A QQ tournament hand

[Royal Flush]

Multi-Table Tournament
Table Name Hand ID Game Stakes
MTT Table 2 6959696-70 Holdem No Limit 50/100
[Feb 2 22:54:35] : Hand Start.
[Feb 2 22:54:35] : Seat 1 : 50 outs has $4,400
[Feb 2 22:54:35] : Seat 2 : amcgrath1uk has $3,370
[Feb 2 22:54:35] : Seat 4 : Flush Royal has $3,365
[Feb 2 22:54:35] : Seat 5 : BOND--007 has $1,870
[Feb 2 22:54:35] : Seat 6 : xpressman has $2,065
[Feb 2 22:54:35] : BOND--007 is the dealer.
[Feb 2 22:54:35] : xpressman posted small blind.
[Feb 2 22:54:35] : 50 outs posted big blind.
[Feb 2 22:54:35] : Game [70] started with 5 players.
[Feb 2 22:54:35] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Feb 2 22:54:35] : Seat 4 : Flush Royal has
[Feb 2 22:54:38] : amcgrath1uk folded.
[Feb 2 22:54:41] : Flush Royal called 100 and raised 200
[Feb 2 22:54:41] : BOND--007 folded.
[Feb 2 22:54:47] : xpressman called 250 and raised 800
[Feb 2 22:54:56] : 50 outs called 1,000


xpressman is a mystery, 50 outs is a decent player. Your image is as a bit of a raising maching, in the last 15 hands u have raised about 8. Whats the next action?

[NoflopsHomer]

All-in.

[Nem]

Fold

[bundle]

well we all know what you did....You Called, so what was the verdict ?

[Royal Flush]

Patience!

[Ironside]

calling is the worst option here you need to push or fold

its very likely that a push would get you HU so i would be more likely to fold here

[M3boy]

WTF are you doing raising only 200   Did you do this looking for a raise behind you so you could re raise??

And yes its a fold for me

[JungleCat03]

I can understand raising this small amount from LP, looking for the button to resteal or one of the blinds to think his ace high or KQ is good enought to reraise and force you out.

The way the hand plays out, you gotta be very afraid of 50 outs, the flat call looks and smells like a monster.

[Alex Scott]

I'm more scared of the flat-call than the reraise.

I think you should fold while you only have 200 invested. Against decent players, you're either in a coinflip or way behind.

[RobS]

Flushy clearly put in 300 chips. Some of you lot need lessons in reading Hand Histories 

[M3boy]

I actually said "raise 200" . I have read the hand history

[TheJagster]

Personally I think i would drop the ladies. You might be ahead at this point but 50 Outs is a good player and I rekkon he has a hand at the very least.

So you might be behind or against an AK with one of em...and possibly two.

Better opportunities to take more money with a worse starting hand later I think.

[Royal Flush]

WTF are you doing raising only 200

3 times the blind was/is a standard raise.

As it was i fancied that 50 outs had a big hand, but given i had played a lot of the previous hands i thought he may well flat call with a hand like TT expecting me to fold, if i then move in he can pass and save 2200 chips. Also if i called and hit my Q i would get the pot and xpressman's stack aswell as a full double of outs. 2500+965+3065=6530 so i had to call 800 to collect 6530!

[Feb 2 22:55:07] : Flush Royal called 800
[Feb 2 22:55:07] : Dealing flop.
[Feb 2 22:55:07] : Board cards [ ]
[Feb 2 22:55:13] : xpressman bet 965 and is All-in
[Feb 2 22:55:20] : 50 outs called 965

[Alex Scott]

Flushy clearly put in 300 chips. Some of you lot need lessons in reading Hand Histories 

So he did. This must be one of those places online that string raises. 'I call. And I raise.' What rubbish.

[JungleCat03]

you have to play the hand as though you have the best hand now. Theres 3300 + 895 + 895 = 5095 by the time it comes to you.

Obviously the shortstack has committed himself preflop so you can assume his bet has nothing to do with the texture of the flop. 50 outs flat call is interesting. I would put his range on 99-AA.

AK unlikley as he is more likely to have reraised allin out of position preflop. 99 TT possible and he is flat calling wary of the overcard and you behind yet to act.  JJ v possible as he flat calls not wanting to lose you. QQ unlikely as you have it but possible. KK i would think he now raises allin. AA possible.

So against his range, with the amount in the pot, u play.

You have a choice. Reraise allin  or flat call and push the turn. Reraise allin. By the time you call the 935 u have only another 1200 back anyway. You may be behind, may be ahead but since you are committed to the pot, you have to charge inferior hands to draw now. If you flat call and he is ahead you will be put in on the turn.

The pot is big enough to commit to and you'll have trouble folding it on later streets so ship yer chips in and let 50 outs call with his set/ AA 99 or TT..

I think these decisions follow on almsot automatically from the preflop call. I think it's the wrong move to call with QQ preflop. Either reraise or pass.