NFL 2017-18 season

[Tal]

just after the half way point of the season

the Patriots look the class of the field

lots of mediocre teams, when i looked 5 of the 8 divisions didn't have more than one winning team


if you had to name the superbowl sides now, you would suggest which two teams?

expect the NFC responses to have a wider spread than the AFC responses

I reckon the Raiders have the kind of team that could upset the applecart in Foxboro. What a game that would be for the pennant.

In the NFC goodness knows. Pete Carroll will probably do his playoff thing, so I'm looking elsewhere. Dallas look good but it could be Romo in the playoffs and who know where that takes them. Right now, I'd say Atlanta.

Wouldn't need to work hard to sell tickets to Oakland v Atlanta!

Can't have Altanta on my mind. Defense is bordering on terrible.

Oakland's secondary is very exploitable too.

Atlanta have a pass rush. 9 sacks in their last three games. They just have to be mediocre on that side of the ball to win games. Quinn has got the offense working and not reliant on Julio.

Oakland have the best pass protecting offensive line in football, per Football Outsiders. The best.

It's a great year for the pundits. No one has a clue, apart from everyone saying the New England Trumps.

Tal, your SF bet needs some help.

Where are Cleveland going to get a couple of wins from?

Of the two, I'd say San Francisco are more likely to tank this season (trade their few assets for picks, make sure Chip goes back to college, just give up...) than the Browns, who are developing a philosophy and have looked good for three quarters of games of late. They should have beaten the Jets. They just need to have the same barely competent quarterback for two consecutive games...

Ladbrokes are:

10/11 Cleveland
7/4 San Fran

Quite happy with my 7/1 ticket thank you.

[The Camel]

i had seahawks v raiders in mind

seahawks competitive even while Russell has been on one leg. the running game will come around when wilson can run again and rawls is back, graham is firing too and the defense is built for post season

obviously the pats are likely to have to be beaten in foxboro in the play offs. maybe the chiefs can do that but as long as the raiders defense continues to improve then that offense can put up a lot of points on anybody. good OL, good running game, good receivers, gunslinger quarterback etc

Not sure the running backs are the problem in Seattle.

Buffalo have the 20th best rush defense in the league yet on traditional running plays Seattle gained 10 yards on 9 attempts. The offensive line just opened up no holes.

[TightEnd]

i had seahawks v raiders in mind

seahawks competitive even while Russell has been on one leg. the running game will come around when wilson can run again and rawls is back, graham is firing too and the defense is built for post season

obviously the pats are likely to have to be beaten in foxboro in the play offs. maybe the chiefs can do that but as long as the raiders defense continues to improve then that offense can put up a lot of points on anybody. good OL, good running game, good receivers, gunslinger quarterback etc

Not sure the running backs are the problem in Seattle.

Buffalo have the 20th best rush defense in the league yet on traditional running plays Seattle gained 10 yards on 9 attempts. The offensive line just opened up no holes.

yes you are right. what i meant was that when wilson is able to run properly he has to be accounted for, which means there is a hole or two more than when you have 8 people keying in on christine michael etc

it would also help if tyler lockett was fit and able to contribute fully too, to open things up a bit

[Stopsleyhatter]

just after the half way point of the season

the Patriots look the class of the field

lots of mediocre teams, when i looked 5 of the 8 divisions didn't have more than one winning team


if you had to name the superbowl sides now, you would suggest which two teams?

expect the NFC responses to have a wider spread than the AFC responses

I reckon the Raiders have the kind of team that could upset the applecart in Foxboro. What a game that would be for the pennant.

In the NFC goodness knows. Pete Carroll will probably do his playoff thing, so I'm looking elsewhere. Dallas look good but it could be Romo in the playoffs and who know where that takes them. Right now, I'd say Atlanta.

Wouldn't need to work hard to sell tickets to Oakland v Atlanta!

Can't have Altanta on my mind. Defense is bordering on terrible.

Oakland's secondary is very exploitable too.

Atlanta have a pass rush. 9 sacks in their last three games. They just have to be mediocre on that side of the ball to win games. Quinn has got the offense working and not reliant on Julio.

Oakland have the best pass protecting offensive line in football, per Football Outsiders. The best.

It's a great year for the pundits. No one has a clue, apart from everyone saying the New England Trumps.

Tal, your SF bet needs some help.

Where are Cleveland going to get a couple of wins from?

Of the two, I'd say San Francisco are more likely to tank this season (trade their few assets for picks, make sure Chip goes back to college, just give up...) than the Browns, who are developing a philosophy and have looked good for three quarters of games of late. They should have beaten the Jets. They just need to have the same barely competent quarterback for two consecutive games...

Ladbrokes are:

10/11 Cleveland
7/4 San Fran

Quite happy with my 7/1 ticket thank you.

Will be cheering on the Browns for you tonight tal..

[The Camel]

i had seahawks v raiders in mind

seahawks competitive even while Russell has been on one leg. the running game will come around when wilson can run again and rawls is back, graham is firing too and the defense is built for post season

obviously the pats are likely to have to be beaten in foxboro in the play offs. maybe the chiefs can do that but as long as the raiders defense continues to improve then that offense can put up a lot of points on anybody. good OL, good running game, good receivers, gunslinger quarterback etc

Not sure the running backs are the problem in Seattle.

