Breeders Cup Thread

[Marky147]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1456764532110635009


Brilliant jockey cam footage this

Weave me up!

[Karabiner]

Let's hope that unfortunate stalls handler doesn't get lumbered with a massive medical bill as per usual in the USA

[horseplayer]

Horrible incident surprised a couple of the others including the well-fancied Dakota Gold have not been withdrawn sure it got struck into

[tikay]

Did they just say Modern Games will run but will not be in the betting?

[horseplayer]

Modern Games scratched and taken out of the market on the US Tote he is still running but not for betting purposes

Confused yep

[horseplayer]

Did they just say Modern Games will run but will not be in the betting?

Still out over here as well when they jump, what a mess

This one is going to be a mess for the firms to sort out

[tikay]

Lordy, the bookies CC staff are in for a trying night...

[horseplayer]

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Tiz the Bomb wins for coming 2nd

[horseplayer]

Lordy, the bookies CC staff are in for a trying night...

All sorts of implications as win were markets everywhere for number of euro "winners" tonight for example

[Doobs]

Ha, was only half watching that and was massively confused as to why he was still running and why he was also shown as scratched.   Very impressive tho.

[Marky147]

Just watched it back and that was impressive.

Great shout with yours, horsey.

[tikay]

I gather that Sky (& I guess most others) paid out on both "winners" in that race.

A very odd situation.

[alanc]

3 placed on my e/w lucky 15. Thanks Horse.

[horseplayer]

Np Alan crossbar day here but pretty happy with how they nearly all went.

The day was probably summed up by a tweet congratulating Bob Baffert from a course where he is banned from having runners for 2 years. Watching back Corniche ran you wouldn't bet odds on there wasn't some help the fractions she went..... The odious Matt Chapman continues to put up Baffert as some kind of god figure weird at best.

The aftermath of the last continues lots of slips from the states with pick 4's and 6's where they had winning tickets onto the "winner" and actually ended up on Dakota Gold who not only did they not select was struck into pre-race and almost certainly lame before and during the race, a real mess and although we have had all bad beats in this game that would be hard to top.

The excellent Andy Serling summed it up well just now with this tweet.

Andy Serling
@andyserling
With the benefit of a little sleep and a little hindsight, here's the bottom line as I see it....there are two stakeholders in this game, bettors, and owners, and we have to do the best possible job of protecting both, and never one at the expense of another.


Thought the track was racing fair hard to be sure about any dirt bias as the fancied winners from the front were not pressured early at all, the turf looked very fair with only the very dreamest of runs allowing deep closers as expected (see jockey cam tweet) The turf horses that got relatively easy leads were not particularly fancied so being handy is still preferred for me.

Will post thoughts for tonight in a few hours.

[Karabiner]

Np Alan crossbar day here but pretty happy with how they nearly all went.

The day was probably summed up by a tweet congratulating Bob Baffert from a course where he is banned from having runners for 2 years. Watching back Corniche ran you wouldn't bet odds on there wasn't some help the fractions she went..... The odious Matt Chapman continues to put up Baffert as some kind of god figure weird at best.

The aftermath of the last continues lots of slips from the states with pick 4's and 6's where they had winning tickets onto the "winner" and actually ended up on Dakota Gold who not only did they not select was struck into pre-race and almost certainly lame before and during the race, a real mess and although we have had all bad beats in this game that would be hard to top.

The excellent Andy Serling summed it up well just now with this tweet.

Andy Serling
@andyserling
With the benefit of a little sleep and a little hindsight, here's the bottom line as I see it....there are two stakeholders in this game, bettors, and owners, and we have to do the best possible job of protecting both, and never one at the expense of another.


Thought the track was racing fair hard to be sure about any dirt bias as the fancied winners from the front were not pressured early at all, the turf looked very fair with only the very dreamest of runs allowing deep closers as expected (see jockey cam tweet) The turf horses that got relatively easy leads were not particularly fancied so being handy is still preferred for me.

Will post thoughts for tonight in a few hours.

I do think that the two Charlie Appleby horses being grouped together as an "entry"(usually 1&1a on the racecard) for tote betting purposes contributed to the subsequent fiasco after one of them was scratched.