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« Reply #180 on: December 09, 2016, 10:12:17 AM »

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« Reply #181 on: December 09, 2016, 12:04:35 PM »

the difference in the quality of the spin attacks is making it look like the pitch has flattened out

India bat all day tomorrow and lead, maybe.
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« Reply #182 on: December 09, 2016, 03:36:12 PM »

the difference in the quality of the spin attacks is making it look like the pitch has flattened out

India bat all day tomorrow and lead, maybe.

Yep.  Spinners being shown up.  So would most countries mind. Early days buts ashwin and jadeja will be even more of a handful 2nd time around
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« Reply #183 on: December 11, 2016, 10:24:40 AM »

Sigh 230-2 to 249-5

Its already spinning and going through the top. 350 might be a winning score, but got to get there first

Rashid at 5/2 a bet for top England wicket taker?

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« Reply #184 on: December 11, 2016, 10:47:04 AM »

Sigh 230-2 to 249-5

Its already spinning and going through the top. 350 might be a winning score, but got to get there first

Rashid at 5/2 a bet for top England wicket taker?

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« Reply #185 on: December 11, 2016, 08:52:55 PM »

Sigh 230-2 to 249-5

Its already spinning and going through the top. 350 might be a winning score, but got to get there first

Rashid at 5/2 a bet for top England wicket taker?

currently a bet in any innings of this series. Could be especially so on this pitch which has spun more on the first day than the previous three pitches in the series

He has 18 wickets in 3 games, next highest is 7

Cook has been bowling Moeen less, the team has dropped the third spinner too. So as long as England don't take early wickets, Rashid should be a good favourite

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« Reply #186 on: December 11, 2016, 09:01:10 PM »

No one has won a test in india since we last won the series over there. we went expecting to get hammered every test, and we havent. yes we will probably lose 3-1 or 4-0 but we have competed for long periods in each test, and just been let down because India, in their own conditions are just far superior to everyone ekse. We have put up a better fight than the aussies and the saffas, who were completely battered.

Side for first test this summer assuming all fit?

Cook
Hameed
Jennings
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Rashid
Broad
Anderson

Thats what id go with, Rashid has proved he is a good bowler this tour, and offers something different. No point picking 5 seamers, one just wont bowl if you have Jimmy, Broady, Stokes and Woakes plus one other. only other option could be to bat Buttler 7, and Ali 8 and drop Rashid, but i like the balance of it wtith the leggie in the team
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« Reply #187 on: December 12, 2016, 01:13:50 AM »

Would love to find a way of getting Mark Wood into that team if fully fit. Maybe some sort of rotation between Ando Broard Wood and Woakes.
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« Reply #188 on: December 12, 2016, 01:22:34 AM »

Stokes seems too high at 6 given Hameed and Jennings relative inexperience plus not sure we need to find room for both Rashid and Moeen on English pitches. I'd probably drop Moeen for Duckett or someone similar given Root can bowl reasonable offies if required, not that i'd expect him to much given England's forte is definitely pace at home.
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« Reply #189 on: December 12, 2016, 11:16:13 AM »

Gonna depend on the captaincy I think. If Cook remains skipper, Root going back to 4 gives room for him to bowl more spin. If he takes over as Captain, can't see him bowling much.

Seamers should be rotated somewhat, all of them at an age where injuries play a part
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« Reply #190 on: December 12, 2016, 11:48:34 AM »

Doubt Rashid plays in home tests. Spinner at home is more used for control, Moeen fits that role better than Rashid. Hameed and Jennings look ready, so that solves some problems. For me it's just who you bat at 7. Do you want a keeper so Bairstow can just concentrate on his batting? majority of candiates are actually keepers haha, Billings, Buttler, Duckett etc.

Cook
Hammed
Jennings
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
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Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson

In home conditions, the rest will take the burden and should allow Hammed/Jennings/your number 7 to bed in. Wood would certainly challenge if fit, but at the moment he's far too injury prone. Shame, as he's a real handful. Other bowlers like Finn, Ball, TRJ are back-up/rotation. First test of the summer is later due to hosting champions trophy so players will have a chance to state their case in county games prior.
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« Reply #191 on: December 12, 2016, 11:55:30 AM »

Mark Wood, if fit, please

4 seamers plus Moeen as the stock bowler

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« Reply #192 on: December 12, 2016, 09:29:05 PM »

Mark Wood, if fit, please

4 seamers plus Moeen as the stock bowler



Mark wood is a must when fit the attack has been missing a proper fast bowler for the last 4 years the missing piece and you only need to one spinner at home unless it's a real turner,everyone seems to pointing the fingers at the bowling but it's the batting thats the big letdown this winter
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« Reply #193 on: December 12, 2016, 11:52:20 PM »

Mark Wood, if fit, please

4 seamers plus Moeen as the stock bowler



yeah but its not 4 seamers is it... its 5with stokes. wood anderson broad woaks and stokes, too many, one would never bowl! think buttler ha done enough so far to warrant his spot come the summer
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« Reply #194 on: December 13, 2016, 06:59:43 AM »

I think England should give some consideration to playing Buttler as a keeper and allowing Johnny Bairstow to concentrate on batting. He has been fantastic but the team would benefit hugely from a few more BIG hundred rather than the 70/80s he seems to get regularly.
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