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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2019, 04:20:18 PM »

People always forget there isn't a bottomless pot of public money. In this instance we're asking the question whether tax payers should fund the inefficient BBC instead of other projects and causes? The debate meanders off into tangents of lonely poor old folk giving up "essential life-saving products" and food or telly questions. But wait. BBC can just have advert breaks and stop charging the poor old folk a fee to watch. Or stop paying presenters and execs a gazillion pounds per annum. Hey presto, go buy your liver & bacon grandad because a free episode of Eggheads is about to start. It really isn't a "society" question about "morality" or such shit.   
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2019, 04:28:19 PM »

People always forget there isn't a bottomless pot of public money. In this instance we're asking the question whether tax payers should fund the inefficient BBC instead of other projects and causes? The debate meanders off into tangents of lonely poor old folk giving up "essential life-saving products" and food or telly questions. But wait. BBC can just have advert breaks and stop charging the poor old folk a fee to watch. Or stop paying presenters and execs a gazillion pounds per annum. Hey presto, go buy your liver & bacon grandad because a free episode of Eggheads is about to start. It really isn't a "society" question about "morality" or such shit.   

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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2019, 04:32:17 PM »

Yea agree, why doesn't the BBC have adverts? I don't think the population would be very bothered would they?
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2019, 04:36:23 PM »

They watch more telly than younger people. They should be grateful it's not been doubled!
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2019, 04:56:07 PM »

They watch more telly than younger people. They should be grateful it's not been doubled!

The current system is basically that the people who don't watch the BBC pay the licence fee so that the people who do watch will get it for free Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2019, 05:04:56 PM »

They watch more telly than younger people. They should be grateful it's not been doubled!

The current system is basically that the people who don't watch the BBC pay the licence fee so that the people who do watch will get it for free Cheesy

They do D-Day, I pay for their telly. Seems like a good deal to me
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2019, 05:10:54 PM »

They watch more telly than younger people. They should be grateful it's not been doubled!

The current system is basically that the people who don't watch the BBC pay the licence fee so that the people who do watch will get it for free Cheesy

They do D-Day, I pay for their telly. Seems like a good deal to me

A 75 year old was born in 1944 - I don't think many of them did D Day
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2019, 05:18:10 PM »

They watch more telly than younger people. They should be grateful it's not been doubled!

The current system is basically that the people who don't watch the BBC pay the licence fee so that the people who do watch will get it for free Cheesy

They do D-Day, I pay for their telly. Seems like a good deal to me

A 75 year old was born in 1944 - I don't think many of them did D Day

It began in 2000.
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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2019, 05:23:42 PM »

They watch more telly than younger people. They should be grateful it's not been doubled!

The current system is basically that the people who don't watch the BBC pay the licence fee so that the people who do watch will get it for free Cheesy

They do D-Day, I pay for their telly. Seems like a good deal to me

A 75 year old was born in 1944 - I don't think many of them did D Day

It began in 2000.

It's not 2000 anymore :|
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2019, 05:32:58 PM »

They watch more telly than younger people. They should be grateful it's not been doubled!

The current system is basically that the people who don't watch the BBC pay the licence fee so that the people who do watch will get it for free Cheesy

They do D-Day, I pay for their telly. Seems like a good deal to me

A 75 year old was born in 1944 - I don't think many of them did D Day

It began in 2000.

It's not 2000 anymore :|

It’s a bit of a surprise (maybe shouldn’t be) that the very old are next in the crosshairs. (I’m aware some of the comments are jokes/satire)
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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2019, 05:41:21 PM »

Does Blonde have a “heavy sarcasm” gif / symbol?

(So Red doesn’t have to get snippy 😉)

ps. btw how wrong I was about gov subsidy for the 75ers 
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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2019, 05:57:20 PM »

Does Blonde have a “heavy sarcasm” gif / symbol?

(So Red doesn’t have to get snippy 😉)

ps. btw how wrong I was about gov subsidy for the 75ers 


Snippy? Moi?

Jon and I can do a bit of verbal fencing without falling out, Mantis likewise. (Although he really is a tosser sometimes)

PS- Note explicit lack of heavy sarcasm symbol.
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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2019, 05:58:03 PM »

They watch more telly than younger people. They should be grateful it's not been doubled!

The current system is basically that the people who don't watch the BBC pay the licence fee so that the people who do watch will get it for free Cheesy

They do D-Day, I pay for their telly. Seems like a good deal to me

Free TV licence is for 75+ not just those exactly 75 , so not sure what point youre trying to make there

A 75 year old was born in 1944 - I don't think many of them did D Day
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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2019, 06:27:25 PM »

They watch more telly than younger people. They should be grateful it's not been doubled!

The current system is basically that the people who don't watch the BBC pay the licence fee so that the people who do watch will get it for free Cheesy

They do D-Day, I pay for their telly. Seems like a good deal to me

Free TV licence is for 75+ not just those exactly 75 , so not sure what point youre trying to make there

A 75 year old was born in 1944 - I don't think many of them did D Day

About 8% of the population are over 75, about 2% are over 85 and you'd have to be over 90 for D Day to be relevant.

On a more analytical note, benefits should serve one of 3 purposes:

1. a reward - free TV licenses for D Day veterans and their partners would  be a great policy (although should have been implemented at least 25 years ago if it was done.)
2. an incentive - I don't think pensioners really need an incentive to watch the BBC
3. or necessity - the basic reason for benefits, because people are poor. This is what the BBC want to reform the system to.

The system as it is now is none of the above.
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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2019, 07:10:00 PM »

The cynical among us will reckon the BBC making this announcement during the Tory leadership campaign is no coincidence. Personally I think the licence fee is outdated , must be a better way to fund BBC?
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