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« Reply #255 on: October 14, 2016, 12:54:38 AM »

It needles to me to have to post tbh. I have been friend with Renee 6 years , outside of poker too , I cared for her we had a solid friendship, anything she asked to play live I okayed , she had zero reason to do this , if any of the shitty excuses she has made to for eg school fees ( in 6 years she never mentioned a child to me btw) I would of helped her anyway possible. She got thru day 1 of the comp in question on the thursday , she spent the day with me saturday at DTD just chilling chatting , she never even mention she made day 2, she lied to my face and was waiting for the cpp sat at dtd I agreed we put her in. She premeditated all of this. I hate all the silly memes and jokes on social media I have more class than that , but the fact is she planned this and decided on a whim not only to Fu*k her backers over but a friend. So if she gets made to feel uncomfy now and again , people calling her out then tough shit. Its deserved.

If you cared for her and she's your friend you could be a little more understanding tbf
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« Reply #256 on: October 14, 2016, 03:46:30 AM »

It needles to me to have to post tbh. I have been friend with Renee 6 years , outside of poker too , I cared for her we had a solid friendship, anything she asked to play live I okayed , she had zero reason to do this , if any of the shitty excuses she has made to for eg school fees ( in 6 years she never mentioned a child to me btw) I would of helped her anyway possible. She got thru day 1 of the comp in question on the thursday , she spent the day with me saturday at DTD just chilling chatting , she never even mention she made day 2, she lied to my face and was waiting for the cpp sat at dtd I agreed we put her in. She premeditated all of this. I hate all the silly memes and jokes on social media I have more class than that , but the fact is she planned this and decided on a whim not only to Fu*k her backers over but a friend. So if she gets made to feel uncomfy now and again , people calling her out then tough shit. Its deserved.

If you cared for her and she's your friend you could be a little more understanding tbf

I'm completely with Sylv on this. I was one of her friends, spent a good hour talking to her on that same Saturday while I was playing. The fact that she's made all of these comments about how much she needs the money and then she's playing 1ks and various other tournaments so soon after? I think this is totally classless, and more than that feels like a personal insult as if she thinks she's not wronged anyone and can just keep going as if nothing has happened. What does she expect? Everyone to just be all friendly with her as if nothing has gone on? If she feels uncomfortable when she plays in a casino then that's completely deserved imo. What's more, Sylv cared for her as she does all her friends, but I don't know how you can be understanding about something like this when Renee has behaved how she has, and been given opportunities to make it right. Because of this, I don't think Sylv still considers her a friend. I certainly don't.
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« Reply #257 on: October 14, 2016, 08:08:42 AM »

WP Glen.




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« Reply #258 on: October 14, 2016, 08:17:00 AM »

WP Glen.






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« Reply #259 on: October 14, 2016, 09:16:18 AM »

There is a disgusting trait ever present amongst poker players and that is a serious dis-respect for debts and loans.

Money seems like it flows pretty endlessly, you see a guy cash a comp for $160k only 3 months after cashing for $89k, wow this guys must just have endless money... It breeds this contemptuous attitude of "well X doesn't need £Y as much so i won't pay what i owe on time" the debts are seen as very soft when they are not they are as morally black and white as they come. When you owe on an interest free loan unless the agreement is otherwise very clearly laid out then that loan is #1 priority, you don't go on holiday, you don't eat at fancy restaurants, you don't shoot big comps or game until that money is paid back. Everytime i go to facebook i see poker guys who owe me 4figure+ sums going on holiday or playing golf, basically I'm just paying for their holidays and recreations, because they don't care about the debt and that is equal to stealing.

Poker players should understand more than anyone the opportunity cost you can incur by having your cash anywhere that isn't in your bank, I've borrowed a ton of money in the last 2-3 years for business projects and paid plenty of interest on it, if some of the guys who owe me would have stood up and done the right thing might have saved me a few quid, but again they don't care because poker breeds this horrible attitude towards money.

Renee planned this the whole time, regardless of her need for the money you always have two options in life, to do the right thing, or to do the wrong thing, sometimes it's blurred by circumstance or you simply don't know which is which but if you're a good person then you stand on your decisions and take responsibility for them.

She decided she was in a jam, needed money and picked stealing as her way out, not opportunistic stealing - but cold blooded well planned theft and she picked Paul and BRS to steal from because they trusted her and she knew she could abuse that relationship, there is no difference between this and a confidence trick, and certainly no difference (morally at least) between this and walking into a shop and putting something in your pocket, or just taking someones handbag in the street. There is no justification for this, and the very fact that isn't as shocking as it should be is a damning insight into the awful attitudes of poker players towards other peoples money.
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« Reply #260 on: October 14, 2016, 09:17:29 AM »

WP Glen.






Brarrffff :-)

Just all starting to feel a bit amdram and personal with all the howling and 'how could she do this to me ?' rather than a report of a bit of everyday bilkage in a business situation.

If we want to share among the community (lol) some credit rating details then lets just give her a score - the credit rating agencies don't send out a report attacking someone on a personal basis around their motivations, they just state the facts.

