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Supreme Novices: Spirit Son EW @ 16s

Arkle: Captain Chris WIN @ 25s. This was my first antepost bet and its looking like a write off at this stage as will and should be aimed at The Jewson now, grrrrrr.

Arkle: Medermit WIN @ 12s

Jewson: Mr Gardner EW @ 14s

Only 4 weeks to go Wiiiiiiii ..Got tickets for the Tuesday

I been sweet on Medermit for a while but this new championship race for novices has meant targets have been unclear which is fustrating.  Missed the boat completely now - Think it will go off fav tbh.  Nice bet Horner

FWIW I'm on the following:

RSA: Wymott EW @ 16/1
Ryan Air: Kalahari King EW @ 16/1
Albert Bartlet: Champion Court EW @ 12/1
World Hurdle: Grand Crus Win @ 11/4 (nrnb)
QM: Sizing Europe EW @ 18/1

Happy with them all, bar Champion Court who was disapointing last time, and may not run.  Gran Crus not my normal type of AP bet but think its going to get smashed on the day so took nrnb price now.

Got my eye on plenty of others also

I've only had one bet so far.

Somersby each way in the Champion Chase at 10/1 and 8/1.

I think this is looking the hardest betting Festival I've encountered for many years.

Really want to oppose Binocular at the price, but cannot find anything.

Gold Cup looks really wide open, Kempes was impressive on Sunday and is tempting at the price, but a flat horse hasn't won this race since Alverton!

Big Bucks is seems fair at evens.

Time For Rupert might be the banker, but one of my friends is foaming at the mouth for Jessies Dream, he's backed it to win the world and it's form certainly can't be faulted. TFR jumps better than any novice chaser I've ever seen and his hurdles form is rock solid.

Just booked tickets for the Wednesday, cannot wait!

Will be place laying Finian's Rainbow in the Arkle, as can't have him jumping round Cheltenham at that speed.

Really looking forward to this, going to see Australian Pink Floyd on the Monday, Brothers birthday on the Tuesday and me Dad's taking week off for it so full week of drinkaments and gambling, wiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.

Off to Benidorm for all 4 days...  Couple of Shandy's FTW..

Always fancied Benidorm for the festival, can you still get a bet on at the winning post? Not going mad this year did my bollocks in last. Champion Hurdle race of the festival, binocular, hurricane fly, peddlers cross and my fancy Menorah, what a line up. Can't see big bucks getting beat, nichols stable will be firing come March.

we got appartment booked in town centre all week will be there from wednsday 7pm

I checked earlier for train prices to go on the Friday, 2 adults from Newcastle is £350, GTFO.

what prices?

fwiw

we booked an appartment from the monday of festival week until the saturday for £1100 (between 5 of us)
smack bang in town centre, getting a chauffeur driven merc down for £230 from sheffield

get tickets from touts on day

Place to crash?

yeh nw

Without wanting to be a Cheltenham damp blanket, can someone explain why everyone suddenly wants to up their stakes and bet big when...

The horses are suddenly going twice as quick early as they've gone all season, in bigger fields than they've raced on all season and on quicker ground than they've raced on all season?

Never goddit.

The best each way week of the year.

Offered enhanced ew terms on races which if you tried to get £50 ew on normally you would get laughed at. (Last years Champion Chase and World Hurdle were amazing)

For Cheltenham week you can unlimited on.

Also, the bookies actually bet to decent percentages in every race.

Cheltenham Naps Competition on here?

Two selections a day? Nap of the day you get an enhanced price for the purposes of the competition?

If I get enough interested, and a few of you undertake to put the odd bet on with Skybet, I'll see if I can nab a prize off them


Interest?

Train tickets only from Newcastle to Cheltenham are £350 for 2 adults. Obv due to the festival but pretty ridic prices just for the train.

In for any Cheltenham comps.

Benidorm sounds like hell, but Cheltenham is the nuts.

Prediction league ftw, pick winner for each race, 10point for winning, 5points for top 3, all scores count and obv most points scoops teh loot.

Sounds ideal, we used to be there for full week religously, best week of year bar none... Those times gone unfortunately but looking forward to getting back this year if only for day.

Are you there on Wednesday Trigg?

Meet up for a beer or two if you are.

be there wednesday evening and out on the town about 8ish

everyone keeps telling me that the best racing is tuesday/wednesday and i agree, however the lads cant get these days off so we always (5th time now) go thursday and friday.

I'll run a comp nearer the time but it will be better than that, it will be price dependant, something like a choice of £10 win or £5ew on your chosen selection. Probs like a tenner to enter to allow everyone to play.

No point, Brent will piss it with his 5 or 6 25-1+ shots that he manages to find.

Well thanks Boldie, but in reality i think although i have done quite well, i've just run extremely good with the ones i've posted on the forum and actually backed like 3 outsiders in the race.

Kauto Star this year? Or is age too much of a barrier? Got to admit that as much as i'd love Kauto or Denman to win it my head is telling me that one of Long Run, Diamond Harry, Pride of Dulcote etc. will have too much pace.

What price would you give me in a prediction league? I've never ever really studied horse racing and probably won 6/7 bets out of like 80-100 I've put on

A price only very slightly over the amount of runners as i'd say 80% of the people on here would just be doing it for a laugh going with their favourite horses/jockeys/horse names/jockeys colours.

Also because it will probs be a £10 tipsters comp with a lot of entries not a deadly serious £100 comp or summat.

If Kauto is 12-1 and fit I reckon he's a decent EW shot. Can't have him at the current 8-1. Reckon it's a pretty open GC so wouldn't be surprised if some sort of shock came up.

Diamond Harry needs it at least Good to Soft...he should get that but the softer it gets the more I fancy him.  Don't know if Pride Of Dulcote is ready yet TBH but could be very well hack up. Long Run is obviously a superb horse and Commander (strange for the defending Champion) is almost the forgotten horse in the race even though he's favourite...7-2 is starting to look a bit tasty TBH as, if he is fully wound up, he could make this lot look very silly indeed.

Last year you could give 3 horses a chance..this year I reckon there are at least 5 who could win it and it wouldn't surprise you...very tough indeed and I'm almost happy to be working on the Friday so I don't have to ponder it all day.

I wasn't a Long Run fan, but am converted and is the most likely winner for me at this stage, I dont buy the "doesn't act round cheltenham" theory ... I cant have the old guard at all

Count me in for naps comp.

The bolded bit is complete nonsense.

If you believe his connections that he's the horse he was 8/1 is a fantastic price and should be a maximum bet.

If you believe your eyes that Kempton was a signpost that he's finished in top company then 12/1 is a terrible price.

The difference between 8/1 and 12/1 is tiny in % terms.

What do you believe ? :)

I'm unsure lol.

I tend to believe my eyes, I wouldn't play at either price, but the uncertainty is what makes it such a hard betting race.

I'm looking to get binocular beat.Think it may have been a one off last year.Quite sweet on Hurricane Fly ,though lack of course form is a worry.Peddler cross goes tomorrow at Kelso ,its been chucking it down here for 3 days so if it turns into a hard race it might affect his chances..Struggling to get my head round most of the races at the moment tbh.

Name seems familiar.


Can't wait for the Festival.

I've got Megastar in the Supreme Novices. Running today at Sandown.

One of my people is on that EW @ 33s. Has a decent profile, just think it will be outpaced in the Supreme when push comes to shove. He doesn't and is as shrewd as the day is long. Lets seeeee how it gets on today.

