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« on: February 02, 2006, 11:57:32 PM »

Check out these 2 hands, both from a $100 final table.


[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Seat 3 : has $2,470
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Seat 4 : has $5,380
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Seat 5 : has $2,680
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Seat 6 : has $9,060
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Seat 7 : has $6,115
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Seat 8 : has $8,065
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Seat 9 : Raiser has $4,230
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Seat 5 is the dealer.
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Seat 6 posted small blind.
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Seat 7 posted big blind.
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Game [111] started with 7 players.
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Seat 5 has
[Feb 2 23:20:46] : Seat 9 has
[Feb 2 23:20:48] : Seat 8 folded.
[Feb 2 23:20:50] : Seat 9 called 200 and raised 400
[Feb 2 23:20:52] : Seat 3 folded.
[Feb 2 23:20:52] : Seat 4 folded.
[Feb 2 23:21:02] : Seat 5 called 600
[Feb 2 23:21:04] : Seat 6 folded.
[Feb 2 23:21:23] : Seat 7 folded.
[Feb 2 23:21:23] : Dealing flop.
[Feb 2 23:21:23] : Board cards [ ]
[Feb 2 23:21:26] : Seat 9 checked.
[Feb 2 23:21:42] : Seat 5 bet 700
[Feb 2 23:21:45] : Seat 9 called 700 and raised 1,400
[Feb 2 23:21:47] : Seat 5 called 1,380 and is All-in
[Feb 2 23:21:48] : Showdown!
[Feb 2 23:21:48] : Seat 9 has
[Feb 2 23:21:50] : Seat 5 has
[Feb 2 23:21:56] : Board cards [
[Feb 2 23:21:56] : Seat 9 has Pair: 10s
[Feb 2 23:21:56] : Seat 5 has Pair: Kings
[Feb 2 23:21:56] : Seat 5 wins 5,660 with Pair: Kings
[Feb 2 23:22:06] : Hand is over.

The chat after was nearly as good as the hand!!

Seat 9: nh
Seat 9: took u for better than calling that much with KTos!
Seat 5: i had position

I guess Seat 5 had images of playing a multiple bet hand after calling 20%+ of his stack pre flop!
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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2006, 12:01:58 AM »

coulda called with AK
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2006, 12:17:07 AM »

Multi-Table Tournament
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
MTT Table 1 6875687-134 Holdem No Limit 150/300
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Hand Start.
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Seat 3 has $1,720
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Seat 4 has $4,680
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Seat 5 has $10,470
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Seat 6 has $1,700
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Seat 7 has $9,465
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Seat 8 has $6,865
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Seat 9 has $3,100
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Seat 7 is the dealer.
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Seat 8 posted small blind.
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Seat 9 posted big blind.
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Game [134] started with 7 players.
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Seat 9 has
[Feb 2 23:39:02] : Seat 5 has
[Feb 2 23:39:03] : Seat 3 folded.
[Feb 2 23:39:05] : Seat 4 folded.
[Feb 2 23:39:10] : Seat 5 called 300 and raised 800
[Feb 2 23:39:10] : Seat 6 folded.
[Feb 2 23:39:27] : Seat 7 folded.
[Feb 2 23:39:33] : Seat 8 folded.
[Feb 2 23:39:36] : Seat 9 called 800 and raised 2,000 and is All-in
[Feb 2 23:39:47] : Seat 5: ok
[Feb 2 23:39:48] : Seat 9: u have position
[Feb 2 23:39:58] : Seat 5 called 2,000
[Feb 2 23:39:59] : Showdown!
[Feb 2 23:39:59] : Seat 9 has
[Feb 2 23:40:00] : Seat 5 has
[Feb 2 23:40:12] : Board cards [As ]
[Feb 2 23:40:12] : Seat 9 has Pair: Queens
[Feb 2 23:40:12] : Seat 5 has Pair: Kings
[Feb 2 23:40:12] : Seat 5 wins 6,350 with Pair: Kings
[Feb 2 23:40:20] : Hand is over.


Mayve seat 5 knows something about KT that the rest of the table didnt!
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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2006, 12:18:15 AM »

coulda called with AK

As you probably guessed i am seat 9, lol. I didnt take him for AK, i can't think of anyone who would flat call AK in that spot.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2006, 03:04:38 AM »

James - GET OVER IT!!!!

Yes it was a $100 MTT, but you failed to mention that with only 19 runners, top 5 got paid, with 5th getting around $300 and the winner only getting $1400.

U check raised me with 10 10 on a K high flop - wanna explain that one?

I called your first raise cos it didnt leave me short stacked. I hit the flop K high flop IMO.

It was YOU that committed all ur chips with 10 10 on a K high board.

The next one was a bit of fun. You took soooo much offence to that first hand, when I found K 10 o/s again and it was your BB - I raised.

You then went all in with QQ (fair enough IMO). Now at this point I had PLENTY of chips. I typed into  chat "ill give you a spin". If I lost that pot, I was STILL 2nd in chips!!! I got lucky again and hit the K.