Buffalo have the 20th best rush defense in the league yet on traditional running plays Seattle gained 10 yards on 9 attempts. The offensive line just opened up no holes.

yes you are right. what i meant was that when wilson is able to run properly he has to be accounted for, which means there is a hole or two more than when you have 8 people keying in on christine michael etc

it would also help if tyler lockett was fit and able to contribute fully too, to open things up a bit

Wilson moved better on Monday than he has done all season, I think he's close to full fitness.

[KarmaDope]

Whilst I'd love to see my Raiders in the Superbowl, I think we're a year or two off. Need to sort out that secondary.

Pats vs Seahawks for me.

[bobby1]

I think Kansas are a better team than Oakland and with Denver D banged up, struggling to run the ball and TS a middle of the road QB I can see Kansas going deep into the play offs. Going to be tough to get Pats out of a top 2 seed in the AFC tho.

In the NFC not sure Seattle are close to their best of 2-3 seasons ago and they have had a soft schedule so far. Zona should have beaten them, Bills had every chance to beat them this week too. O line is terrible, meaning the running game is struggling, thankfully Wilson looked far fitter this week but he's going to work with a set of unproven rbs and two genuine pass catching threats. He's going to have to do a lot.

Arizona are my best result and I actually topped up at 44 last week. Been banged up at QB WR and on D at various times during first 9 weeks and missed a FG to beat New Eng and a FG to beat Seattle too but coming off a bye to rest up I'm hopeful they can finish strongly. In general I'm not rushing to get with Carson Palmer but do think they are a more balanced/have more options side than Seattle. think their record is misleading at the mo. Wouldn't be amazed to see Carolina win the South either. Dallas looking good but tho their record is impressive that Div looks like a any team can beat the other and Dallas have had a nice soft out of Div schedule bar the Green Bay game.

So maybe a Pats v Zona SB.

[TightEnd]

the reason i ask is this



it looks like the Pats, but if it isn't...

[Cavey007]

Without wanting to sound stupid. What's the +400 or what have you?

Got a few very speculative anytime scorers for the weekend already. Bryce Treggs at Phillie 10/1. Cordarelle Patterson. Viks 4/1. Damien Williams Mia 5/1. Then a couple for Monday Paul Perkins 5/1 and Roger Lewis 14/1 (Lewis won't be that if Cruz doesn't train today)

[TightEnd]

Without wanting to sound stupid. What's the +400 or what have you?

American odds

https://www.pinnacle.com/en/betting-articles/educational/odds-formats-available-at-pinnacle-sports

+400 is 4/1

[TightEnd]

Boom! A classic in Pittsburgh. Zekeeeee

[Cavey007]

Boom! A classic in Pittsburgh. Zekeeeee

I get the feeling he's going to be rather good.

What a weekend of football all round (well except the Jets v Rams as expected) I did terribly bad on my bets for the weekend. But some brilliant matches. Not sure what happened with Arizona struggling that much against the Niners. Chargers lose by a score with a late pick 6 against them. Seahawks possibly back to what we expect? Although they seem to have got away with a pass interference call again at the end of the match. Cowboys v Seahawks would be a heck of a matchup in the conference title match. The Titans won. And look like the best all round team in the AFC south which is still led by the stinking Texans. Falcons lost. Panthers threw away a 17 pt lead.

Amazing weekend 

I could do with Paul Perkins or especially Roger Lewis scoring tonight for my bets. Then the Bengals still winning for them to go to 2nd in the AFC North. They've still got to play the Ravens twice some how. So that division is wide open still

[TightEnd]

Seahawks-Patriots was a brilliant game too. 6 lead changes in that one

a really good NFL weekend

[the sicilian]

Was a wild weekend indeed.. epitomized by the saints game.. needing over 24 points for the saints to bring in a nice bet I was praying for the blocked extra point.. Ecstasy to misery in 8 seconds as they block the kick and then run it back for a game killing 2 points.

Falcons crashing did me ill.. but Dallas and titans helped me out

[Cavey007]

The Bengals stunk again last night. Couple of big plays. And started the second half well. Managed to establish a run game, then for some reason went away from it and completely flopped in the 4th quarter. The OL was shocking. Giants started the night second worst in sacks. Bengals just let them stroll through. Summed up by this photo... https://mobile.twitter.com/KJS_football_78/status/798390566379786240/photo/1

Mcadoo going for it on 4th wouldn't have happened from Marvin. He'd of taken the 3. The end of the first half especially showed a complete lack of urgency. 40 seconds and a time out (or two) left with the ball and they ran down the clock and took the half time. I think they went 1/10 or close to that on 3rd downs. Defence wasn't exactly great either. Allowed the Giants their most rushing of the season. Although Burfict and Atkins did quite well.

But luckily the AFC North is "butt" this year. So they're actually only 1.5 games behind the Ravens and have to play them twice. Hopefully AJ greens ankle injury isn't too bad and he'll be a go against the Bills on Sunday