Sigh not seen the race or conditions but was hoping for a win today to boost my confidence

Yeah, your probably gg now.
 :(

Having been pulled up when 5-1 for the RSA Chase at last season's festival, Williams fears Diamond Harry could be at his best later in the year.

"I'm not as happy with him as I was going into the Hennessy and he is possibly an autumn horse," Williams said.

"When you look back at his form he has always been at his best in November and December and then once we get into the new year, for whatever reason, he seems to be not quite as good."

The trainer, whose charge is owned by Paul Duffy, also told Racing UK: "Diamond Harry is just not showing the same sparkle as he does in the autumn."

 :o :dontask:

copy and pasted from the 2008 thread, cant wait for this year



i went in 2005 and 2007 to cheltenham and the buzz is amazing. Gutted i can't muster a few lads fro the trip this year but they arent big racing fans.

In march 2005 i was still working at a local factory on nights to build a roll up and i was invited to make a 5-up for the trip to cheltenham for the thursday and friday.
The lads going were me 20 yrs  Steve 32 years   woody 42yrs   graham  55yrs   and jonny 65yrs. I can remember fllecing my bank account anc mustering £600 odd quid for the trip. On the day of the thursday I stuck my best shirt on, new jeans and a fancy longish bookie-esque coat and headed for the pick up. The journey was a good mix of bantor decent music and the words of wisdom from my co-workers on who would win each and every race,who would last the longest on the ale, and the journey seemed to take about a third of the near 3 hour drive.

We arrived in worcester (the closest we could get a hotel, obv i was on hotel duties) at about 10:45am, dropped our bags off and got str8 into the car for the drive str8 to the course. We were in the best mate enclosure and as soon inside i litterally jogged to the guiness tent where i presumed you could get beer. I had obv nominated myself for the 1st round but that didint matter a jot to me, i was absolutely buzzing. A new outfit a few quid in pocket a thirsty gut and a feastful of racing in store was enough to make even the most dry mouth water with excitement.

 Once in the guiness tent, i soon realised that there was a live band on playing some golden oldies and the atmosphere was electric. I had never seen so many people, mainly elderly irishmen, drunk at midday in my life. They were all very jovial and very much in twine with the spirit of cheltenham races, one of a party atmosphere. On the two occasions i have visited the festival (4 days in total) ive not seen an ounce of bother as the universal behaviour of race fans seems probably the best of all sports ive ever been a part of or witnessed.

The beers started flowing prior to the 1st race as people were having a jig to cheesy numbers, mainly "is this the way to amirillo" where i felt the urge to ring my mate and sing down the phone to try and convey the atmosphere and maybe rub it in a little. It felt so euphoric, Red hot weather for that time of the year helped the beers flow down and i felt content to stay in the tent to watch the first few races on the big screen waiting for the lads to return to get their round and complain of bad beats, in this case trouble in running, bad rides, unfluent jumping. This of course was music to the ears of those of us who had just bagged a winner.

Its strange feeling backing a winner in racing it makes the punter feel like he is somehow 'in the know' and on a higher level than the 'mugs' who picked a horse that chased it home. Punters love being asked thier opinion prior to the race and almost go looking for the guy post race to gloat and to see if he took your words of wisdom into account. Of course it goes without saying that you won't endevour to look for the guy if your horse underperforms as the last thing on your mind, after screwing your ticket up and heading back to the drawing board, is the clueless person who sought your advice.

The Topic for discussion at the factory for weeks was between Steve and woody about the stayers hurdle, steve waxing lyrical on a nightly basis abou the chances of inglis drever, while woody telling all who would hear how badly barracuda will stuff it.  I had only been at the factory about 5 months prior to cheltenham and the lads made me feel very welcome after i admitted a passion for cards, racing and anything gambling. These were the the guys in charge of the night shift and made my life just about as easy as possible through the 7/8 months i was there, which lead to be getting an invite for cheltenham.  Getting the time off wasnt a problem.

So it was almost racetime in the stayers hurdle, my day had been a good one so far backing a 20/1 winner who i forget the name of £10 e/w that jotted up and by racetime of the stayers hurdle i was certainly merry. I was undecided about which of the big two in the race to back, eventually it came down to one thing. Who would gloat more out of steve and woody. Who would rub it in our faces if we didnt back it. Who would get their wad of money and waft it in my face. I decided that although woody would have a cocky and smug grin on his face for the next 11 months, the verbal punishment i would get from steve would be far more severe, therfore my mind had been made up. Inglis drever it was.

I decided to watch the race, absent of my 4 mates, in the guiness tent, i had £75 e/w at 11/2 on the horse and, if i remember correctly from 3 furlongs out there was only barracuda and inglis in the race. I tried to keep my composure as the whole racecourse was screaming for thier charge, however this composure didnt last long as entering the last furlong i was probably the loudest in there, Inglis was coming to win the race. Barracuda seemed like he had met his match this time as inglis began to drive clear in the last 200 yards for victory. I began to cheer uncontrollably, not only was i in my idea of heaven, with mates, warm day, few beers, but i had just had a big winner which returned me in the region of £700. I turned round eagerly awaiting the return of my mate steve who had a fair bit more on it including side bets with woody. After a few minutes he returned with the biggest beam i have ever seen appear on a face.

The banter and beer flowed for the following few races as the three of us that were in profit decided to take it steady the last 3 races and just keep drinking and cheering. The other two lads jonny and woody decided to go to the paddock in order to have a closer inspection of the competitiors in order to get out of the hole they had dug in the four races prior.

After we left the racecourse it was str8 in woody;s car. Not only had he not had a winner all day but he had been nominated as the driver so he hadnt had a drink either: double beat:   
We headed str8 back to the hotel, shower changed and taxi into cheltenham town centre where we were greeted my traditional irish music in all the pubs. Classincs such as wild rover and i'll take you home kathleen were commonplace. We somehow got ushered into the top floor of a certain bar which had been renovated into a strip club and thought it best to stay a while as not to upset anyone. By this time Steve and I were a bit worse for where, with the added handicap of losing our voices somewhere inbetween cheering inglis home and singing the chorus to wild rover in a drink induced frenzy in o'neills.

As we headed back to the hotel we all looked back with joy on what had been a great day, but even then steve and woody were contemplating the 1st race of gold cup day. We aririved back at the hotel at about 4:00am and got str8 to bed eagerly anticipating the next days racing. Good times were had by all..

Yeah, not what you want to hear before such a big race.

Added the bottom two this week.

In terms of the Irish raiders I really like the look of Hurricane Fly in the Champion and So Young in the Neptune but am loathe to take single figure prices at the antepost stage of the markets. I hope I can still get 5/1 on the fly nearer the time. I think people forget that the horse beat Go Native by 10 lengths which was subsequently 11/4 fav for last years Champion. I think the horse has shown clear signs of returning to that form in its last couple of runs and could have beaten Solwhit by whatever distance it wanted. So Young has a similar profile to that which Mikael D'Haguenet had when winning the same race in 09.

Incred its like 2 and a half weeks!

Have never been chelts, that made me tempted to go this yr!

Great write up.

I'm in the Hurricane Fly camp too but like you have not yet invested.

If you see any 5/1 NRNB give us a shout please.

me trying to be clever yesterday, backed starluck for the arkle before its run, where it won well and jumped slightly left handed, nw for the arke then, it got backd from 18 to 9 then all of a sudden news filtered around that the trainer had aintree in mind... grfedws
if its only a 9/1 shot for the arkle surely it has to got there?

http://www.stanjames.com/betting/index.asp?sl=sltc&gi=0&sltc=328294.2&sle=1539878.2&slm=7469791.2

13 days!

