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Topic: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY (Read 76421 times)
JaffaCake
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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Reply #255 on:
March 26, 2006, 07:31:30 PM »
Go on Marky...only thing we hear from him is taking down big pots, that'll do nicely.
Paul you want me to hold your jacket?
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snoopy1239
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:32:05 PM »
Quote from: JaffaCake on March 26, 2006, 07:31:30 PM
Go on Marky...only thing we hear from him is taking down big pots, that'll do nicely.
Paul you want me to hold your jacket?
I'll hold it?
How much is it worth?
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LLevan
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:33:12 PM »
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Markyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:36:57 PM »
Quote from: Highstack on March 26, 2006, 07:31:11 PM
The criticism was why not raise the flop to avoid any potential heartache? (at that stage he didn't know the K was coming!)
Maybe he wanted to take a turn before commiting, see if it slows down the maniac and also see if no spade comes, if he raises the flop and gets set in, does he call?
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actionjack
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:37:10 PM »
Quote from: snoopy1239 on March 26, 2006, 07:32:05 PM
Quote from: JaffaCake on March 26, 2006, 07:31:30 PM
Go on Marky...only thing we hear from him is taking down big pots, that'll do nicely.
Paul you want me to hold your jacket?
I'll hold it?
How much is it worth?
seems every one is entitled to their opinion on the play other than me or at least if i give my opinion i get rewarded by a snide comment if it doesnt agree with that of certain individuals
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T8MML
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:37:26 PM »
Quote from: JaffaCake on March 26, 2006, 07:31:30 PM
Go on Marky...only thing we hear from him is taking down big pots, that'll do nicely.
Paul you want me to hold your jacket?
That would make a change from me having to hold yours lol
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AndrewT
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:38:15 PM »
Quote from: Highstack on March 26, 2006, 07:31:11 PM
Quote from: AndrewT on March 26, 2006, 07:28:18 PM
When the King falls on the turn, Nik should have realised that card was his Rubicon. If he calls Jan's turn bet, then there is no getting away from the hand.
No one is disputing this unless he was scared of the unlikely flush draw bet. The criticism was why not raise the flop to avoid any potential heartache? (at that stage he didn't know the K was coming!)
Maybe he called, hoping for a non-spade on the turn? Thought that he only had a pair of sixes?
I think the whole of the hand is indicative of the fact that Nik wasn't thinking clearly - he had no plan for the player or the hand. Therefore dissecting his play is a bit pointless as you're not going to be able to tell him anything he didn't work out for himself the moment he saw Jan's hand.
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Nem
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:38:37 PM »
Quote from: actionjack on March 26, 2006, 07:37:10 PM
Quote from: snoopy1239 on March 26, 2006, 07:32:05 PM
Quote from: JaffaCake on March 26, 2006, 07:31:30 PM
Go on Marky...only thing we hear from him is taking down big pots, that'll do nicely.
Paul you want me to hold your jacket?
I'll hold it?
How much is it worth?
seems every one is entitled to their opinion on the play other than me or at least if i give my opinion i get rewarded by a snide comment if it doesnt agree with that of certain individuals
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Newmanseye
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:39:39 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 26, 2006, 07:28:57 PM
Quote from: newmanseye on March 26, 2006, 07:24:50 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 26, 2006, 07:19:06 PM
Quote from: Dubai on March 26, 2006, 07:00:52 PM
I think its a standard trap call him down once the turn is the King. No need to raise at any point against a lunatic. Just sit back and let him donk them all off.
I agree
Quote from: Highstack on March 26, 2006, 07:02:05 PM
The fold is not the problem I would have thought as he is clueless as to where he was in the hand. The problem was that he never asked the question to find out. A decent position raise on the flop would have in order and he could have taken it down there.
How can he 'find out' when any raise commits him to the pot, as Dubai says here:
Quote from: Dubai on March 26, 2006, 07:05:29 PM
Cant see any reason to raise against a lunatic. Particularly given the turn card.
