Adam Johnson`

[Karabiner]

I would never have guessed that the age of consent is 14 in almost half of Europe.

[PokerBroker]

I would never have guessed that the age of consent is 14 in almost half of Europe.

They are far more liberal in most European countries about things such as sex/alcohol/drugs and they tend not to have as many problems as we have.   

Yet by the age of 14 - 15 I'd estimate that the majority of youngsters have either drank, taken recreational drugs or had a sexual experience.   

[KarmaDope]

6 years is utterly ridic. Look at the sentences of footballers in recent times

Ched Evans, rape, pleaded not guilty throughout. 3 years, was it? out in nearly 2?

Jordan Robertson killed family in drink driving incident, 32 months.

Adam Johnson has some sort of sexual intention with someone 15 and eventually pleads guilty. Gets 6 years. In my eyes, his offence was the least serious, imo.

Jordan Robertson killed one person in a death by dangerous driving incident.  I think you have the wrong footballer/sentence. His sentence seems in line with the guidelines.  I am not sure how it compares, as the other two offences were intentional, yet Mr Robertson appears to have killed someone while distracted.  I don't want to diminish the death of someone here, but there can't be a driver who hasn't done something stupid whilst distracted. 

i think he means Luke McCormick.

FYP.

[TightEnd]

6 years is utterly ridic. Look at the sentences of footballers in recent times

Ched Evans, rape, pleaded not guilty throughout. 3 years, was it? out in nearly 2?

Jordan Robertson killed family in drink driving incident, 32 months.

Adam Johnson has some sort of sexual intention with someone 15 and eventually pleads guilty. Gets 6 years. In my eyes, his offence was the least serious, imo.

Jordan Robertson killed one person in a death by dangerous driving incident.  I think you have the wrong footballer/sentence. His sentence seems in line with the guidelines.  I am not sure how it compares, as the other two offences were intentional, yet Mr Robertson appears to have killed someone while distracted.  I don't want to diminish the death of someone here, but there can't be a driver who hasn't done something stupid whilst distracted. 

i think he means Luke McCormick.

FYP.

Thank you yes, the Plymouth goalkeeper

[david3103]

Bemused by this discussion. He didn't get six years just because of what he did sexually with the girl.

The judge made it crystal clear that he maxed it because Johnson denied what happened for so long, leading to her being bullied live and online and causing her to develop psychological problems. The judge's comments are in all the reports.

Well said

The girl took an overdose which reports suggest could on another day have killed her. I imagine she will have to move area completely to try and avoid anymore abuse though even that probably wont help

Come on now, that can't be blamed on Johnson. 

This girl knew full well where this was going, if you read those text messages/whatsapp if she felt in danger at anytime she should have approached someone.   

A 15 year old girl not asking for help shocker...

Maybe help wasn't required, ffs she had a bit of a play about with a footballer probably the fantasy of most 15 year old girls.  

Are you saying you weren't sexually active at 15?   What if it had been a 17 year old footballer who was about to make it, would it have made any difference?

Are you suggesting that she 'asked for it'?
World of difference between the fantasies of a 15yr old and the reality of being groped in a car parked in a dark corner...

Deserved what?  from what I can see she was willing to go along with it all.   Had she been 12 I'd have been like life for the scumbag, but the majority of 1 year olds are sexually active these days.  They know what is going on. 

Nobody, regardless of age ever deserves to be abused or to "ask for it".   

Where does the word 'deserved' come into this?

who says she was willing? How much of her willingness stemmed from the exalted position that Johnson held?

Saville, Hall, Harris all played on their place in the entertainment business, how is this different?

[Karabiner]

I think that the married shoolteacher Jeremy Forrest who ran off to France with his sixteen-year-old pupil having kissed her at fourteen and started having sex with her at fifteen is an interesting comparison.

I would say that what he did is far worse as far as grooming and abusing his position is concerned, yet he only received a five and a half year sentence.

[Jon MW]

I think that the married shoolteacher Jeremy Forrest who ran off to France with his sixteen-year-old pupil having kissed her at fourteen and started having sex with her at fifteen is an interesting comparison.

I would say that what he did is far worse as far as grooming and abusing his position is concerned, yet he only received a five and a half year sentence.

IIRC there is some part of sentencing where a guilty plea automatically cuts the sentence that is available. I assume that would have been the situation for that case.

The problem in comparing any sentencing is that length of jail time is a very crude instrument - there's no way you could take into account the severity of every single crime plus the guilt or remorse of the perpetrator plus the effect on the victim plus any other mitigating factors and come up with a single length of jail time figure which would compare with every other situation and not have some which look disproportionately easy or severe.

[MintTrav]

One thing I was surprised at was that he had been arrested previously for having animal porn. Didn't know that was illegal. Unless pain is inflicted, I'm not sure why it should be.

[hhyftrftdr]

One thing I was surprised at was that he had been arrested previously for having animal porn. Didn't know that was illegal. Unless pain is inflicted, I'm not sure why it should be.

Perhaps its worse, maybe Johnson thought she was 15 in dogs years.

[George2Loose]

One thing I was surprised at was that he had been arrested previously for having animal porn. Didn't know that was illegal. Unless pain is inflicted, I'm not sure why it should be.

Is this a level?

[OverTheBorder]

One thing I was surprised at was that he had been arrested previously for having animal porn. Didn't know that was illegal. Unless pain is inflicted, I'm not sure why it should be.

Is this a level?

Guessing he doesn't realise animal porn involves humans!!!

[Karabiner]

One thing I was surprised at was that he had been arrested previously for having animal porn. Didn't know that was illegal. Unless pain is inflicted, I'm not sure why it should be.

Is this a level?

Animal porn is freely available* from all good pornagents.

Doubt very much whether it's illegal to own it.

*When I say freely available, a magazine with erotic video offerings that I came across a year or two back had a small section offering videos involving animals.

[StuartHopkin]

One thing I was surprised at was that he had been arrested previously for having animal porn. Didn't know that was illegal. Unless pain is inflicted, I'm not sure why it should be.

Is this a level?

Animal porn is freely available* from all good pornagents.

Doubt very much whether it's illegal to own it.

*When I say freely available, a magazine with erotic video offerings that I came across a year or two back had a small section offering videos involving animals.

Best post ever Ralph you Beastiality expert!!

[hhyftrftdr]

One thing I was surprised at was that he had been arrested previously for having animal porn. Didn't know that was illegal. Unless pain is inflicted, I'm not sure why it should be.

Is this a level?

Animal porn is freely available* from all good pornagents.

Doubt very much whether it's illegal to own it.

*When I say freely available, a magazine with erotic video offerings that I came across a year or two back had a small section offering videos involving animals.

For want of a better expression?

[celtic]

❤️ Ralph