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Sorry to hear that Cau is involved as I liked him as a player.
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Numptys get their wages in different ways. Many ways to skin a cat
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What form Ken is in.
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On that day of the Welsh Open, 38 betting accounts in the Far East - using sophisticated computer software - attempted to place a total of £250,000 in one second on the result of Cao's match against twice World Championship runner-up Ali Carter.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46411743
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Ronnie O'Sullivan says he is "ready to go" and form a breakaway "Champions League-style" snooker tour.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46419267
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Quote from: tikay on December 03, 2018, 11:01:22 AM
Ronnie O'Sullivan says he is "ready to go" and form a breakaway "Champions League-style" snooker tour.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/46419267
I want to see qualifiers playing top players.
I don't think players banned for match fixing should be brought back.
I do think Hearn has too much power, especially when he gets on about shot speed etc.
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Luca Brecel had Lu Ning difficulty this afternoon.
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In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.
Imagine that in football.
"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"
Love snooker.
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Quote from: tikay on December 03, 2018, 08:43:58 PM
In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.
Imagine that in football.
"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"
Love snooker.
We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.
But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.
It's a complete anachronism.
Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.
Absolutely no excuse for this still being a problem.
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Quote from: Tal on December 04, 2018, 06:41:13 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 03, 2018, 08:43:58 PM
In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.
Imagine that in football.
"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"
Love snooker.
We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.
But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.
It's a complete anachronism.
Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.
Absolutely no excuse for this still being a problem.
Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on December 04, 2018, 08:20:18 AM
Quote from: Tal on December 04, 2018, 06:41:13 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 03, 2018, 08:43:58 PM
In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.
Imagine that in football.
"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"
Love snooker.
We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.
But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.
It's a complete anachronism.
Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.
Absolutely no excuse for this still being a problem.
Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.
If technology can get us an eighth of a frazzle over the goalline, it should be able to get us to where the cue ball is.
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Re: Give me a break
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Quote from: Tal on December 04, 2018, 08:58:38 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on December 04, 2018, 08:20:18 AM
Quote from: Tal on December 04, 2018, 06:41:13 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 03, 2018, 08:43:58 PM
In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.
Imagine that in football.
"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"
Love snooker.
We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.
But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.
It's a complete anachronism.
Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.
Absolutely no excuse for
this still being a problem.
Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.
If technology can get us an eighth of a frazzle over the goalline, it should be able to get us to where the cue ball is.
Is it a problem? The ref gets some help from the players, who want the ball in the same place because that means their adjustments on the shot mean something. I’m not aware of any contentious situations that have come from this.
Any camera setup would inevitably suffer from some degree of parallax and then you’re back to that eighth of a frazzle which the players can see.
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Quote from: Tal on December 04, 2018, 08:58:38 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on December 04, 2018, 08:20:18 AM
Quote from: Tal on December 04, 2018, 06:41:13 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 03, 2018, 08:43:58 PM
In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.
Imagine that in football.
"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"
Love snooker.
We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.
But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.
It's a complete anachronism.
Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.
Absolutely no excuse for this still being a problem.
Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.
If technology can get us an eighth of a frazzle over the goalline, it should be able to get us to where the cue ball is.
I know what you're saying, but footballers from both teams never get down to the level of the playing surface and look at the ball from the perfect angle, and the ball is never never stationary at the moment in question.
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Quote from: Pokerpops on December 04, 2018, 09:19:16 AM
Quote from: Tal on December 04, 2018, 08:58:38 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on December 04, 2018, 08:20:18 AM
Quote from: Tal on December 04, 2018, 06:41:13 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 03, 2018, 08:43:58 PM
In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.
Imagine that in football.
"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"
Love snooker.
We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.
But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.
It's a complete anachronism.
Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.
Absolutely no excuse for
this still being a problem.
Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.
If technology can get us an eighth of a frazzle over the goalline, it should be able to get us to where the cue ball is.
Is it a problem? The ref gets some help from the players, who want the ball in the same place because that means their adjustments on the shot mean something. I’m not aware of any contentious situations that have come from this.
Any camera setup would inevitably suffer from some degree of parallax and then you’re back to that eighth of a frazzle which the players can see.
It's a problem in that it's needlessly inexact and left to human interpretation and judgment, when it's actually a point of fact as to where a ball was.
I get it's not a major issue. It just seems rather 20th century to me and snooker being left behind is a bad thing.
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Re: Give me a break
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December 04, 2018, 09:28:23 AM »
Quote from: Tal on December 04, 2018, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: Pokerpops on December 04, 2018, 09:19:16 AM
Quote from: Tal on December 04, 2018, 08:58:38 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on December 04, 2018, 08:20:18 AM
Quote from: Tal on December 04, 2018, 06:41:13 AM
Quote from: tikay on December 03, 2018, 08:43:58 PM
In snooker, after a "miss" is declared the referee asks the player if the cue ball has been replaced in the correct spot. The player often ends up penalising himself by saying "left a bit" "right a bit" or whatever. Then the ref looks at both players "that ok?" and they both nod in agreement. In fact the seated player almost never bothers to check.
Imagine that in football.
"Was that foul outside the area or inside the area mate?"
Love snooker.
We can tell the trajectory and landing spot of a Rafa Nadal smash, map the expected flight of a Jimmy Anderson lbw appeal, decide whether a ball bounced over the line on the way down from the crossbar. All using technology.
But where did this erstwhile static object start moving from? We'll have to ask someone to look at a screen for us and wiggle it about a bit until we are broadly confident, then ask the players what they think.
It's a complete anachronism.
Must be a technological way of solving this problem. How about an overhead projector that can impose an image of the balls before the shot on the table? Ref just slides the white to where the projected white ball is.
Absolutely no excuse for
this still being a problem.
Sometimes the margins are so fine that a projected image wouldn't do. i.e.you can see the thin edge of a ball, move the white an 8th of a frazzle and now you can't. Both players know, the camera doesn't.
If technology can get us an eighth of a frazzle over the goalline, it should be able to get us to where the cue ball is.
Is it a problem? The ref gets some help from the players, who want the ball in the same place because that means their adjustments on the shot mean something. I’m not aware of any contentious situations that have come from this.
Any camera setup would inevitably suffer from some degree of parallax and then you’re back to that eighth of a frazzle which the players can see.
It's a problem in that it's needlessly inexact and left to human interpretation and judgment, when it's actually a point of fact as to where a ball was.
I get it's not a major issue. It just seems rather 20th century to me and snooker being left behind is a bad thing.
When a golfer marks his ball on the putting green should we be taking a photo so that it goes back in exactly the same spot?
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