Cheers mate, I see that WH are going 11/2 but it's not NRNB

This is a good song:

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zanss5SjFOQ

This offering from this cross between Trigg and Red Dog isn't:

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVPhnExZgR0

The second one is the best thing ever.

arkle sure is day 3

im buzzing by the way, had a few antepost bets already, mainly to save me doing my cobblers in while im down there. my portfolio looks  like this


£50 5/1 e/w garde champetre for the cross country (SJ)
£15 e/w tidal bay gold cup bonrnb 33/1 (b365)
£80 grands crus 9/4 bonrnb (b365)
£80 cue card (SJ)5/2 supreme novices
£20 medermit arkle 5.5
£25 menorah 6.5 champion hurdle
£17 sommersby 8.6 champion chase
£17 jessies dream 10.5 RSA
£20 starluck Arkle 16

Garde Chappetre looked like he'd had enough of racing last time he was at Cheltenham.

Couldn't back Tidal Bay with stolen money.

Cue Card looks more solid than Dunguib was in the same race last year, Dunguib was evens, CC is 5/2, I think he's fair value. If Henderson/Mullins or Nicholls trained him, he'd be 6/4.

Arkle looks wide open, prefer your Starluck bet to Medermit, purely because of the price.

The more I look at the Champion Hurdle, the more I like Menorah. Great ew bet I reckon.

I'm on Somersby large ew for the Champion Chase, so I hope you cop there!

GL Triggah!

Interested in your confidence behind Somersby Keith..  Playing for a place imo

Everyone I hear talking about this horse is convinced it gone for the wrong race

So Young - has an entry in the Albert Bartlett and the Neptune - although the races are 2 days apart, I doubt it will run in both?  Any ideas on which race it is heading for pls?

Neptune almost certainly

Ty

starluck not going for the Arkle

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/cheltenham-arkle-starluck-team-to-skip-cheltenham-festival/825674/top/

cant wait, travel down Monday, home Thursday, we rent a house for £600.00 for the 4 days, 6 mile out of Chelt, same house every year, Lumping on Menorah and Cue Card, but shyed away from Peddlars Cross, tip for the Mares race....Beshapar and Sparky May from a good source.

Diamond Harry out of Gold Cup

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/cheltenham-festival-lame-diamond-harry-ruled-out-of-gold-cup/825850/top/

PR

Sky Bet offer nr-nb Cheltenham Festival

Sky Bet is extending its non-runner, no bet offer to cover all 27 races at the Cheltenham Festival from 9.30am on Monday, 7th March.

The safety net for ante-post punters was originally introduced last month on the four Championship races at the Festival by the firm who were one of the first to make the concession available to its customers.

Its popularity has led to Sky Bet widening the offer to encompass all its Festival markets on races at the Festival including the handicaps and novice events in which many horses hold multiple entries.

Matt Doyle of Sky Bet said: ‘Diamond Harry became the latest high profile Festival absentee last Friday and punters who backed the Gold Cup hope with us after we went nr-nb are entitled to a full refund.’

Doyle added: ‘Plenty of horses also hold multiple Festival entries and its a minefield for punters who can now place their bets with confidence knowing its money back if their selection doesn’t run in the race they fancy them for.’

Among the leading contenders keeping their Festival options open is Nicky Henderson’s Aegean Dawn who is entered in both the Coral Cup (Weds) and Vincent O’Brien County Hurdle (Fri).

A victory in this Saturday’s Imperial Cup would tempt connections to chase the £75,000 bonus from the sponsors if Aegean Dawn goes on to double up in the County Hurdle at the Festival just six days later

Fancy Recession Proof in the Supreme Nov, think there are grounds to take on the the market leaders in this race, and he travelled so strongly in the totesport and  looked winner a long way out (wiii), that wil be a major plus in this race obv... Backed to win with the Cue Card concession with PP @ 10/1.

Also backed Day of a Lifetime @ 20/1 EW who I think could be a sneaky one for Mullins

8 days to go!!!!!!!!!!!

the PP cue card offer makes me a bit nervous, this is my nb of the festival

Anyone ever been to one of those Cheltenham preview nights? I know a few guys that do the panel stuff but never been to one.

See Paul Nicholls put Big Buck's up as his best bet of the meeting? Awesome. Thanks fatty, would never have found that one.

lol..Last week Nicholls put up Masterminded as his best bet of the festival.

TBH, I'm very confused about the Grand crus hype...I just don't see it. But, on the plus side, Big Buck's is now out to an amazing 5-4 (with willy hill)

Grands Crus amazing progres this season. Reminds me of Master Oats the year he won the Gold Cup. He's not good enough to beat Big Buck's though imo.

cue card will win don't worry

Never been, but paid a tenner to get the reports from wetherbys... Most of it is pretty worthless, like your example above but you get the odd nugget. Can be good for getting early mention of running plans with all the multi entries also

dislike antepost betting way in advance but really getting the bug for chelt now

current bets cue card, zarkanda and the giant bolster

best racing of the year, cant wait

Backed Tanks for that in the grand annual.

grands crus v big bucks reminds me of inglis v barracouda and we all know what happened there.

Barracouda was a 10yr old that day and clearly past his best.

And drever was 5-1..a bit tastier than the 5-2 that on offer for Crus.

Not saying that Grand Crus can't win the race, I just don't see the appeal in him at all considering how ridic well Big Buck's is still going. Don't think there's any chance of Bucksie starting at odds against on the day.

FiveforThree looks pretty mad value EW in the without Big Bucks market at 8/1 with Hills (3 1/4). They will actually lay a bet for once at Cheltenham too.

Its as short as 10/1, has won at the festival before. Has been injured but won easily on his comeback and has been put away for this.

Quevega and Oscar Whisky won't run.

Struggling to see him out of the top 4 and could come 2nd if Grand Crus struggles with the ground and Mourad the track.

Big Bucks 11/8 @ Hills.

World Hurdle is much more competive race this year, 3 or 4 that have genuine chances of winning...  Prob race of the week along with the CH imo

if i was following big bucks i would be concerned that its not had a run this year, last year it had a run end of jan if memeory serves me, before it won the WH

No mate, last year it ran on Dec 29th before Chelters..same as this year. He's gone down the exact same route as last year (the year before he had a race on Jan though when it beat Punchestowns in the Cleeve

Look out for Montbazon in the bumper, one of Alan Kings, saw it win at Donny on saturday. Won pulling a train. 25's available

Hen Knight saying somersby may still go for the ryan air if stays dry... on the sporting life site

£50 treble on.  Masterminded, Big Bucks, and cue card.  Saves me getting too involved on each day (hopefully)

zomg its so close, im absolutely buzzzzzzing, cue card is gonna take the world of beating

This happens every year with the supreme novices. everybody is looking forward to the festival and the Supreme ussually has a "banker" in it...which, inevitably, gets sunk. Yes he has the best form in the field but the record of favourites in the Supreme is very poor indeed. Rather be on Spirit Son @ 6-1 than on Cue Card at 2-1 TBH. Trying to find something else to take Cue Card on with but have been on a course for the past day or so and can't remember what Willie Mullins said about So young. Does anyone know where he is going?

I asked earlier itt, he has entries in Neptune and Albert Bartlett and likely to go for Neptune.

thanks mate, I have tonnes of back issues of the RP to go through this weekend...yay!

On Hurricane Fly @ 5/1 ew, finally given up on waiting for 11/2.

The Irish are almost certain to plunge on this imo.

I've backed Peddlers Cross in the Champion, SJ went 7/1 briefly a couple of days ago so snapped up some of that, was going to back it EW but I  only really fear Binoculor if back to last years form so backed that aswell @ 100/30 instead

5 days to go... tick tock!!!!

