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« on: July 05, 2005, 10:08:47 AM »

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/poker/columns/story?columnist=rosenbloom_steve&id=2100457

Simon, would you like to clarify this? I don't want to criticise, firstly because I haven't seen/heard anything to suggest that the slow roll is your style, secondly I haven't heard both sides of the story and thirdly it's not in the spirit of this forum.

Furthermore I don't have a lot of time for those who call you names and ruin the comments section of your blog

I would like to hear your side of this, and whether the journalist's report is accurate

Finally, congratulations on your result, nearly a v big one.
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2005, 10:46:29 AM »

After coming back from the Rio, Simon read the ESPN article and was so furious that he went back there to talk to the tournament director and the reporter...In 2 words, Barny, Peter Costa and Huck Seed were on the table and they all said to the tournament director that Simon took less than 2 mn to raise (after checking the nut), and he never slow rolled his cards...He just out played a great player.
He will reply to your post when he'll come back or tomorrow morning...
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2005, 10:51:02 AM »

Even great players are not, it seems, immune from going out on emotional tilt after getting bust out of a tournament.
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2005, 10:52:40 AM »

I doubt if Simon took 10 minutes to act. Now Carlo, that would be an instant decision  Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2005, 11:01:53 AM »

Can we all say 'bad loser'?  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2005, 11:03:24 AM »

There's a thread on the same article on 2+2 which has prompted a little more discussion than here. I'm not aware that Simon posts on 2+2 so, assuming its OK with Simon and Tikay, I'll copy any response he makes here onto that thread.

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2005, 11:24:49 AM »

Definitely a case of bad loser.

Well played Simon.  Now win the big one!!
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2005, 12:52:00 PM »


I don't know the facts of this case - though I heard dozens of "second hand versions" - but if Simon has been attacked for improper conduct, he is most certainly welcome to defend such accusations on the Poker 425 blonde Forum if he so wished. But give him a bit of time, the fella was gutted when he busted out.

No judgement shoud be made in these matters until both sides have had a chance to put their side of the story.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2005, 12:58:21 PM »

Be interesting when they bump into each other  Shocked
Truth will out, there were others on the table so it shall become clear, either way the dwell up was a very effective tool that got one of the worlds finest players to pay off the nuts. Slow rolling? i don't agree with it but judging by Simon's reaction he is very much aggrieved and so i gotta say i believe him. As i said there were witnesses so it's hard for him to lie.
I like what Simon said to the morons that posted in his blog, i'll have 10 on Simon  Grin
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2005, 01:10:21 PM »

Wow, Mr Charity is certainly not a happy chappy, any chance on somebody giving odds on these two settling it in the ring.

5 on the Aces to knock out the Mr Charity. That nose is just to bigger target.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2005, 03:49:33 PM »

If Barry Greenstein had a problem with the time taken, he should have called for the clock. That's what it is there for.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2005, 05:04:58 PM »

even if simon did take 5mins, i wouldnt have a problem with it in this case, he obviously thought this was the correct way to get the chips off his opp,  sometimes u have to do this in order to get the last few chips they have

the only time it is slow rolling is if they are all-in and u have the stone cold nutz and take 20 min to call!!

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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2005, 05:06:56 PM »

Slow rolling is taking time to turn the cards over isn't it?
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2005, 05:10:14 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2005, 05:32:56 PM »

I played 10 10 in the Gala 100 on sunday. I raised full pot to 300 (25/50 stage) and got 2 callers. Flop came 10 10 4... I check..aggresive player bets full pot 1k other player passes i think for 2 mins give stare and flat call.... turn card is a 7 ....I check...same player bets full pot 2k...I think for 2 mins and flat call big stare again ....river is a 2... I check AP is all in and I call for remaining 2k  and show my hand.

1 or 2 players on the table were critical of my play but I know this player has missed the flop and I must appear very weak to get paid....to me thats poker. I did not over dwell but I did want to trap the player to gain as much of his chips as possible. For the record he held A 7 off suit.
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