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« on: February 27, 2006, 05:24:04 PM »

We are down to 8 in the final.  I have about 60k in chips my opponent has about 50k. Average is about 35k blinds .5k/1k.  My notes on opponent are "a bit fishy" - don't know what he did to deserve that or when he did it, but he must've displayed at least inexperience at some time.  However, he has made the final of a $500 tourny in good chip shape.   

I miniraise from early position with

(I miniraise a lot in the later stages of tournaments whether it's right or not is a different debate)

I obviously hope to get a reraise, but on this occasion I get a middle position caller, a cutoff call and the BB makes up.  hmmmmm

Flop: 

I bet 9k

Middle position folds, Cutoff with 50k goes all-in without hesitation, button folds.

Back to me for a decision.

What would you do?

   
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2006, 05:29:05 PM »

What are the blinds?
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2006, 05:44:36 PM »

What are the blinds?


post amended thanks

(Was going to say "can't you read")
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2006, 06:29:47 PM »

Tough one that, but I'm tempted to call. I'd say that it's a "feel"  situation.

On a slight tangent, I noticed an impostor playing on Laddies recently called "Karabina".

What a liberty !  dad dont dance
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2006, 06:51:20 PM »

Karabina, could just be a fan?

As for the decision, it is a difficult one. The temptation not to fold a pair of aces must be great, also with 2 clubs on the board there is an outside chance of a flush. I am fairly sure that I would call, but that isn't to say that this is the right move. If he has a pair of tens you are only at just over 10% to win. If he has two pair you are still only at 30% to win. Of course he could have just have top pair, making you a massive favourite.

I would stick with my first instinct to call.
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2006, 06:58:28 PM »

Instant Call.

To me this a great flop for black aces. He could have 2 clubs but you are ahead and your 1 club takes away an out. If he has a set he flat calls. To me his bet screams KT or KQ of clubs.

How did the hand pan out?
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2006, 07:51:19 PM »

Tough one that, but I'm tempted to call. I'd say that it's a "feel"  situation.

On a slight tangent, I noticed an impostor playing on Laddies recently called "Karabina".

What a liberty !  dad dont dance

I dispatched that gentleman with a flush draw that came good, thought it was you Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2006, 07:57:24 PM »

call
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2006, 08:29:47 PM »

I did call mainly because a drawing type hand was IMO a likely outcome and I couldn't believe a set would be played in that way - I saw  .  (well done Canuck)

I posted this hand mainly because my opponent (in observer chat) appeared to think that I could've folded and I just wanted to check what others would have done.  I was going to reply "I called because my notes said you were a bit fishy", but held my tongue....

I won't ask you all what you would do with AK heads up on a JJT flop ... fold ....fold...fold.....

Still the $10k second prize is taking me to the main event in Monte next week (as long as I can stay away from th Crypto NL for 6 days).



 
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2006, 05:32:31 PM »

Played last night in a local pub game. I get pocket aces and my raise is called. Flop comes up:
 
Short stack has half my amount in chips and goes all in. I am sure he has something but put him on probably having top pair. I call and he shows
 
Life's just not fair. Sad
Later on I make a raise of 5 times the blind with Jack Ace and I am called by a  fish with King Seven. Flop comes up with a King. Then I make a pair of queens and same player beats me two hands in a row with a better kicker and then... oh you don't really want to hear all this and I can't afford the bad beat fine. I just had a bad night and ended up at the bar muttering about fish making bad calls that end up beating me.
 
That feels better now I have got that off my chest.

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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2006, 09:41:29 PM »

You called, you had the best hand.

What more can you do?
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2006, 02:20:20 AM »

That is a VERY tough one.

For me, its a decision based on who I am playing with. If I feel that I am outclassed, it is an instant call. If I feel that I have the players at my "beck and call" , i possibly fold.

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2006, 03:03:01 AM »

This is the easiest call ive ever seen.
 

If this is a a -EV long term call then im a buddhist monk.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2006, 03:10:52 AM »

That is a VERY tough one.

For me, its a decision based on who I am playing with. If I feel that I am outclassed, it is an instant call. If I feel that I have the players at my "beck and call" , i possibly fold.


I really dont understand this statement. For me its completely incorrect.
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2006, 06:33:42 PM »

I believe M3Boy is saying that if the players he is playing against are better then him and that hand comes up...get the chips in the middle as quick as possible.

If the players he is playing against are not as good as him...why take the chance of a miracle flop versus aces for some other player and risk his life when if he folds he will win later in a hand with less risk

I may be wrong though lol
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