Getting pretty excited too. Fly down to Bristol on Weds, Cheltenham on Paddy's Day, then Bristol beer festival for Fri & Sat. Perfect!

sounds like cue card should be a big lay for you instead of looking for something to beat it.

if i was to choose a day in the pub to get drunk watch the racing and gambolllllll, which day would be my best bet?

Friday with me, in the Southbank at Trent Bridge, you only have to win enough to cover your taxi's!

sighhhhhhhhhhhhh

so tempting but i need to be in newcastle and sharp the next day!  -let me see what i can do

Yeah it will be. Not a massive one but it's definitely a lay in my book.

I wouldn't want to be laying it, def the one they got to beat.... but its not a one horse race by any means

Somersby goes for the Champion Chase.

Apparently his owner has got cancer and is booked in for chemo on the Thursday (Ryanair day) and wouldn't be able to see her horse run if it went for the longer option.

Really looking forward to this year's festival and particularly the Champion Hurdle, what a field! I've been backing Menorah and Peddlars Cross for the Champion Hurdle since October/November but you could make a case for quite a few others in the race including the defending champion. Most likely winner for me though is Menorah.

I also see Cue Card as a very good bet in the Supreme Novices and have been backing him since the turn of the year. His second to Menorah at Cheltenham is pretty good form in my book.

In the Gold Cup I have backed Denman e/w at 8/1, I think this is a cracking E/W bet. I actually think Denman could be in with a real shout of winning the Gold Cup this year and I see Imperial Commander as the biggest threat, also write off Kauto at your peril. Despite a fantastic performance by Long Walk at Kempton in the King George I'm not a believer that he will deliver here.

I've also a good few win and ew lucky 15s & 31s which are made up with various combinations of the horses already mentioned and Finian's Rainbow Merdermit and Time for Rupert. My last bet on this years festival was placed a fortnight ago. I am only planning a few singles during the festival with a maximum total outlay of £200.

This sums it up... 

Off to Benidorm on the 7am Flight from Edinburgh on Tuesday for 4 Nights.. 

I love Cheltenham....... 

cant see why you wouldnt just go to cheltenham for the festival for the same price, the supreme novices will start and some 20yr old bird with sovs on, on her hen do will switch it to smash hits, and you wont want to mess with her.

Genuis.......... Next Year....

anyone know which race wolf moon will go for? i love its profile

Are you joking? Not because I don't like the horse, just because I think 5 entries is the most I've ever seen.

Boldie what's your thoughts on recession proof for supreme novices? Also surely the pp offer is a great one if your going against cue card?

Binocular out of CH according to twitter.

Dammit! Knew I should've backed Menorah by now.  ;grr;

Sigh, very much this. Menorah into 10-3 and Binocular out of the betting with all bookies

Yeah same here, least you can back Menorah and not have Binocular to fear, which i did.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/cheltenham-festival-cheltenham-champion-hurdle-favourite-binocular-out-of-champion/828891/top/

the thing that put me off Menorah the most is the stats TBH. No Supreme Novices winner has ever won the CH the following year.

but the race looks more straightforward now that Binocular is out...complexion has changed though so re-think required.

had a bit on menorah at 5/1 but was looking to plough in e/w at 9/2 sigh at that now, didnt even rate binocular as the main danger

Bula?

yessssssss get out Binocular!

Good news for my 5/1 The Fly. Got 4 places in the special with Stan James a few weeks ago, ideally only about 9 horses end up racing and I've got 4 places for the ew.

Also Ruby Ruby Ruby Ruby

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7377051586061800516#

Recession proof has quite a bit of improvement to find, IMO. but he's been doing most of his racing on proper soft ground and could well improve for slightly better ground. the more I look at it the less I like Cue Card @9-4. He finished 4 1/2 lenghts behind Menorah and never really looked like he was going to beat him. I know Menorah is a fancy for the CH but you would have hoped Cue Card would have done better there.

Apologies, didn't go back 40 years.

lol, first time taking on older horses, was a cracking effort imo.

My opinion is that he ran a decent race but Menorah passed him with consummate ease. I can fathom Spirit Son doing the same in the Supreme

Cue Card should have never been running in that race anyway

You don't see the top trainers running their novices in grade 2 races. Clown operation

Gutted I didn't get on HF earlier now. Also didn't see Binocular as the threat.
My brother bets like twice a year and asked about this race and had his bets for Tuesday on Friday when at work as he got some special offer sent to him. Sigh at him getting better odds than me now.
Don't get paid till Tuesday and looking for a new job so waiting to the day to do my bets nuts

I noticed in the small print (PP) that even with NRNB, R4 may still apply?

You could always have said that you could not remember one rather that it's never been done.

None of us is omniscient.

yeh i respect your knowledge of horses is far greater than mine, but itt we are both guilty of stating wrong info in a very objective manner.

Yeah, could have done. Thought it was correct as I went back a fair way (had to look up info throughout the 90s as my memory doesn't even go back that far TBH)

Will put the caveat in with the following;

Think none of the previous year's bumper winners have ever gone on to win the Supreme the following year.

Montelado.

DOH!

Talk about opening your mouth to change feet....

what a great thread and we haven't even seen a race yet...

ever been a bomb scare at cheltenham?

you thinking of ringing one in?

Price would you get?

no bookmaker would lay it, too easily corrupted by the punter, And very unethical and would create bad PR, u can have 8/1 with me for a score tho?

i was looking at 12's to cover diesel.

What price actual bomb attack?

phonecall prices are getting ridiculous thesedays

Arkle: Captain Chris WIN @ 25s. This was my first antepost bet and its looking like a write off at this stage as will and should be aimed at The Jewson now, grrrrrr.

GTFI

Run like the winddddddddddddd in The Arkle

backed wolf moon for the handicap chase on tuesday at 25/1 last night, into 12/1 in a place when i woke up, done all my selcetions for tommorow already, im getting very giddy


1.30pm  cue card win 9/4
2.05pm medermit win 5/1
2.40pm Wolf moon  25/1 e/w
3.20pm menorah 11/2
4.00pm garde champetre ew 5/1
4.40pm sparky bay e/w 4/1
5.15pm premier sagas e/w 16/1   

plz god let me collect something GL ALL

Cant wait for tomorrow.......... 8:41 train, gets in at 10 bells, Couple of bottles of fizz ready for the journey!!

FWIW, my bets so far tomorrow..

Recession Proof win @ 10/1
Marsh Warbler ew @ 25/1

Great Endevour win @ 8/1
Reve de sivola win @ 14/1

Peddlers Cross win @ 7/!


Warming to Ghizao now alsoi in the Arkle


GL all

Why isn't Ruby riding Ghizao?

because timmy murphy gets a great tune out of it

All I want to do is bink like its 2007 all over again.  One Time. 

Wolf Moon is a fantastic shout Trigg looking at it in depth, wish I'd got the 18/1 5 places earlier.

La Vecchia Scuola @ 20/1 looks great each way value in the Mares race.

Rumour has it that Cue Card is going to be 3/1 for a little while in Coral, Ladbrokes and Hills in the morning.

Jake is going to be late for school because I need the car to get to Darlo before 9.15...

A contact tells me Cue Card will be 3/1 with Hills for defo. Along with Medermit 4/1 and Definity 9/1.

Arbors paradise if they can find ways to get on.

Medermit at 4/1 would be massive.

Betfair are commision free on the Arkle to say sorry for what happened on Saturday.

It could be carnage!

