ban' Order.


Be funny to watch Trump's toys come out when he can't get his own way.
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« Reply #1640 on: January 28, 2017, 06:16:49 PM »

Stev Job's dad was a Syrian immigrant to the USA, I would not be reading this thread on my iPad if this policy was in place when he arrived.
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« Reply #1641 on: January 29, 2017, 11:46:56 AM »

Some of the airport stories about the slim ban are utterly horrific.

The first two refugees kept out of America by President Trump's order are Iraqis who helped US troops survive during the war.

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« Reply #1642 on: January 29, 2017, 11:48:10 AM »

 US airports on frontline as Donald Trump's travel ban causes chaos and protests

Homeland security says green card holders included while ACLU files lawsuit after two Iraqi men detained at New York’s JFK airport despite having valid visas

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/28/airports-us-immigration-ban-muslim-countries-trump?CMP=twt_gu
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« Reply #1643 on: January 29, 2017, 11:49:15 AM »

this was an oft used image yesterday

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i know there are nuances not indicated in the image, but of course they do business with saudi, uae etc
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« Reply #1644 on: January 29, 2017, 11:52:31 AM »

this was an oft used image yesterday

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i know there are nuances not indicated in the image, but of course they do business with saudi, uae etc

Yeah this is the most pertinent thing for me, the countries not included in the ban. Not sure what old Orange face is doing, my gut says probably trying to appease people who voted for him on this policy issue knowing it is likely it would get overturned, so he can say "I tried folks".
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« Reply #1645 on: January 29, 2017, 12:31:18 PM »

Mo Farah is currently winter training in Africa

born in Somalia, UK national. has a home in Oregon where he trains

allowed back in or not? probably not, right?
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« Reply #1646 on: January 29, 2017, 12:57:32 PM »

or put another way

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i am not normally the first person to be "liberal" but the whole thing is just yuk
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« Reply #1647 on: January 29, 2017, 01:05:01 PM »

it's ok Bannons on the NSC and the Joint chief of staffs have been devalued.

I'm sure Trump knows exactly what he's doing. No chance Bannon has his hand up him playing him like a puppet.

Absolute disgrace to the world, but not really expecting much less of America now.


Are all the Brits proud of Theresa being so desperate to make friends and speak good of him?


I did lol at the All lives not just Jews matter response to not talking about the events of the holocaust on memorial day. Definitely not Bannon exerting influence once again.....



 
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« Reply #1648 on: January 29, 2017, 01:44:21 PM »

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« Reply #1649 on: January 29, 2017, 02:04:35 PM »

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This is my biggest concern - a millionaire British athlete who doesn't want to live here. Really trivialises the real issue - I do hope Mo manages to get back into the states -I has a feeling he will and then I guess we can all see that there is no problem at all now Mo's OK
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