How many Fu**ing times is it going to happen?

[RED-DOG]

Quite specatcular

painted on the road by DC Council leading up to the WH

I'm not believing it.

[Doobs]

Quite specatcular

painted on the road by DC Council leading up to the WH

I'm not believing it.

I was thinking someone has just drawn that on the photo, but it is real

https://twitter.com/MurielBowser/status/1268916115809488896

[RED-DOG]

Quite specatcular

painted on the road by DC Council leading up to the WH

I'm not believing it.

I was thinking someone has just drawn that on the photo, but it is real

https://twitter.com/MurielBowser/status/1268916115809488896

Wow!

[Karabiner]

Quite spectacular from the mayor.

[Doobs]

Quite specatcular

painted on the road by DC Council leading up to the WH

I'm not believing it.

I was thinking someone has just drawn that on the photo, but it is real

https://twitter.com/MurielBowser/status/1268916115809488896

Wow!

The Tangoed one took it well https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1269043981461184514

[Marky147]

Never takes anything badly, being a stable genius.

[kukushkin88]

Good morning

Lots to like in this tweet:

https://twitter.com/down_w_lcc/status/1269449969754206208?s=21

[teddybloat]

i'm not buying the idea that this was a racially motivated incident or that black people have more to fear from the police than any other group -  the statistics simply do not back that claim up

the cop was a somebody who had 18 complaints against him and also someone who knew mr floyd.

this wasnt an indiscriminate incident where all the cop knew was mr floyds race. the officer had worked with floyd-  he knew him.

so we have to ask did he dislike or mistreat floyd because of his skin colour, or because he knew him?

if you knew floyd you;d likely dislike him. he and five other men invaded the home of a pregant lady and he held a gun to her belly as they robbed her.

now on balance i'm guessing information like that is more likely to be behind the mistreatment of floyd than his skin colour.

BLM is a socialist movement.

it is calling for the public ownership of businesses, redistribution of funds and forms of segregation. it's spinning a dangerous narrative that places racial identity above all other concepts and preaches that black people have to fear whites and a system of racisim.

this is palpable bullshit.

west indain immigrants outperform whites in america. you cannot tell by sight if a person is of  west indian heritage or an american born black. yet the structurally racist system somehow discerns the difference and allows the west indian blacks to do etter than their white children. asian americans spank everybody -  to the point where they have to get better grades than whites and blacks to gain entry to universities. is a system structurally racist if minority immigrants do best under it? no it dangerous bullshit, and people should speak up/

i did not kill george floyd. you did not kill geroge floyd. a racist system did not kill him

a bad cop who knew him did.

the policing in america [and over here] is getting progressively worse and people would be right to violently protest against that. but endorsing racial hatred, sliding in communist aims and instilling a victim / oppressor mentality where non exists is wicked.

worth noting that when he died mr floyd had enough fentanyl in his system to kill an average person -  his size and tolerance for that drug meant it was not leathal. he also topped up with meth as well. i'm not even sure that applying a legally alllowed restraint hold counts as full on murder in these circumstances. manslaughter maybe. we will see when it is tested in court. imagine if he is acquitted?

[Karabiner]

In other news I'm off to show some support at the BLM peaceful protest on The Forest Recreation Ground in Nottingham.

I'll be more than happy to "take a knee" there.

As long as the police are not disguised as squirrels they should be safe from the hound.

[kukushkin88]

In other news I'm off to show some support at the BLM peaceful protest on The Forest Recreation Ground in Nottingham.

I'll be more than happy to "take a knee" there.

As long as the police are not disguised as squirrels they should be safe from the hound.

Good stuff, take care, it seems increasingly likely to kick off.

[kukushkin88]

i'm not buying the idea that this was a racially motivated incident or that black people have more to fear from the police than any other group -  the statistics simply do not back that claim up

the cop was a somebody who had 18 complaints against him and also someone who knew mr floyd.

this wasnt an indiscriminate incident where all the cop knew was mr floyds race. the officer had worked with floyd-  he knew him.

so we have to ask did he dislike or mistreat floyd because of his skin colour, or because he knew him?

if you knew floyd you;d likely dislike him. he and five other men invaded the home of a pregant lady and he held a gun to her belly as they robbed her.

now on balance i'm guessing information like that is more likely to be behind the mistreatment of floyd than his skin colour.