For once....FML at being in Miami.....can't we talk about the NCAA basketball tournament or something?????  First festival I have missed in ten years.

Yeah its gona be!

La Vecchia does look a fair shout and the 12/1 (3 1/4) with Stan James without Quevega appeals as I think Quevega will be a tough nut to crack but don't like backing shorties at Cheltenham.

ladbrokes £25 minimum on cue card at the 3/1, obv drifting on the machine now as people will have laid off already and have alarms set for 8am

My nap of the week, is backing Big Zeb now to trade it on Wednesday.

3/1 is far too big imo, I can see it going off 9/4 (maybe even shorter) if the ground firms up, as is forecast.

The world will want to be against Master Minded at 3/1 on good ground.

lol keith youve had more naps than albert steptoe this week

If only it was a pony minimum!

Meh

Gl all

zomg four hours

just call me pricewise mate

Mark Boylan's an abs ledge

lol yeah hes com/incred

Had a big bet on cue card so could be geeg after the first for me lol.

Also really fancy divers in the last, ferdy murphy is a bit of a Cheltenham festival specialist, would of preferred a bit of a bigger price tho

Better to take 10/1 (with cue card winning refund bet offer), or 11/1 (faller refund bet offer) on a horse?

My Thoughts atm are:

1.30 Got Spirit Son EW @ 16s a while ago and still sweet on that. Also backed Hidden Universe @ 16s with the Paddy Power concession, should love the ground, hasn't enjoyed it at home.

2.05 Got Medermit @ 9/1 and Captain Chris @ 20s as referenced in this thread on page 1.

2.40 Sunnyhillboy @ 10s AP, today I've backed Razor Royale EW 5 places @ 28s and Carrickmines WP @ 50.0 & 9.0

3.20 Got my big AP EW on Hurricane Fly @ 5/1 (4 places). Rate Oscar Whisky the main danger, may cover.

4.00 Sizing Austrailia decent chance at the weights, backed it today @ 8/1.

4.40 Had my bets w/o Quevega. La Vecchia Scuola EW @ 12s and Ocean Transit EW @ 33s

5.20 On Borrowed Wings EW @ 16s AP, Vino Griego EW @ 25s today and also a small bet that might see me in the asylum but I don't care, Quo Video @ 130.0 & 20.0

If none of these win I will cry.

My bets:

1.30 I've got up at an unearthly time and spent all morning running around Darlo taking as much 3/1 Cue Card as I can. Huge price. I've backed Zaipour small ew @ 12/1 too.

2.05 Backed Rock Noir ew @ 20/1 and 16/1. I love Captain Chris, but I would have prefered he ran in the Jewson, think they might go too quick for him here and the doubts about him left handed stopped me backing him.

2.40 Reve de Sivola ew 10/1 is a great bet imo.

3.20 I'm on Menorah huge ew @ 11/2.

4.00 No bet. This race shouldn't be in the festival.

4.40 A fantastic each way betting heat. I think Sparky May will be out of the frame and I've heard some negative rumours about the jolly. L'accordioniste @ 10/1 and La Vecchia Schuola @ 20/1 are my bets

5.15 Tiny ew interests on Rougham and Premier Sagas.

gl everyone.

I cant believe you are all thinking about racing with whats happening in Japan at the moment

Some guy on the betfair forum wants everyone at Cheltenham to have two minutes silence before the first race.

I'm sure that would help the Japanese affected.

wtf, that looks exactly like me, but I'm 99% sure it isn't me..

haha fkin A+

hahahahhahahahahahaha such a com response

abs roflll

can't quite compete with that...but..

If you're stuck in the office a bet of just 5p with the forum sponsors allows you to watch any race at Cheltenham on your PC - http://tiny.cc/y0xim

that's a really good deal.

I'm on the Hurricane big stylee(for me)@ 5/1 ew, and will probably get on Medermit if I can get 7/2.

did a small lucky 15 £1.5 get to watch all the races weeeeeee thanks


i backed The http://www.keithhawkins.com/ (http://www.keithhawkins.com/) selections

how long till their sponsorship runs out? i understand the spamming is "neccesary" but if you could at get them to admit they are mickey mouse layers then il be happy.

I'd take the 3's now Ralph, very strong on Betfair, I think it will start 5/2 or even 9/4.

Agree because the next 4 in are weak in the market, it can only go one way and thsts shorter imo

Just thought it was useful for people thats all

Yes spamming is a fact of life, if not Skybet it will have to be someone else, and I think a lot of the fixed odds layers these days don't put out for the successful punters, do they?

Id bet any money the people i know who have been knocked back arent winning punters! Just tilts me beyond belief that they advertise prices on events they wont lay. Hats off to ladbrokes etc who certainly lay a bet

1662 posts on here Dave, and you seem to enjoy posting. A little bit of support for the sponsors to help you do another 1662 posts without me going cap in hand to our mutual boss again and again would be most appreciated

id rather flushy pulls up!

I was really surprised and impressed at how much I got on Cue Card at 3/1 with Ladbrokes this morning when it was little over 5/2 on betfair.

Hills didn't want to lay hardly a penny, but that was hardly a shock. Don't know why they bothered going 3s tbh.

They are different class, and even have massive limits online which u can see just by clickign more info. Plus they have fastest banking system of all online sites

I'd rather we do well to get him a return

Please support our sponsors.

Ok i will be fair, il open a brand new account this week and find something they are best price on that i fancy, il report back what happens- cant get fairer and more supportive than that

Absolutely. I don't mean to be a prick, but the sponsorship is important to me personally, and to blonde as a forum

If they won't lay you what you want I can't ask you to do any more.

Spread on number of accounts Dubai has got with skybet?

probably only 2 from years ago, i asked someone to try and get on draws in darts the other day in doubles and we got offered £11, hence the tilt

Wil be against Cue Card inrunning here, strong in market and I got a feeling could go very short if travelling well a few out, seen plenty trade real short in first few races at Cheltenham last couple years because they travelling well but always a long runin etc

My degen & random bets:

1.30        £25 on Cue Card @ 5/2 on hills
1.30        £3 on recession proof @ 10/1
1.30        £6 (3x£2) on Spirit Son @ 9/2

2.40        £7.07 on Reve de sivola @ 9/1 free bet on paddy power
2.40        £1 on Rainbow Hunter @ 20/1

3.20        £3 on Oscar Whisky @ 15/2

4.00        £2 on Poker de Sivola @ 11/1

4.40        £2 on L’Accordioniste @ 8/1
4.40        50p e/w on Ocean Transit @ 50/1

5.15        £12.50 e/w on Quantativeeasing @ 9/1 free hills bet for my cure card bet

Spirit Son and Hidden Universe in the 1st, lets gooooooooo! (money back if Cue Card wins)

Sigh, 2nd. Great ride by Ruby on the winner

Not matched at 1.6 and 1.8 but got matched at 2.2

And more importantly my alphabet system is now up 100points

Well, yes but I wanted to be nice

ok i need to caveat this by saying i know nothing about horses:

but surely asking a big beast like cue card to do its hardest working running up a steep hill, has to be a bad tactic? jockey seemed to be asking the most of it up the hill to get in contention.

i do love a day at the nags thou - so jealous of those in attendance

bink

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipla

Had a winner, my week is complete already

Finians Rainbow in the next

Ghizao next plz.

Gone in again on Rock Noir.

20/1 on Betfair is huge.

Medermit ftw, Rock Noir ftp(lace)

weee get in Captain

WP.

Bookies loving it thusfar

WP Brent

Alphabet system 2/2

Pricewise, huh?