I'm moving firmly into the Keef camp on this, albeit for different reasons. Starting to think it's like a blow by the little man against global capitalism - wd Renee, the peoples champ
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« Reply #261 on: October 14, 2016, 09:55:14 AM »

Don't agree pooftah. There's no emotion in the relationship between human being and credit score agency so unsurprisingly there's no emotional outburst. I mean if I took that dog from the ClearScore.com adverts out for walks, fed it, gave it treats and then it bit my hand or shat in my shoes I'd be WTF?? You ungrateful little beggar.
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« Reply #262 on: October 14, 2016, 09:57:24 AM »

Agree. Kill the dog, little bastard.
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« Reply #263 on: October 14, 2016, 10:27:17 AM »

After we've all finished pissing up each other's back n saying it's raining
We are aware of the fact that she's a grimmer
Which is worth knowing
I saw her Tuesday at a £60 bowl comp at Luton. On came the hello Tony smiley face ,I'm still happy to say hello ,but no chance of buying a % / lending any money and for this I'm grateful !
That's what this forum is for ? -info n advice on a wide variety of subjects not bitter infighting with each other ? Shirley
Cheer up it's Friday another grimmer will be along soon Smiley
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« Reply #264 on: October 14, 2016, 11:23:36 AM »

Don't agree pooftah. There's no emotion in the relationship between human being and credit score agency so unsurprisingly there's no emotional outburst. I mean if I took that dog from the ClearScore.com adverts out for walks, fed it, gave it treats and then it bit my hand or shat in my shoes I'd be WTF?? You ungrateful little beggar.

Haha. Questioning myself now but pretty sure we should celebrate her in her quixotic quest against the usurers.
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« Reply #265 on: October 14, 2016, 11:45:16 AM »

Oh 100%. Unfortunately I have zero sympathy for the staking business (sorry boys) because when you build out your shrewdie business model this is a variable you must factor in as a matter of business. When that eventuality transpires you can't turn on the non-businesses waterworks of trust abuse between friends. But that said as people we should do what we say we're going to do or life is going to suck ass. People tell me all the while 'I give you my word' and these days it means abs nothing. I am so anal about this, even to the degree that if I arrange a meet at 9:00...it gets to 9:01...and the other person isn't there...i'm already flipping my shit.
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« Reply #266 on: October 14, 2016, 02:32:46 PM »

Oh 100%. Unfortunately I have zero sympathy for the staking business (sorry boys) because when you build out your shrewdie business model this is a variable you must factor in as a matter of business. When that eventuality transpires you can't turn on the non-businesses waterworks of trust abuse between friends. But that said as people we should do what we say we're going to do or life is going to suck ass. People tell me all the while 'I give you my word' and these days it means abs nothing. I am so anal about this, even to the degree that if I arrange a meet at 9:00...it gets to 9:01...and the other person isn't there...i'm already flipping my shit.
A pet hate of mine is bad timekeeping. Being ex military,if someone says we'll meet at 1300hrs, I'm there at 1255hrs.
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« Reply #267 on: October 14, 2016, 02:43:42 PM »

Oh 100%. Unfortunately I have zero sympathy for the staking business (sorry boys) because when you build out your shrewdie business model this is a variable you must factor in as a matter of business. When that eventuality transpires you can't turn on the non-businesses waterworks of trust abuse between friends. But that said as people we should do what we say we're going to do or life is going to suck ass. People tell me all the while 'I give you my word' and these days it means abs nothing. I am so anal about this, even to the degree that if I arrange a meet at 9:00...it gets to 9:01...and the other person isn't there...i'm already flipping my shit.
A pet hate of mine is bad timekeeping. Being ex military,if someone says we'll meet at 1300hrs, I'm there at 1255hrs.

Same here, drives me mad when people pitch up 15 mins late and think nothing of it.....
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« Reply #268 on: October 14, 2016, 03:27:07 PM »

I'm also in that camp on timekeeping.  Particularly hate it in Vegas when notoriously late people want to meet in the lobby at 6pm.  Err...that's not happening.  I'm in the poker room, table 27 seat 4... get me from there.  Stand me in the lobby for 20 minutes, I'm not going to be there when you get there.  And if I am, I'm not going to be good company.

As for staking sympathy, I don't want any.  Yes, it is priced in.  That's why I don't mind when a short term stake works out to be a % that makes Wonga blush, it is also priced in.  Grimming is a cost of doing business, but as with other costs, don't mind me if I try and reduce them.  The poker community historically has done a beyond terrible job of self policing. 
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« Reply #269 on: October 14, 2016, 03:32:28 PM »

It needles to me to have to post tbh. I have been friend with Renee 6 years , outside of poker too , I cared for her we had a solid friendship, anything she asked to play live I okayed , she had zero reason to do this , if any of the shitty excuses she has made to for eg school fees ( in 6 years she never mentioned a child to me btw) I would of helped her anyway possible. She got thru day 1 of the comp in question on the thursday , she spent the day with me saturday at DTD just chilling chatting , she never even mention she made day 2, she lied to my face and was waiting for the cpp sat at dtd I agreed we put her in. She premeditated all of this. I hate all the silly memes and jokes on social media I have more class than that , but the fact is she planned this and decided on a whim not only to Fu*k her backers over but a friend. So if she gets made to feel uncomfy now and again , people calling her out then tough shit. Its deserved.

If you cared for her and she's your friend you could be a little more understanding tbf



All i have ever done is help that girl in anyway possible , like I do all of my friends , anyone that knows me knows that mate. This was calculated , the excuses was all lies, she entered a 1k event and spunked off loads on roulette all week.
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