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« Reply #255 on: July 03, 2018, 10:51:45 PM » |
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About the 20th minute one of the Columbian technical staff passed a note on
Presume it said we can't live with this time to go to plan b
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« Reply #256 on: July 03, 2018, 10:53:13 PM » |
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Highlights now on the beeb!
Let's go again
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« Reply #257 on: July 03, 2018, 10:53:17 PM » |
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Well done England.
Best team won the match. I'm not sure how the ref didnt send of at least one Columbian player for their antics. No place for that in the game imo,
Worldy of a save by Pickford just before Columbia equalised. Deserves more praise.
England have a real chance here to get to the Final, though they rely far too much on Kane. Rashford must start in place of Sterling, who has been anonymous in this World Cup.
Rashford is nowhere near good enough to be starting regularly for England. I'm sure he will be in a couple of years but not at the moment. Whilst it's flavour of the month/year/decade to bash Sterling, and yes he doesn't get on the scoresheet as much as he should (though that can be levelled at plenty of other players), he offers way more to the team than Rashford. His runs, his ability to create space, he occupies defenders, his link up play. He starts for England on merit, and whilst he isn't pulling up any trees this comp, his all round game is contributing to this 'success' England are enjoying.
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« Reply #258 on: July 03, 2018, 10:56:34 PM » |
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Do think we lost something when Sterling went off. Rashford made a bigger difference than Vardy, though that might just be because they were given different instructions.
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« Reply #259 on: July 03, 2018, 10:57:09 PM » |
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England controlled the game until tbey became conscious of needing to control the game.
Better performance than I thought we were capable of and most enjoyable 80 odd minutes of watching England in a tourney for a while
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« Reply #260 on: July 03, 2018, 10:58:24 PM » |
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Sterling is playing fine just needs a goal
Amazing how perception changes around Henderson
Looking at the highlights again another ref he gets sent off for reacting during the penalty award. The game seemed to pass him by and he never controlled it at any point.
As ever could never fault his effort
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« Reply #261 on: July 03, 2018, 11:02:22 PM » |
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The mail release an article slagging Sterling just after the final penalty
Great work Matt lawton you moron
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« Reply #262 on: July 03, 2018, 11:04:09 PM » |
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Massive respect for Southgate too - can't really find any fault in anything he has done since taking over and presents himself so well compared with so many arrogant idiot predecessors in the role
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« Reply #263 on: July 03, 2018, 11:04:12 PM » |
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The mail release an article slagging Sterling just after the final penalty
Great work Matt lawton you moron
The media hatchet job has worked wonders. Now your average simpleton down the pub hates Sterling and they don't even know why.
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« Reply #264 on: July 03, 2018, 11:11:07 PM » |
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Massive respect for Southgate too - can't really find any fault in anything he has done since taking over and presents himself so well compared with so many arrogant idiot predecessors in the role
Correct Credit to the much maligned Dan ashworth as well was a massive cheerleader for Southgate since he was appointed to oversee all the changes
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« Reply #265 on: July 04, 2018, 12:24:19 AM » |
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The mail release an article slagging Sterling just after the final penalty
Great work Matt lawton you moron
The media hatchet job has worked wonders. Now your average simpleton down the pub hates Sterling and they don't even know why. The media are dicks, as per. Lack of proper research and the desire to scare everyone is why we are so relatively poorly supported, when there appears to be very little risk in being there.
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« Reply #266 on: July 04, 2018, 01:40:02 AM » |
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very surprised that Vardy didn't take one. 80% success rate for club
wonder why. maybe lacking a bit of confidence as you imply
Presumably he was 6th?
good pens though, even Henderson's was a good save rather than a bad pen
Harry Maguire had a really really good game (trying to be objective but failing)
Re: Vardy and not taking a penalty. My guesstimate is that in the majority of Southgate's scenarios where England got to penalties then Vardy wouldn't have been on the pitch, given that Rashford seems to have been the Plan A attacking replacement. Whereas the five who went ahead of him were likely to be on the pitch (Dier not as much I confess). I realise in this particular scenario he was and I'm also surprised he didn't take one. But the whole 'owning the process' mantra that Southgate has preached recently almost certainly had Player X taking Penalty Y and I presume that Dier was always pencilled in for spot-kick number five if he was on the pitch. Forgetting his performances in Russia so far he has a) captained England and b) taken free kicks for England (e.g. vs. Russia in Euro 2016) so certainly seems to have the mental ability to be trusted in such a situation and the technique at dead ball situations. p.s. not a dig at you Rich, just quoting you out of the many who asked the same question. p.p.s. I know you're a stats man, the xG of a penalty is 76% according to understat.com's xG model, so Vardy is above average...just.
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« Reply #267 on: July 04, 2018, 06:25:59 AM » |
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The two years of debate after we lose to Colombia will be fun
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« Reply #268 on: July 04, 2018, 08:17:08 AM » |
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Overwhelming to win on penalties, long time coming
Maguire was a colossus at the back and really penetrating running the ball forwards. In fact the back 3 looked composed in possession at the back, liking it.
Trippier has impressed on the international scene
Henderson is the ghost of David Batty, penalty miss was totally expected. In ET when we need a moment of magic JH is incapable. Bringing Jonjo Shelvey on for that 30mins would have been just the ticket.
Bring on Sweden yah.
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« Reply #269 on: July 04, 2018, 10:00:38 AM » |
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Re: Vardy taking a pen
I read or heard somewhere (maybe twitter) vardy said no to taking a pen when asked. Not sure how true that is though
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