GTFI Chris, 20/1

Chris is incred, future Gold Cup winnar.

Cheers Josedinho, come on Hurricane Fly!

I like this Alphabet system, how do i suscribe?

Oh wp Brent

Razor Royale for my EW treble to come up..:) just the 25/1 shot

Reve De Sivola

Yeah, nice ante-post double for Tom segal.

He's a freak of nature, that man.

My bets today....

£25ew on hurricane fly
£20 win on quevega

£1ew lucky 15

Wolf moon (sigh took Bensalem out) :(
Peddlers cross
L'ami
Quantitativeeasing

Oscar Whisky

Same here

Clare Balding's paddock view -  "Looking at Champion Hurdle runners. Menorah looks amazing. Peddlers Cross good too. hurricane fly looks awful"
So far she's picked Al Ferof and Cpt Chris in the paddock.
4-1 Menorah looks huge to me.

COME ON THE FLY

If Menorah doesn't win, it's going to be a steep hill to climb to get out of this mess!

Ruby ruby ruby rubyyyyyy

YESSSSSSSSSS
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I FKIN LOVE THAT BEAST, NO DANGER!

THE FLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOmfknHOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 ;woohoo; ;woohoo; ;woohoo;

What price was Ruby to be top jockey ? He's just too good.

The flyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Well done.

The Fly is just too fast!

I was a bit worried about rule4 but fair play to Hills who paid me out in full :)

Horner is God.

+ 1 mirrion

Is masterminded gonna do it BH?

Sparky May is some mare. To pull like stink early and almost come down at the first, and then still finish second! Drop in trip please.

Ha, Ocean Transit coming 2nd would've made it a wonderful day.

i nicked your tips for the work comp brent, won it by a mile. wish i'd backed em to...

Pretty much GG for me. I will be resisting temptation to be place any more bets on this year's festival but do have a fair few open bets, that said I'll need to run like BH for the rest of the meeting to turn a profit now.

WD Brent some excellent picks. ;hattip;

Thanks buddies, got 4/7 winners and plenty of EW bets placed, delighted.

But its a long week and still could end badly, need to put in some serious study for tomorrow.

Surely UConn are too big at 28/1, there is no oustanding team this year and they have come into form at the right time.

Tremendous stuff BH.

Anyone know a blackberry app with racing results?

They were bit flattered against Georgetown cos Chris Wright wasn't playing

Do Racing Post do a Blackberry app?

Off to Cheltenham at 7am tomorrow.

Backed Somersby ages ago, but the quick ground is aginst him, hoping he stays on for a place at best.

I love Time For Rupert and I think he could drift tomorrow, will back him at 5/2+

gl in the trenches.

enjoy the day keith. just got back from today, f loved every minute of it!

helped in no small part by having a big bet on...


:D


oh and keith word of advice make sure you wear really good shoes/socks and take a pack of plasters my feet are blistered sore...traffic was so bad getting into the racecourse, walking 4 miles to it seemed like the only way we would make the first race :(

11/4 with Paddy tonight.
 Done an e/w double with Poquelin on Thursday.

done my absolute cobblers, had a monkey on man u ht-ft at 6/5 which got me almost out. Just goes to show how little the form of the last race is worth, al ferof no chance with cue card, captain chris no chance with menorah oh rly?

Don't want to derail this thread and BH's sterling tipping but thought it was wrth mentioning that Alan Boston who is widely recognised as a pretty amazing college hoops judge thinks that Bucknell will beat Uconn outright as a 10 point dog.  Worth a look I think.  Will open a new thread if anyone ius interested.

London for work today [ ] WIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Backed Megastar for the Neptune but don't think i'll have anything else. Hope to be back for the final 2 races and nick peoples tips.
GL ALL

well done all winners yesterday... especially horner, 4/7 winners so sweet!... managed to just about get out of it with divers in last ...slight loss on day though

feeling rough as fcuk at the min, and got to to work sigh

I stuck a photo of Horneris on my pillow last night, just so I could pretend he was whispering tips for today's races in my ear as I slept.

cant find the bucknell game on oddschecker red?

Ncaab- Thursday 23.20 it's there

1/6 26/5

cheers dave

Thoughts on Big Zeb/Master minded plz ?

Got decent ante post bets on Sizing Europe EW @ 18/1 and Wymott EW @ 16/1 today and can see them both running big races, especially Sizing

Think Dantari might a be a decent bet in the Coral cup at big odds also, trainer been flying last couple of  weeks

GL all today

Am on Masterminded.

on

Just one proper bet for today, am already on Time For Rupert @ 5/2.

I'll probably have a few bus driver's dabbles along the way too....

GL

Ha, heavy weight of expectation on my shoulders today after yesterday and it looks a much trappier card than yesterday. Tuesday and Friday was always were I had the most fancies. On a few big priced shots today.

1.30 Backed Pearlysteps and Chamirey this morning, both EW with 4 places (VC and Skybet i believe) at 16/1 and 18/1.

2.05 I have So Young @ 7/1 from a few weeks ago but the price is well skinny enough now. Highland Valley could run a race at a ridic price.

2.40 Nothing for me, so open. Only 2 I can't see winning are 1833 and Mikael.

3.20 Pretty open again. Big Zeb jumps like a stag on this ground but hes plenty short enough at the current price after tis last effort and everyone knows Master Minded needs cut in the ground nowadays. Backed French Opera 2 weeks ago @ 33/1 and could sneak a place though I'm not too hopeful about it winning the race. Sizing Europe and Captain CeeBee have the course form in the book and like the ground but would have to improve dramatically on recent efforts.

4.00 Oh God so hard. Taken potshots on Battle Group and Tiger O'Toole, 5 places @ 40/1 and 25/1. For Non Stop would be my pick from the top of the market.

4.45 Backed Kayef EW @ 20/1 (5 places Bet365) but another minefield and a poor renewal. Those with 40/1 on Paintball like my Dad and Uncle have toasty lives and it should go close.

5.15 The Shrewdies are all on Raise The Beat @ 16/1 from a couple of weeks ago. Just a win bet, best not to get too involved in the bumper.

1.30 : Some Target
2.05 : First Lieutenant, Highland Valley
2.40 : Time for Rupert
3.20 : Help :)

errrrm

some target
first lieutenant
time for rupert
big zeb
for non stop
plan A

arabella boy in the first

pearlysteps
first lieutenant
the giant bolster
somersby
lightening strike
plan a
divine rhapsody

giant bolster will be a big winner for me gogogogo

Chamirey and Some Target in 1st, wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin.

What place did some target come? just outa bed

oioiiiiiiiiiiii first winner of the meeting good old davy fkin russell, mouse morris said it had a big squeak

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiii had a bus-driver's £15 @ 9 on BF, ding-ding!

Got £70 win on Time for rupert!! CMON!!!!!!

Those that like TimeForRupert, PP are going 4/1 for it to be leading on landing at the last and winning..

Wayward prince to nip time for rupert at the post. mccoy is due a win

Don't know what the fks gna win this, so just gone for Bostons Angel e/w

FOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

nh

scooop

oioiiiiiiii, ty.

sigh

150 time for rupert
£30 free bet aiteenthirtythree
£10e/w masterofthehall
£17 @ 10.5 jessicas dream

abs nightmate race

im going big the next race, 2 whole english pounds on captain cee bee

you should've just had a denny on every horse in the race buddy, you would have made a nice profit then.

Master Minded it is, WTF happened to Time for Rupert never got going.

backed winner of 2.55 at huntingdon at 20/1 told shallow on msn, he didnt get on, think he's gone to end it all

Need a 1) Masterminded 2) Big zeb 1-2 please!!