FFS James, its a $100 tourney with only 19 runners, not the WSOP.

In BOTH cases, I am playing YOU (the player) and NOT the cards.

You must be on such a bad run to moan like this.
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2006, 03:23:14 AM »

I'm imagining you both in curly permed wigs and shell suits, fists cocked at each other.

"you stahhtin, you stahhhhtin!!"

1st hand i wouldnt call the preflop raise but on the flop once you call the raise and bet out and are checkriased, there's too good a chance you are good to fold given the stack depths.

2nd one was a bit fishy but there's probably enough in the pot to call, getting 2-1 prob ok against James' range there.

Who won in the end anyway, was an epic battle between you and jaggers...2nd time you've been heads up in this isn't it?

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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2006, 03:28:27 AM »

LMAO Rod @ the "shellsuits" gag.

Me and James have ALWAYS had banter.

Jaggers won in the end after an hour long heads up battle. Final hand was pp for me and Ax for Jaggers.

GREAT final and thoroughly enjoyed.

Did you see the K 10 o/s against him? LOL See to me it a 'bit of fun'. I raised with K 10 o/s (I had approx 3 to 1 c/l) and he moved all in. I immediatley called of course!!! and lost. WAS SOOOOOOOOOO FUNNY!!!
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2006, 03:32:39 AM »

Fillmaff has KJ off, maybe you can corner the market on KT off lol.

N1 on 2nd. MMM heads up always good!
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2006, 11:15:14 AM »

Yes it was a $100 MTT, but you failed to mention that with only 19 runners, top 5 got paid, with 5th getting around $300 and the winner only getting $1400.

So we were 2 off the money....

U check raised me with 10 10 on a K high flop - wanna explain that one?

How can you have hit the King, AK you re-raise all in pre flop, all other Kx hands are unplayable for 20% of your stack, i fancied you took a flop with a middle pair to see a safe flop

I called your first raise cos it didnt leave me short stacked.

At the start of the hand you were 6th in chips, after calling you had 2k back on 100-200 and in 5 minutes it would be 150-300, i suppose you fancy there is a lot of street play with less than 10 bb's

I hit the flop K high flop IMO.

I don't understand that, if IMO means what i think it means, i never disputed you hit a K hi flop

The next one was a bit of fun. You took soooo much offence to that first hand, when I found K 10 o/s again and it was your BB - I raised.

You then went all in with QQ (fair enough IMO). Now at this point I had PLENTY of chips. I typed into  chat "ill give you a spin". If I lost that pot, I was STILL 2nd in chips!!! I got lucky again and hit the K.

Good play that.

You must be on such a bad run to moan like this.

I was a little below my monthly target but i am doing fine ty


The reason i posted it at all is that you slate players for bad play constantly. Then you go and make these plays! If you want to be a good player then look at these plays!
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2006, 11:39:21 AM »

Right James ,

The first hand, you say I could of had a mid pair. Wot u mean like 55 or 88 ?? - These are 2 hands that you say you can 'put me on'. Yet you STILL committ ALL your chips with 10 10 on that flop - MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE!!!

Leaving me with 7 big blinds - still enough to steal blinds. So your point is?

James, you say I constantly slate people for making bad plays - I think "constantly" is a bit strong.

Your last sentence says it all , you are digging yourself into a deeper hole - just sour grapes m8 , let it go.

I made the point about 'having a bad run' because when I first read your initial post, my thoughts were "jesus, he must be having a bad time of it recently to moan like this" - a sentiment shared by many others I have spoken to.

Like i have already said, I am playing YOU the player NOT the cards. Your early position raise didnt tell me you had a hand at all, I know you are capable of making a play for the blinds in early position (as alot of players including myself do). You will also go "all in" on a flop if you think the person is weak. With the K10 (the first one) I KNOW if I hit my K I am gonna double up on you - cos thats the way you play. You could of easily had a spade draw and you make the same move.

The 2nd K10 incident , although was a bit of fun - I had raised preflop. You move all in. Again I know that you are capable of moving all in in that situation with ABSOLUTELY nothing to make a resteal. The call was a gamble , granted. I could of easily been ahead of you here. AND YOU KNOW IT.

Against another player, lets say "50 outs" for example, I do not even CONSIDER playing these hands.

You have a reputation of being ultra aggressive, which gets you paid on your BIG hands, so stop moaning when it works against you.
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2006, 07:53:55 PM »

The problem is that you two have too much history with each other. You know that both are capable of making a move, and you both are ulta competative..... so fair coment that M3 was playing the player.
Some times james will win and some times m3 will win.
What makes me laugh is i've been on the recieving end of these type of moves from both of you in the past.
Esp fighting over blinds.

 
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2006, 07:55:04 PM »

AND TO BE TOTAL FAIR

James didn't name anyone in the hand history.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2006, 10:31:32 PM »

I think you need one each. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2006, 10:37:37 PM »

LMAO
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2006, 12:24:42 AM »

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