2016/17 rumourmill and confirmed transfers

[Karabiner]

Leicester are going to be competitive. People don't get it yet. Still we got 10m over the release clause, turned 25m in a year and won the league. We go again.

I just don't see it, I'm sorry, but you can't run that far over EV again and Kante was important.

Musa looks impressive and fast though, I'd imagine teams will somehow wake up and work out that with him and Vardy they must sit deep as it's going to be even more over the top than last year.

Defence will stay solid, I'd imagine 8th best case, 12th Likely.

But you'll always have that 1 year!

Two ageing night-club bouncers are hardly likely to have back to back career seasons imho.

Especially with the legs that covered them gone.

[Tal]

Leicester are going to be competitive. People don't get it yet. Still we got 10m over the release clause, turned 25m in a year and won the league. We go again.

I just don't see it, I'm sorry, but you can't run that far over EV again and Kante was important.

Musa looks impressive and fast though, I'd imagine teams will somehow wake up and work out that with him and Vardy they must sit deep as it's going to be even more over the top than last year.

Defence will stay solid, I'd imagine 8th best case, 12th Likely.

But you'll always have that 1 year!

Two ageing night-club bouncers are hardly likely to have back to back career seasons imho.

Especially with the legs that covered them gone.

I know but they're talking about Leicester, not Arsenal.

[arbboy]

fred got a cracking bet on Leics going down at 33/1 though that's the main thing.  

I would love the bet David3103 mentioned the other day at evens on the big 6 all finishing above Leics.  That looks a cracking bet.

[Karabiner]

Leicester are going to be competitive. People don't get it yet. Still we got 10m over the release clause, turned 25m in a year and won the league. We go again.

I just don't see it, I'm sorry, but you can't run that far over EV again and Kante was important.

Musa looks impressive and fast though, I'd imagine teams will somehow wake up and work out that with him and Vardy they must sit deep as it's going to be even more over the top than last year.

Defence will stay solid, I'd imagine 8th best case, 12th Likely.

But you'll always have that 1 year!

Two ageing night-club bouncers are hardly likely to have back to back career seasons imho.

Especially with the legs that covered them gone.

I know but they're talking about Leicester, not Arsenal.

Hopefully we've not lost any of our DM legs while i wasn't paying attention.

Meanwhile I can only imagine tomorrow's back pages: Conte signs Kante for ****s.

[T8MML]

Kante to Chelsea for £30m. Great signing, Chelsea going to be strong again this year.

Homesick, so I guess this gets him a bit closer to France.

Chelsea concern me more than anyone this season; Conte, no Euro football, some good new additions....

Makes little sense to me. A superb player for Leicester and loved by the supporters. Of all the clubs chasing him Chelsea weren't even on my radar. No Champions League etc etc.

Maybe just didn't fancy all the extra games this year. Will be sorely missed.

Makes more sense to join a team who is going to be competitive at the top for the foreseeable future than stay at Leicester surely? Don't think it matters that much for teams who are going to be out of it for 1 year max.

Chelsea top four next season? A tough call me thinks but we'll see. Of course all those who were writing Leicester off every month last season are already starting now. Hilarious

[hhyftrftdr]

Kante to Chelsea for £30m. Great signing, Chelsea going to be strong again this year.

Homesick, so I guess this gets him a bit closer to France.

Chelsea concern me more than anyone this season; Conte, no Euro football, some good new additions....

Makes little sense to me. A superb player for Leicester and loved by the supporters. Of all the clubs chasing him Chelsea weren't even on my radar. No Champions League etc etc.

Maybe just didn't fancy all the extra games this year. Will be sorely missed.

Makes more sense to join a team who is going to be competitive at the top for the foreseeable future than stay at Leicester surely? Don't think it matters that much for teams who are going to be out of it for 1 year max.

Chelsea top four next season? A tough call me thinks but we'll see. Of course all those who were writing Leicester off every month last season are already starting now. Hilarious

You're not writing Leicester off for the title? Or top 4?

[T8MML]

Kante to Chelsea for £30m. Great signing, Chelsea going to be strong again this year.

Homesick, so I guess this gets him a bit closer to France.

Chelsea concern me more than anyone this season; Conte, no Euro football, some good new additions....

Makes little sense to me. A superb player for Leicester and loved by the supporters. Of all the clubs chasing him Chelsea weren't even on my radar. No Champions League etc etc.

Maybe just didn't fancy all the extra games this year. Will be sorely missed.

Makes more sense to join a team who is going to be competitive at the top for the foreseeable future than stay at Leicester surely? Don't think it matters that much for teams who are going to be out of it for 1 year max.

Chelsea top four next season? A tough call me thinks but we'll see. Of course all those who were writing Leicester off every month last season are already starting now. Hilarious

You're not writing Leicester off for the title? Or top 4?

Don't really see why you should tbh. Their stats for the last 18 months are there for all to see. Yes it will be tough, very tough, but current form suggests to write them off just because "it's Leicester" is a bit harsh. After all you don't win the Prem by ten clear points without something about you, do you?

[POWWWWWWWW]

They've just sold their best player and the teams around them have improved a lot, both players and managers. Not writing them off just because they're Leicester, just don't think they've got one of the best squads in the league.

[arbboy]

They've just sold their best player and the teams around them have improved a lot, both players and managers. Not writing them off just because they're Leicester, just don't think they've got one of the best squads in the league.