Woolcombe and French Opera e/w, get theeeere.

FOOOOOOOOOOOK!!

BOOOOOOOOOM

Sizing = Beast!!!!!!!!!!!

Absolute performance that one, led from a mile out and powered away.

Boldielocks has been uncharacteristically quiet..

He tipped up Carlito's Brigante and Boston's Angel so not the worst day ever..

wp TMar, great price and such an impressive display

ta.. yeah great performance!

bookies cleaning up.........

Raise That Beat up, Raise Raise Raise that beat uppppppppppppppppppp, get there plz

And a small bet on Double Double.

On double double also

Lets get me out of it for the day

sigh

Double double anywhere?

No still running.

The one I picked in the tipping competition won @ 14/1 [ ] I backed it :(

Was on a course today, will be on the same course tomorrow so very limited internet access and only time in the morning to read the RP and squeeze a losing bet on.

don't worry, will be harrasing everything again on Friday

were you on mate? (Tell me someone was as I didn't get a chance to stick a bet of myself on on either...bloody H&S course)

sigh, lost a little bit. Had a small bet on Sizing Europe and my biggest ew bet of the day was on Battle Group at 40s which placed but also had a hell of a lot of losers and ended up recording a small loss.

Knew it was going to be a trappy day when I saw the card.

Theres always tomorrow!

Unfortunately not, did my niags on So Young instead.  

Only just watched So Young's race...what a mistaka to maka at the last..

Yup!  I don't know if it would have won, but I would have had something to shout about in the finish.  Had it @ 9/2 too :(

PP refund your bets if 2nd to a Ruby Walsh ridden winner for first 4 races.
Worth going in on Grand Crus?

In effect PP massive laying Grand Crus then...though it could also be argued that they are laying Bucksie, but surely not??  I tend to be with them if they are thinking laying Grand Crus TBH. Think Bucksie is as big a cert as Quevega was and the value definitely isn't with Grand Crus but more with Restless Harry @ 50-1 and Celestial Halo @ 40-1 EW.

Obv Grand Crus has the form in the book to be second in this, and maybe get close to Big Bucks, but value he definitely is not and I wouldn't be surprised if another came between him and Bucksie.

Just my opinions obv

boom sizing

rly, doesn't say on the website yet.

That seems an incred offer @sp, he rides 3 favs and a 3rd fav.

yeah, it's on their website mate

Thought the Irish were supposed to be below par this year, 6 out of 7 winners and no Ruby or Willie Mullins among them, somebody taking the piss. Good day tomorrow only 6 races to do your money.

Two chances to get out of it on the meeting.

Midnight Chase in the Gold Cup and Dirar in the County Hurdle.

Tomorrow looks harder than the first tow days, and I've already done my bollocks on those.

Place lay of Grand Crus is my only strong feeling for tomorrow.

OOh don't know about that, forms solid. Think you'd be better lumping on BB. Can't believe neither Henderson or Geraghty not had a winner.

lol at this. If people in jail can get bets on im sure you could have got a bet on by sneaing to the toilet for 5 mins. Not in a million years buying "didnt get the chance"

the thing about value is,any one mans opinion of what is value is only valid if they have an edge over the compilers/betfair public, its no good me pricing up the races and seeing in my tissue big bucks at 4/7 and getting the world on at evs, because im not qualified to price it up as a judge.

lol was going to stick a small bet on during lunch..and then lunch was cut down to 15 minutes, considering I also have a job (and had to check emails during that 15 minutes), doing my job kind off takes precendence over my gambling fancies. I know it sounds silly to some but I'm old fashioned like that.

30 second phone call. No shame in admitting that you didnt fancy them enough to have money on.

Backed Dirar earlier in the week... Srong fancy, and stable obv flying, can seeing it going off v short.

Weakest day of the week today imo, although saying that the World hurdle looks lke an absolute cracker.. Cant wait for that

I'll be cheering Kalahari King on in the Ryan Air, on EW @ 16/1 antepost..

Bet of the day has to be Wishful Thinking in the opener though

GL all

I'm with you on Wishfull Thinking, my only decent bet today although I am susceptible to a bus driver's dabble.

For some reason I have decided to burn 50 quid on a 4 way accumulator which pays 25 grand if it wins:

 Wishfull thinking
Kalahri king
Big bucks
And another horse which I can't remember

Oh and thoughts on beautiful sound in the 4pm?

Good luck; I have the 1st 3 in my work thing-which cant be good btw :-)

Lush life in the 2.05 is other horse at 11s. Gg

Nothing ground breaking for me had a dabble on,

1.30 Wishful Thinking
2.40 Kalahari King
4.00 Aigle D'Or

£3 Patent gogogo  ;D ;D ;D

1.30 Wishful Thinking
2.05 Sivota
2.40 Voy Por Ustedes
3.20 Big Bucks

On that basis, how do you ever have a bet?  Very few have a long term edge over the compilers/exchanges.  I certainly don't.  But I can have a bet because

a) I rarely bet on horses and it is nothing more than a punt ~ long run hardly comes into it. 
b) I'm not offering my tips to anyone under the guise that I do have an edge
c) I'm not qualified to do a lot of things, but I have to go through life backing my judgement in some areas, seeking advice from those that are qualified in other areas, otherwise I'd never get anything done.

Is McCririck really referring to his colleague as "Female"?

always

it's fe-mail

get in first winner of the festival!

That's what I get for not picking my own horses and just following the crowd.

it was 2nd

[ ] I bet favourites e/w.

It was traded at 1/3 for several £K on BF approaching the last [ ] I laid some of that.

just backed my first horse of the festival

Gauvain @ 11/1  (chickened out and went e/w)

on this too, gl us.

sigh

Rolling it up - on Grand Crus - for the 3.20

Go on Albertas!

Mate just called from Galway where he is spending St Paddy's day. Obv hammered giving me tips off an obv hammered Irish man!!
Let's go Cross Kennon, Beautiful Sound and aparently In Focus tomorrow?

sigh! I <3 horses!

Big Bucks is a machine

Thought about having a serious plunge on Big Bucks and didn't.  Normally when I do that, I'm cheering on the other horse.  But the way he found an extra length in the last 100 yards up the hill was wonderful to watch.

I have a horsey question,

Why are there horses in a race that don't have a shout of a chance of winning?   Given that it costs money to enter a race, why do they bother?  Did they win a satellite competition and win a place? 

Had......

£70 win on big bucks @evens

£20 win on junior @ 7/2

Bad day.. 3 2nd didn't help, Big Bucks was immense, no complaints there..

Dawn Dineen won the RUK tipping competition.

Is it our Laxie?

gotta love paddy power - just got an e-mail

A Ruby Thursday Indeed....Finally

Paddy Power has refunded all losing win single stakes on Grand Crus in the World Hurdle after Ruby Walsh rode Big Buck's to victory.

Your refund is now in your account.


wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

follow long term winners.

My only bets 2moro......

£90 win Imperial Commander @9/2
£10 e/w Long Run @5/1

Still saying good to soft. Is it bolloks, times and hoses winning that prefer no cut in the ground.

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii - that's me!!!  Pity I don't live in the UK though.   rotflmfao  Read terms and conditions AFTER entering the damn comp.  Sigh.

Wat was the prize?

£5k for first.  Was tied with someone else so woulda been £2,500 I suppose.  Sighhhhhhhhhh

MUG

 rotflmfao  Ah now...to be fair I did put a drunken bet on Junior in the last.

and she only backed Jr... talk about shutting the gate after the hourse has bolted !!!


