Bluffing

[NoflopsHomer]

I've always found it interesting that they're aren't as many hand analysis threads around working a bluff. So I thought I'd try out one myself. Bamford had seemed a very fishy player, min-raising with a lot of hands in various positions, and the fact that he called a lot of flop bets but folded to many turn and river bets. (Notwithstanding the fact that about 10 hands later he knocked me out with AA vs KK after he limped after 3 other limpers and I raised!). Comment, criticise all you want please. I don't think we have enough threads about blondes being the bluffer.

Table "$5K MONDAY GTD 1834384 - 5" Seat 9 is the button.
Seat 1: Foaming_h (1690 in chips)
Seat 3: Chriss005 (2145 in chips)
Seat 4: Biffo27 sits out
Seat 5: Boy687 (4550 in chips)
Seat 6: Rosario (2790 in chips)
Seat 7: Napper sits out
Seat 8: Paulen001 (1490 in chips)
Seat 9: Mechanism (1755 in chips)
Seat 10: Bamford (4085 in chips)
Bamford: posts small blind 50
Foaming_h: posts big blind 100
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Foaming_h [ ]
Chriss005: folds
Biffo27: folds
Biffo27 sits back
Boy687: folds
Rosario: folds
Napper: folds
Napper sits back
Paulen001: folds
Mechanism: folds
Bamford: calls 50
Foaming_h: raises to 300
Bamford: calls 200
----- FLOP ----- [ As]
Bamford: bets 100
Foaming_h: raises to 400
Bamford: calls 300
----- TURN ----- [ As][]
Bamford: checks
Foaming_h: bets 990 and is all-in
Bamford: folds
Returned uncalled bets 990 to Foaming_h
Foaming_h: doesn't show hand
Foaming_h collects 1400 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 1400 Main pot 1400 Rake 0
Board [ As ]
Seat 1: Foaming_h (big blind) collected 1400
Seat 3: Chriss005 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Biffo27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Boy687 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Rosario folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Napper folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Paulen001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Mechanism (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Bamford (small blind) folded on the Turn

[byronkincaid]

min-raising with a lot of hands in various positions, and the fact that he called a lot of flop bets but folded to many turn and river bets

Very fishy? I think this is pretty good play early on in a tourney Probably not the sort of player I'd be trying to bluff at this stage and with him having so many chips.

Anyway this is just a blind v blind game of chicken. He's probably trying to represent the flush but you put an end to that by going all in. He should have pushed first on the turn.

Personally this is too early for me to try this sort of move but aggression is good and it worked so nice play.

[thetank]

Never bluffed in my life mate so can't really bring anything to this. 

[NoflopsHomer]

Wasn't it 85off you had on Simon Trumper's blind?

[thetank]

That was a value bet, I knew what was coming.

Small point but it wasn't his blind. He came over the top of me in middle position with KJo.
He knew with a high degree of cetainty that I had absolute trash. I may have doubled up, but it sure as hell shut me up. (Well, it would have if I weren't a jock on a mission)

  to ACES.

[temp0r]

took alot of guts with another diamond on the board and possible straights. but nice read i guess.

[ifm]

What is this "bluff" thingy?
 

[moritzey]

Come on, this wasn't a proper bluff, you had the gutshot straight draw ...

[ifm]

So noone wants to explain what a "bluff" is then?
Used to be so helpful on here............................

[thetank]

Ok, no-one else going to do take this one?

Just for you ifm, a "bluff" is a steep headland, promontory, riverbank, or cliff.



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[Jayb]

Posted by: moritzey 

Come on, this wasn't a proper bluff, you had the gutshot straight draw 

Moritzey is right, this was only a half bluff, but I guess that most of the time this would probably be the case, when you go all in you want to represent the strongest hand and if you do get called you usually want at least a couple of outs.

The only problem with an all in move bluff IMO is that it can be a sign of weakness/bullying as you are trying to get people off of the pot which if you had a strong hand you wouldn’t really want to do…..unless of course you wanted me to think you were weak, so I guess it comes down to your opponent getting the right read on you.

[WellChief]

Here's a 100%er bluff.  The guy was playing weakly after flops and i felt i could win most pots against him. Hilariously the guy said, nh, then Kings, before folding and me showing.


------HAND 5------
Game #1687431964: Hold'em NL (£2/£5) - 2006/02/09 - 11:19:22 (ET)
Table "Vallejo" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: SmalaPer (£479.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Criztal (£530 in chips)
Seat 3: Batman019 (£60 in chips)
Seat 4: bronk1 (£581 in chips)
Seat 5: WChief (£604 in chips)
Seat 6: Equis (£493.65 in chips)
bronk1: posts small blind £2
WChief: posts big blind £5
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to WChief [ ]
Equis: folds
SmalaPer: folds
Criztal: folds
Batman019: folds
bronk1: raises to £20
WChief: calls £15
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
bronk1: bets £25
WChief: calls £25
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
bronk1: checks
WChief: bets £40
bronk1: calls £40
----- RIVER ----- [ ][]
bronk1: checks
WChief: bets £85
bronk1: folds
Returned uncalled bets £85 to WChief
----- SHOW DOWN -----
WChief: shows [ ] (A Pair of Nines, King high)
WChief collects £167 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot £170 Main pot £167 Rake £3
Board [ ]
Seat 1: SmalaPer folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Criztal folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Batman019 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: bronk1 (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 5: WChief (big blind) showed [ ] and won (£167) with A Pair of Nines, King high
Seat 6: Equis folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[ACE2M]

I almost called someone in a huge pot last night on the river because i just knew he was bluffing but sadly i bottled it with ace high and showed me the bluff after i congratulated him on it and folded.

The moral was don't give up after getting called on the turn, lump the rest in on the river as he still might fold.