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« Reply #30 on: February 20, 2006, 11:38:03 AM »

I was following this story last week. I'm not surprised that this goes on.
If this is going on in tournaments it still requires a little bit of skill to get through, but I'm more concerned that this takes place in Ring games where someone coud occupy 2 seats or more. Imagine having 2 seats in a short-handed game - you could have a big big advantage calculating odds if you could see 2 more cards and easily clean up.

The best solution can only be to ban multiple accounts logging on from the same IP address. This may hurt wireless network users, but I don't think there is a safer way, at the moment, of policing this. Even if this can be bypassed it's a start. I know some online poker rooms do this already.
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« Reply #31 on: February 20, 2006, 11:59:32 AM »

its about time that these sites took basic steps to stop multi accounts playing in same comps by logging ip numbers only 1 account per ip can play in a comp

that should be a first basic step

But even that can be got around easily enough, if you are really determined.

- connect each wireless pc in your home network to an external VPN, then you will get different IP addresses
- Buy fixed IP addresses from your service provider, and assign them each of the machines on connection.

etc etc...




that should be a first basic step
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« Reply #32 on: February 20, 2006, 05:05:03 PM »

Interestingly Crypto already bans same IP from entering a tourney or sitting at the same table.  Myself and Tony Chessa found this out in Copenhagen when we couldn't get into the big January tourney.
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« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2006, 05:45:18 PM »

Guess you can't keep em away....He's been playing $100/200 HU on stars...Now playing the $200 omaha MTT LOL

Does he use the same name, Bundle?
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« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2006, 05:52:55 PM »

What's so wrong with multi-accounting?
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« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2006, 05:56:40 PM »

What's so wrong with multi-accounting?


playing in the same comp under 2 names is pure cheating
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« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2006, 06:01:43 PM »

Why is it cheating? You cant sit on the same table so both entries do not have an effect on each others results. Loads of people play 2 accounts in big crypto tournys, under 2 different skins, it doesnt help either player because you cant sit on the same table.
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« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2006, 06:03:00 PM »

For it to be out and out cheating you need to gain an advantage, the only advantage you get is 2 lifes and you pay for that privledge anyway.
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« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2006, 06:04:06 PM »

its cheating

plus on party you can sit on the same table
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« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2006, 06:05:31 PM »

Well that is different then because you could gain an advantage.
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« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2006, 06:07:02 PM »

It seems to me that this is amazingly easy way to cheat Imagine sitting at a 6 handed 5/10 nl game and being able to see 2 sets of hands or start raising war to drive players out ect...  It should be one accout per IP address for a start . the problem being that if people want to cheat they will find a way wether it is IM or on the phone even routing through a proxy server to ping a fake IP is probably possible . IT is strange that there a lot of pro players beating the game , only the bad ones feel the need to cheat. Inferioty complex anyoone?
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« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2006, 06:09:26 PM »

Why is it cheating? You cant sit on the same table so both entries do not have an effect on each others results. Loads of people play 2 accounts in big crypto tournys, under 2 different skins, it doesnt help either player because you cant sit on the same table.

Duabi , What happens if 2 flatmates make the final table using the same IP? Two laptops for example? They have done nothing irregular so what is cryptos move?
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« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2006, 06:16:11 PM »

duabi

let say you won the lottery this week and said hello WSOP here i come and decide that you wanted to play

but just to make sure you dont get knocked out 2 early you buy in 7 or 8 times can you see a problem?

i sure can

well that is what these guys are doing
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« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2006, 06:17:06 PM »

One of them wont be able to see their cards. Ive seen it happen at Gutshots Internet Room. 2 players in same tourny, neither knew. All of the sudden they get put on same table and one of them cant play.
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« Reply #44 on: February 20, 2006, 06:18:43 PM »

Why is it cheating? You cant sit on the same table so both entries do not have an effect on each others results. Loads of people play 2 accounts in big crypto tournys, under 2 different skins, it doesnt help either player because you cant sit on the same table.

Surely the risk of being moved to the same table, and thus one player being blinded out, makes this a -EV plan anyway?
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