The world cup

[TightEnd]

The two years of debate after we lose to Colombia will be fun

Keeping a positive mindset again I see 

Perfectly positive. Colombia are over 3/1 for the match. It's a 50-50 game. Off to find the piggy bank, what value...

[tikay]

Not England related, but this was pretty good.....



https://twitter.com/RomaThings/status/1012392987656060928

[TightEnd]

Or 6/4 Colombia to qualify bet365, probably a price that will be longer on Tuesday too.

Someone put me off!

[MANTIS01]

England side facing Colombia will be way different.

No win game with almost whole team changed.

Wouldn't base my expectations around the performance of this starting 11

[TightEnd]

I am not. All about the value. Isn't it a 50-50 game? England are priced up 1/2 to qualify. With mug money to send it lower still. Don't see these spots too often.

[Doobs]

I am not. All about the value. Isn't it a 50-50 game? England are priced up 1/2 to qualify. With mug money to send it lower still. Don't see these spots too often.

It isn't a 50/50 game.  They lost to Japan and have been pretty underwhelming.   Other than Brazil, the South American teams don't look that great this time round.  May well be value, but will probably get better, as you say.

[kukushkin88]

England side facing Colombia will be way different.

No win game with almost whole team changed.

Wouldn't base my expectations around the performance of this starting 11

and you get upset when someone says ‘simpleton’. Sorry Tighty, I don’t mean to be trouble, they’re suckering me in.

[Woodsey]

The two years of debate after we lose to Colombia will be fun

Keeping a positive mindset again I see 

Perfectly positive. Colombia are over 3/1 for the match. It's a 50-50 game. Off to find the piggy bank, what value...

Forget the odds, absolute treason for betting against England! Off with your head!

[Doobs]

The final arbiter is the betfair market.  England now in to 8/1 for the World Cup.   Looking like a great result unless swinging dicks around is your thing...

Weren’t they 8/1 best before kick off? Spain and Croatia now very interesting.

Not on betfair.  

[TightEnd]

I am not. All about the value. Isn't it a 50-50 game? England are priced up 1/2 to qualify. With mug money to send it lower still. Don't see these spots too often.

It isn't a 50/50 game.  They lost to Japan and have been pretty underwhelming.   Other than Brazil, the South American teams don't look that great this time round.  May well be value, but will probably get better, as you say.

Yes thanks. They had ten men v Japan. Then again James may be out which is massive, exactly the sort of playmaker we would struggle against

Will sleep on it and try to wait til Tues anyway

[MANTIS01]

I don't give Colombia a sniff

[Marky147]

I don't give Colombia a sniff

All about the Peruvian...

[TightEnd]

all delighted the next game is on ITV?

By the by,punditry is difficult but is there a less interesting pundit than Ryan Giggs, on either channel? Offers little, boring style

[Doobs]

Here you go Tighty

https://www.eloratings.net/

now thinks it is close to a coinflip.  I will add that before yesterday's result England were 4th or 5th in the ratings, so England likely have a bigger edge than this, but it is probably still a bit of value, but I suspect waiting is best.  I know some of it was down to team selection and words from Martinez, but Belgium drifted massively before yesterday's game.   I think they were something like 5/4 for that game before the World Cup started (they were clear favourites anyway), and 3/1 just afer the game started.   

I am in the odd position of having an England to win voucher and have backed their opponent in 2 games already.  I am not trying to hedge either.   

And at least ITV doesn't have Shearer and Lawrenson.   

[Chompy]

Numbers probably make the England-Colombia prices about right, but sometimes you have to go with your eyes.

I'm with Tighty here, the loldream ends early next week.