No point to raise against someone who will fire 3 bullets with T hi.....
Well in that case why bother calling with the 6 on the flop or the king on the turn, if he was not going to shove his money in against a maniac with 2 pair whats he going to shove it in with. If he was worried about the flush, a raise may give you info from some facial tell, or a hand stalling ove the chips, its not all betting patterns.
Had it been me against this nutter, I would have chucked them in.
Of course i call on the end. My question is how can he raise on the turn without going all in, what use is a tell if you are all in?!!??!?!?!
Flushy, I'm of the opinion here that hes committed regardless of what he does, I would probably bet out 50K of my remaining 100K trying to induce the push from the opponent, all the while watching for any tells that I may have picked up through the tourney.
Its a shame the bloke made a mistake and it looks like he tilted afterwards. I hope he learns from it and does not beat himself up about it.
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Nem
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:40:21 PM »
I just spoke to Nik and he thought the guy had the flush. He's said he's made one mistake and it has cost him, thats Poker.
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:41:03 PM »
Quote from: Nemesis on March 26, 2006, 07:38:37 PM
Quote from: actionjack on March 26, 2006, 07:37:10 PM
Quote from: snoopy1239 on March 26, 2006, 07:32:05 PM
Quote from: JaffaCake on March 26, 2006, 07:31:30 PM
Go on Marky...only thing we hear from him is taking down big pots, that'll do nicely.
Paul you want me to hold your jacket?
I'll hold it?
How much is it worth?
seems every one is entitled to their opinion on the play other than me or at least if i give my opinion i get rewarded by a snide comment if it doesnt agree with that of certain individuals
ahhh here they come.
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Micky147
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:42:01 PM »
Jaffa.............
don't you mean his jumper?
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crawfski1
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:43:14 PM »
was just gona say if his jackets anything like his jumper, i wouldny be holdin it!
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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Reply #268 on:
March 26, 2006, 07:45:36 PM »
Quote from: newmanseye on March 26, 2006, 07:39:39 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 26, 2006, 07:28:57 PM
Quote from: newmanseye on March 26, 2006, 07:24:50 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 26, 2006, 07:19:06 PM
Quote from: Dubai on March 26, 2006, 07:00:52 PM
I think its a standard trap call him down once the turn is the King. No need to raise at any point against a lunatic. Just sit back and let him donk them all off.
I agree
Quote from: Highstack on March 26, 2006, 07:02:05 PM
The fold is not the problem I would have thought as he is clueless as to where he was in the hand. The problem was that he never asked the question to find out. A decent position raise on the flop would have in order and he could have taken it down there.
How can he 'find out' when any raise commits him to the pot, as Dubai says here:
Quote from: Dubai on March 26, 2006, 07:05:29 PM
Cant see any reason to raise against a lunatic. Particularly given the turn card.
No point to raise against someone who will fire 3 bullets with T hi.....
Well in that case why bother calling with the 6 on the flop or the king on the turn, if he was not going to shove his money in against a maniac with 2 pair whats he going to shove it in with. If he was worried about the flush, a raise may give you info from some facial tell, or a hand stalling ove the chips, its not all betting patterns.
Had it been me against this nutter, I would have chucked them in.
Of course i call on the end. My question is how can he raise on the turn without going all in, what use is a tell if you are all in?!!??!?!?!
Flushy, I'm of the opinion here that hes committed regardless of what he does, I would probably bet out 50K of my remaining 100K trying to induce the push from the opponent, all the while watching for any tells that I may have picked up through the tourney.
Its a shame the bloke made a mistake and it looks like he tilted afterwards. I hope he learns from it and does not beat himself up about it.
i think you hit the nail on the head ,nik made a mistake,we all make mistakes apart from paul jackson lol only joking m8 .he will learn but this will def hurt
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crip17
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Re: £1500 European Poker Classic at the Vic - LIVE UPDATE - FINAL DAY
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March 26, 2006, 07:46:06 PM »
Hi Craw welcome to blonde m8
Good luck to MARKY H
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