Plus two of the key 'big 6' have no european commitments next year and Leics now do so there is that huge double whammy.  On top of the most key player leaving (more might follow) plus Morgan and Huth can't possibly improve next year (even if they stood still they would regress because of their ages).  Morgan at the back end of next season must be the worst 'top half' starting centre half by a mile surely?

Bet365 have 3/1 Leicester bottom half finish which looks plenty big enough to smash into imo.  Not looking forward to Tighty being asked to back it on TFT (he has an out because fred can't get on at 365).

Sky are happy to lay 4/11 for the top half finish for any ISA punters out there who can get on and just nick 2% risk free tax free.

[fatcatstu]

http://www.sportingindex.com/spread-betting/football/domestic-premier-league/group_a.cb7d795c-c691-45dd-b8a2-0b6364afe443/premier-league-points-2016-17

Looks like we will be getting odds against West Ham v Leicester in a season long match bet. Stoke's points look too low again.  Couldn't imagine selling at 44 and expecting to make a profit.  Looks pretty risk free to me buying at 45.5.

Can you explain that site for us simpletons please?

That has boro in the bottom 3, with the signings we are about to make (all done barring medicals and work permits) I fully expect us to be ahead of Burnley, Hull, Sunderland, Bournemouth, Watford, West Brom, and around Stoke and Palace.

[arbboy]

http://www.sportingindex.com/spread-betting/football/domestic-premier-league/group_a.cb7d795c-c691-45dd-b8a2-0b6364afe443/premier-league-points-2016-17

Looks like we will be getting odds against West Ham v Leicester in a season long match bet. Stoke's points look too low again.  Couldn't imagine selling at 44 and expecting to make a profit.  Looks pretty risk free to me buying at 45.5.

Can you explain that site for us simpletons please?

That has boro in the bottom 3, with the signings we are about to make (all done barring medicals and work permits) I fully expect us to be ahead of Burnley, Hull, Sunderland, Bournemouth, Watford, West Brom, and around Stoke and Palace.

You will be able to make a lot of money then if your predictions are right as Mboro are the clear 3rd fav in the lowest points total estimated for next season.   That link is simply a prediction of how many points each team will get next season.  You can buy or sell each teams quote at the respective prices.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation

Much simpler terms you are clear 3rd favs to be relegated in the fixed odds world (which is totally linked to the spread betting prices)

[fatcatstu]

So I would buy or sell?

Think with the signings we have/are about to make, we should be looking about 12th-14th place realistically.

Valdes, Subotic, Negredo, de Roon, Ramirez are all players that would get into the first team of most of the clubs I mentioned above, along with some cracking young talent too, I think we are being massively underrated, or the markets will shift a lot once the signings are confirmed.

[arbboy]

So I would buy or sell?

Think with the signings we have/are about to make, we should be looking about 12th place realistically.

Valdes, Subotic, Negredo, de Roon, Ramirez are all players that would get into the first team of most of the clubs I mentioned above, along with some cracking young talent too, I think we are being massively underrated, or the markets will shift a lot once the signings are confirmed.

Newcastle spent £85m last summer just to temper your bullishness for a minute!  These markets can obviously be wrong.  They had Villa in for the same point totals as Leicester this time last year just for comparison.

[fatcatstu]

So I would buy or sell?

Think with the signings we have/are about to make, we should be looking about 12th place realistically.

Valdes, Subotic, Negredo, de Roon, Ramirez are all players that would get into the first team of most of the clubs I mentioned above, along with some cracking young talent too, I think we are being massively underrated, or the markets will shift a lot once the signings are confirmed.

Newcastle spent £85m last summer just to temper your bullishness for a minute!  These markets can obviously be wrong.  They had Villa in for the same point totals as Leicester this time last year just for comparison.

Aye I realise that I just think we are buying quality at the minute, and doing better business than the teams around us.

We will have a tough defence, and are doing some good strengthening going forward too, and I honestly don't think that the rest of the teams have that much in them.

As I proved last season, I definitely suffer from rampant optimism when it comes to Boro.

I have no clue how to do these bets though, so will probably just stick to simple, less scary stuff!

[arbboy]

So I would buy or sell?

Think with the signings we have/are about to make, we should be looking about 12th place realistically.

Valdes, Subotic, Negredo, de Roon, Ramirez are all players that would get into the first team of most of the clubs I mentioned above, along with some cracking young talent too, I think we are being massively underrated, or the markets will shift a lot once the signings are confirmed.

Newcastle spent £85m last summer just to temper your bullishness for a minute!  These markets can obviously be wrong.  They had Villa in for the same point totals as Leicester this time last year just for comparison.

Aye I realise that I just think we are buying quality at the minute, and doing better business than the teams around us.

We will have a tough defence, and are doing some good strengthening going forward too, and I honestly don't think that the rest of the teams have that much in them.

As I proved last season, I definitely suffer from rampant optimism when it comes to Boro.

I have no clue how to do these bets though, so will probably just stick to simple, less scary stuff!

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/to-stay-up

The easiest way and most simple way (and profitable way) is to simply smash into Mboro at 8/13 to stay up they are shorter than 4/7 to stay up on betfair.    Going to actually post this on tft now as a decent bet!  Cheers for making me look!