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Nerdy wordy people only please.
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March 20, 2018, 10:37:06 AM »
I wanted to talk about over used phrases, ('Springs to mind' springs to mind) but then I got to wondering if what I'm calling a phrase is actually a simile or a idiom or something, so I looked 'Idiom' up.
Apparently an idiom is a collection of words that mean something different than what the actual words say.
Example- 'Over the moon'. We know what it means but it has nothing to do with being over the moon, it's an idiom.
I didn't know any of that until just now, but afaik 'Springs to mind' can be safely classified as a phrase. (Unless of course you know different)
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I've just read that back to myself and it looks completely unintelligible.
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March 20, 2018, 12:10:51 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 20, 2018, 10:55:17 AM
I've just read that back to myself and it looks completely unintelligible.
No, it's as clear as a bell.
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March 21, 2018, 02:09:08 AM »
I think as its not literal its still an idiom but I am not sure. Google seems unclear, wikitionary calls it idiomatic
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March 21, 2018, 06:54:11 AM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 20, 2018, 10:37:06 AM
I wanted to talk about over used phrases, ('Springs to mind' springs to mind) but then I got to wondering if what I'm calling a phrase is actually a simile or a idiom or something, so I looked 'Idiom' up.
Apparently an idiom is a collection of words that mean something different than what the actual words say.
Example- 'Over the moon'. We know what it means but it has nothing to do with being over the moon, it's an idiom.
I didn't know any of that until just now, but afaik 'Springs to mind' can be safely classified as a phrase. (Unless of course you know different)
Idioms aren't to be taken literally, so "springs to mind" is probably not an idiom, as you are saying it came to your mind quickly.
Similes are comparators, which need a word like "as" or "like": cold as ice; sweet like chocolate.
Phrase is fine. It's the broadest term.
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March 21, 2018, 08:04:40 AM »
Going to hijack this thread now Tal has spoken.
I discovered the other day that BBC is not an acronym, after all, t is an initialism, as is FBI.
Of course, GIF and SCUBA are acronyms.
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March 21, 2018, 08:10:14 AM »
Quote from: Doobs on March 21, 2018, 08:04:40 AM
Going to hijack this thread now Tal has spoken.
I discovered the other day that BBC is not an acronym, after all, t is an initialism, as is FBI.
Of course, GIF and SCUBA are acronyms.
Yes, if you pronounce it as though it were a word, it's an acronym.
GIF is apparently pronounced "jiff", too, with a soft G.
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March 21, 2018, 08:40:02 AM »
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2018, 08:10:14 AM
Quote from: Doobs on March 21, 2018, 08:04:40 AM
Going to hijack this thread now Tal has spoken.
I discovered the other day that BBC is not an acronym, after all, t is an initialism, as is FBI.
Of course, GIF and SCUBA are acronyms.
Yes, if you pronounce it as though it were a word, it's an acronym.
GIF is apparently pronounced "jiff", too, with a soft G.
Shan't is acceptible, but sha'nt isn't. They are equally incorrect though, as we should really be using sha'n't.
I shant get too upset about it.
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Re: Nerdy wordy people only please.
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March 21, 2018, 08:52:58 AM »
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2018, 08:10:14 AM
Quote from: Doobs on March 21, 2018, 08:04:40 AM
Going to hijack this thread now Tal has spoken.
I discovered the other day that BBC is not an acronym, after all, t is an initialism, as is FBI.
Of course, GIF and SCUBA are acronyms.
Yes, if you pronounce it as though it were a word, it's an acronym.
GIF is apparently pronounced "jiff", too, with a soft G.
More correctly (perhaps) the person who created the GIF thought it should be pronounced "jiff" - given the standard usage of it is with a hard 'G' their's a good argument that he's wrong and it's irrelevant that he's the person who came up with it.
More weirdly, I think, is that the company that makes it seems to think that Nutella should be pronounced "New-teller" rather than "Nut-ella"
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Re: Nerdy wordy people only please.
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March 21, 2018, 10:58:55 AM »
Quote from: Doobs on March 21, 2018, 08:40:02 AM
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2018, 08:10:14 AM
Quote from: Doobs on March 21, 2018, 08:04:40 AM
Going to hijack this thread now Tal has spoken.
I discovered the other day that BBC is not an acronym, after all, t is an initialism, as is FBI.
Of course, GIF and SCUBA are acronyms.
Yes, if you pronounce it as though it were a word, it's an acronym.
GIF is apparently pronounced "jiff", too, with a soft G.
Shan't is acceptible, but sha'nt isn't. They are equally incorrect though, as we should really be using sha'n't.
I shant get too upset about it.
If I try to write in a Yorkshire accent I need so many apostrophes it looks stupid.
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Re: Nerdy wordy people only please.
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Quote from: Jon MW on March 21, 2018, 08:52:58 AM
Quote from: Tal on March 21, 2018, 08:10:14 AM
Quote from: Doobs on March 21, 2018, 08:04:40 AM
Going to hijack this thread now Tal has spoken.
I discovered the other day that BBC is not an acronym, after all, t is an initialism, as is FBI.
Of course, GIF and SCUBA are acronyms.
Yes, if you pronounce it as though it were a word, it's an acronym.
GIF is apparently pronounced "jiff", too, with a soft G.
More correctly (perhaps) the person who created the GIF thought it should be pronounced "jiff" - given the standard usage of it is with a hard 'G' their's a good argument that he's wrong and it's irrelevant that he's the person who came up with it.
More weirdly, I think, is that the company that makes it seems to think that Nutella should be pronounced "New-teller" rather than "Nut-ella"
From ze german sound of nuss (for nuts) i guess but it ain't called nussella
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March 23, 2018, 10:41:03 PM »
I thought it was pronounced hyper-bowl.
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https://youtu.be/JEBZ_lq7cxY
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Re: Nerdy wordy people only please.
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March 23, 2018, 10:56:42 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 23, 2018, 10:41:03 PM
I thought it was pronounced hyper-bowl.
Mrs Red wins again.
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For the millionth time, Red: you need to listen to her more.
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Re: Nerdy wordy people only please.
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March 23, 2018, 11:22:27 PM »
Quote from: Tal on March 23, 2018, 10:56:42 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on March 23, 2018, 10:41:03 PM
I thought it was pronounced hyper-bowl.
Mrs Red wins again.
https://youtu.be/JEBZ_lq7cxY
For the millionth time, Red: you need to listen to her more.
Rhymes with superbowl obv.
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March 24, 2018, 03:35:12 PM »
So nerdy wordy people of Blonde, would BBQ be an initialism or an acronym? I'm guessing an acronym but i cant get my head around the fact that BBQ does not spell out or sound like 'Bar-Be-Que' so surely this makes it an initialism? But then again BBQ is not read out as 'Be-Be-Que'
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