BLM is a socialist movement.

it is calling for the public ownership of businesses, redistribution of funds and forms of segregation. it's spinning a dangerous narrative that places racial identity above all other concepts and preaches that black people have to fear whites and a system of racisim.

this is palpable bullshit.

west indain immigrants outperform whites in america. you cannot tell by sight if a person is of  west indian heritage or an american born black. yet the structurally racist system somehow discerns the difference and allows the west indian blacks to do etter than their white children. asian americans spank everybody -  to the point where they have to get better grades than whites and blacks to gain entry to universities. is a system structurally racist if minority immigrants do best under it? no it dangerous bullshit, and people should speak up/

i did not kill george floyd. you did not kill geroge floyd. a racist system did not kill him

a bad cop who knew him did.

the policing in america [and over here] is getting progressively worse and people would be right to violently protest against that. but endorsing racial hatred, sliding in communist aims and instilling a victim / oppressor mentality where non exists is wicked.

worth noting that when he died mr floyd had enough fentanyl in his system to kill an average person -  his size and tolerance for that drug meant it was not leathal. he also topped up with meth as well. i'm not even sure that applying a legally alllowed restraint hold counts as full on murder in these circumstances. manslaughter maybe. we will see when it is tested in court. imagine if he is acquitted?

There’s lots wrong with this post. Can we see the evidence for the first paragraph?

Seems to be loads of studies say different and that evidence is lacking:
(a number of studies linked in this article)
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/latest-research-tells-us-racial-bias-policing/story?id=70994421

[RED-DOG]

i'm not buying the idea that this was a racially motivated incident or that black people have more to fear from the police than any other group -  the statistics simply do not back that claim up

the cop was a somebody who had 18 complaints against him and also someone who knew mr floyd.

this wasnt an indiscriminate incident where all the cop knew was mr floyds race. the officer had worked with floyd-  he knew him.

so we have to ask did he dislike or mistreat floyd because of his skin colour, or because he knew him?

if you knew floyd you;d likely dislike him. he and five other men invaded the home of a pregant lady and he held a gun to her belly as they robbed her.

now on balance i'm guessing information like that is more likely to be behind the mistreatment of floyd than his skin colour.

BLM is a socialist movement.

it is calling for the public ownership of businesses, redistribution of funds and forms of segregation. it's spinning a dangerous narrative that places racial identity above all other concepts and preaches that black people have to fear whites and a system of racisim.

this is palpable bullshit.

west indain immigrants outperform whites in america. you cannot tell by sight if a person is of  west indian heritage or an american born black. yet the structurally racist system somehow discerns the difference and allows the west indian blacks to do etter than their white children. asian americans spank everybody -  to the point where they have to get better grades than whites and blacks to gain entry to universities. is a system structurally racist if minority immigrants do best under it? no it dangerous bullshit, and people should speak up/

i did not kill george floyd. you did not kill geroge floyd. a racist system did not kill him

a bad cop who knew him did.

the policing in america [and over here] is getting progressively worse and people would be right to violently protest against that. but endorsing racial hatred, sliding in communist aims and instilling a victim / oppressor mentality where non exists is wicked.

worth noting that when he died mr floyd had enough fentanyl in his system to kill an average person -  his size and tolerance for that drug meant it was not leathal. he also topped up with meth as well. i'm not even sure that applying a legally alllowed restraint hold counts as full on murder in these circumstances. manslaughter maybe. we will see when it is tested in court. imagine if he is acquitted?

There’s lots wrong with this post. Can we see the evidence for the first paragraph?

Seems to be loads of studies say different and that evidence is lacking:
(a number of studies linked in this article)
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/latest-research-tells-us-racial-bias-policing/story?id=70994421

Teddy has a bite....

[teddybloat]

that article makes the very common mistake of using per capita comparisons.

they go like this

black people make up x % of the population

but

black people make up y % of death by cop


this should be intuitively obvious why it is statistically illiterate, but in case it isn't consider this:

males make up 50% of the population

but

males make up 90%+ of death by cop

therefore the police hate men

the fact is men commit more crime and have disproportionately more encounters with the police than women. well the same is true of black people. black people commit more crimes and have disproportionately more encounters with the police.

so we have to compare the results of police interactions

per 10k arrests of white people for violent crime 4 white people are killed

per 10k of arrests of black people for violent crime 3 black people are killed.

by almost every metric per police encounter, black people are slightly less likely to be killed by cops than white peole. this holds in the UK also where you are more likely to die from being in police custody if you are white than black. the differences are negligible, but there.

now if you want to say that black people being economically poorer and more likely to be from broken homes is the reason their crime rate is higher i would agree. and you could go onto argue that that is evidence of systemic racism in the US -  you would then havre to explain the success of west indain immigrants -  but you cannot say that the police force [often majority blakc in some cities] is racist and murdering black people.

well you could, but that facts do not supprt you

[kukushkin88]

i'm not buying the idea that this was a racially motivated incident or that black people have more to fear from the police than any other group -  the statistics simply do not back that claim up

the cop was a somebody who had 18 complaints against him and also someone who knew mr floyd.

this wasnt an indiscriminate incident where all the cop knew was mr floyds race. the officer had worked with floyd-  he knew him.

so we have to ask did he dislike or mistreat floyd because of his skin colour, or because he knew him?

if you knew floyd you;d likely dislike him. he and five other men invaded the home of a pregant lady and he held a gun to her belly as they robbed her.

now on balance i'm guessing information like that is more likely to be behind the mistreatment of floyd than his skin colour.

BLM is a socialist movement.

it is calling for the public ownership of businesses, redistribution of funds and forms of segregation. it's spinning a dangerous narrative that places racial identity above all other concepts and preaches that black people have to fear whites and a system of racisim.

this is palpable bullshit.

west indain immigrants outperform whites in america. you cannot tell by sight if a person is of  west indian heritage or an american born black. yet the structurally racist system somehow discerns the difference and allows the west indian blacks to do etter than their white children. asian americans spank everybody -  to the point where they have to get better grades than whites and blacks to gain entry to universities. is a system structurally racist if minority immigrants do best under it? no it dangerous bullshit, and people should speak up/

i did not kill george floyd. you did not kill geroge floyd. a racist system did not kill him

a bad cop who knew him did.

the policing in america [and over here] is getting progressively worse and people would be right to violently protest against that. but endorsing racial hatred, sliding in communist aims and instilling a victim / oppressor mentality where non exists is wicked.

worth noting that when he died mr floyd had enough fentanyl in his system to kill an average person -  his size and tolerance for that drug meant it was not leathal. he also topped up with meth as well. i'm not even sure that applying a legally alllowed restraint hold counts as full on murder in these circumstances. manslaughter maybe. we will see when it is tested in court. imagine if he is acquitted?

There’s lots wrong with this post. Can we see the evidence for the first paragraph?

Seems to be loads of studies say different and that evidence is lacking:
(a number of studies linked in this article)
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/latest-research-tells-us-racial-bias-policing/story?id=70994421

Teddy has a bite....

Can’t let inaccurate statements go unchallenged, especially if they are said with the sort of conviction that might lead to them being mistaken for reality.

[kukushkin88]

that article makes the very common mistake of using per capita comparisons.

they go like this

black people make up x % of the population

but

black people make up y % of death by cop


this should be intuitively obvious why it is statistically illiterate, but in case it isn't consider this:

males make up 50% of the population

but

males make up 90%+ of death by cop

therefore the police hate men

the fact is men commit more crime and have disproportionately more encounters with the police than women. well the same is true of black people. black people commit more crimes and have disproportionately more encounters with the police.

so we have to compare the results of police interactions

per 10k arrests of white people for violent crime 4 white people are killed

per 10k of arrests of black people for violent crime 3 black people are killed.

by almost every metric per police encounter, black people are slightly less likely to be killed by cops than white peole. this holds in the UK also where you are more likely to die from being in police custody if you are white than black. the differences are negligible, but there.

now if you want to say that black people being economically poorer and more likely to be from broken homes is the reason their crime rate is higher i would agree. and you could go onto argue that that is evidence of systemic racism in the US -  you would then havre to explain the success of west indain immigrants -  but you cannot say that the police force [often majority blakc in some cities] is racist and murdering black people.

well you could, but that facts do not supprt you

The penultimate paragraph is one of the first things that came to mind, a complex issue that I certainly don’t have all the answers to. My problems would be with systemic racism across all societies. I’d be interested to see the data that that so comprehensively dismisses the police brutality angle in your eyes.