FECKING MUG !!!

BIG day ahead... Loads going on, praying for a better day than yesterday

Got bets in all races bar the marting pipe.. Main fancies are are Dirar in the County, backed it earlier in week @ 10's, Shoreacres in the Grand Annual which I've got @ 14/1 and Long Run in GC @ 6/1

Good luck anyone getting involved.

im really looking forward to today - afternoon in the pub watching the nags and hopefully binking a few

GL all - and keep posting your tips

Gutted it's the last day already.
At least BH won't post this again for a year.

Ante Post bets on Dirar @ 14/1 and Midnight Chase @ 25/1

If one of these win, I am out of it for the week.

If neither win watch out for the nipping PM's.

Probably going to add Long Run in the GC. Think it should be clear favourite.

GL.

paddy power doing money back bets if your horse finishes 2nd to Imperial Commander - would seem long run @9/2 becomes a  free roll? Im on

sdfgfbjvkmsxdfgvibjocx 33/1 antepost on snaptie gone like the wind.

Firstly you never know- if you squint, you can often see some justification that your horse could be suitable. Sometimes you have to squint a lot.

Secondly 3rd or 4th prize for one of these races is often more than 1st prize every other day of the year.

And thirdly, if you are an owner you get free tickets to the best seats in the house, and some people just want to own a horse that runs at Cheltenham, and do it for the "day out" factor.

VC also doing free bet if you back 1 to win and it comes 2nd OR 3rd.


Also

fkin joke,  dafsdhgjhgfdsasdffgjhhgfdsa

I'm on Imperial Commander @ 9/2, he's lightly raced, an out and out course specialist and has his ground.

I've also got small interests on:

Third Intention in the Triumph @ 14

Alarazi @ 10 in the County Hurdle to collect the £50k bonus for Emma Lavelle.

Am just about in profit for the week, lots of bets today, but main one is Kempes in the Gold Cup, backed at 12's ante post - got a real feeling for it.

2 hours till i hit the pub  :D

+1

BBC have tipped pandorama at 12s in Gc?

DENMAN!

C'MON KAUTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WOULD LOVE IT IF WE BEAT THEM.

I think it might need some rain George to soften the ground.

im on mario kempes!!

am on long run to get me out of this week....

my sources at the course tell me its sill raining, and getting a bit heavier. Say it looks like continuing but hes no weatherman.

Oh no, it's stopped!

Probably going to bet every race today as I'm off. Can see myself quitting after no winners and an emotional Gold Cup.

Zarkander for me in the first.

Gonna back long run ftw and what a friend ew

Nice start. Free bet with B365 as a result so going for Alaivan in the next.

Winnaaarrr,

So pleased, usually I do terrible at horses but I've had such a fun week so far and whatever happens am up for the week, only peanuts for most but I'm having  a great time :)

Not a lot I like so gone small on Sybarite ew.

Wiiiiiiii

Anything called bob is good for my Money! Great start to my session!

Can't make my mind up on the Gold Cup!
Going to take advantage of VC's offer for refund on 2nd and 3rd.

Imperial Commander's drift has got my attention. Would be happy to see Kauto or Denman won.

Ok from now

Gc kempes + freerolling long run

Templer 22 courtesy of barmaids who liked his silks

Shoegazer

Pepe simo tip and on very big!

Oiseua de nuit

Just amazing late pick in the 4pm

If they are long I'm e/w

Let's Gogogogo

just had a chat with martin pipe and he strongly fancies Leos lucky star in the last race. get on ! the other pipe runner expected to go well too : )

Great Gold Cup. Well done Long Run backers!

Cleared up my pp losses from yesterday!

Norrrrrr

What channel will the racing be on after 4pm?

racing uk

any bookmaker

LOL @ the 4pm

Can someonE post results (top3) of last 2 races

Cheers

As predicted the Gold Cup did me in. Why is it not the last race?
Oh well. Ok day 1, poor day 2, decent day 3 and ok day 4. I'll take that for the entertainment.

4:00 - Christie's Foxhunter Chase Challenge Cup
Awaiting full result...
3m2½f, Class 2, £21,007.00
1 Zemsky 33/1
2 Mid Div And Creep 100/1
3 Oscar Delta 25/1
4 On The Fringe
24 ran
WIN: £68.00
EX: £2626.70 CSF: £1770.10
TRICAST: £56151.86


3:20 - totesport Cheltenham Gold Cup Chase Grade 1
Full result
3m2½f, Class 1, £285,050.00
1 Long Run 7/2F
2 Denman 8/1
3 Kauto Star 5/1
NR: Albertas Run (IRE)
13 ran Distances: 7l, 4l, nse
TIME 6m 29.70s (fast by 9.30s)
Jockey: Mr S Waley-Cohen
Trainer: Nicky Henderson
WIN £4.30 PL £2.00, £3.00, £2.20
Ex £33.00
CSF £29.91
TRICAST £142.52

I hope he's right, already had a decent punt on this.

Gonna need surgery to get my hand off my cock if this comes in

Like a drowning man I've clung onto this branch to get me out of it.

C'mon Leo.

sigh 3rd . hope you got on ew.

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Ship a very big night out!

40/1 ew

Paiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Naked ladies of leeds beware!

Did indeed - thanks for the tip.

£60 down for the week - I'll take that. Losses mostly due to a couple of bus driver heinzs the first couple of days.

I'll be generous and say that Leo just didn't have the cruising speed, but it was eating up the ground and crossed the line the freshest looking horse, if only it was more in touch from 3 out it would have pissed it.

me too, thank you :)

Had a really good first day, Hurricane Fly was by far my biggest bet of the meeting ew @ 5/1.

Day two: My banker Time For Rupert got stuffed after he apparantly bled but First Lieutenant got my money back plus a small profit. I picked a couple more decent priced winners @ 10/1 and 14/1 with my pin for the tipping comp. but disciplined me didn't back them, grrrr.

Day three: This was just a bad day but I cut my losses and pulled in my horns after my main bet Wishfull Thinking got well turned-over after looking like the winner two out in the first race. I managed to abstain from the rest of what looked like a trappy card and for the first time this year felt once more that the festival had been diluted by stretching it to four days.

Day four was no good either as my banker and second biggest bet of the festival Imperial Commander seemed to "go wrong" after travelling like a winner at the top of the hill (traded for a few ££ @ 2.8 on BF) and I had a couple of other fancies too which also finished in the outhouse, however I managed to bink BH's tipping contest mainly down to having a red-hot pin on day two which will have got me out of it for the day.

Ended up about a monkey in front overall.

I'm happy and about to light a Montecristo#4 to go with my Hine cognac.

God I love Cheltenham.

lol just got in from my gold cup afternoon bevvy with old friends and played 6 hands of plo:

hand 1


Hero (BB): $600 (60 bb)
MP: $2,540.05 (254 bb)
CO: $3,907 (390.7 bb)
BTN: $1,288 (128.8 bb)
SB: $1,005 (100.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Jh 8s 9s Js
2 folds, BTN raises to $24.90, SB folds, Hero calls $14.90

Flop: ($54.80) 6c Jd 4h (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $34.80, Hero raises to $157.20, BTN raises to $524.40, Hero raises to $575.10 and is all-in, BTN calls $50.70

Turn: ($1,205.00) 3c (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($1,205.00) Qd (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $1,205.00 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 6c Jd 4h 3c Qd
Hero showed Jh 8s 9s Js and won $1,203 ($603.00 net)
BTN showed Kc 6d 9c 6s and lost (-$600 net)



hand 2 -5 fold

hand 6

Hero (UTG): $1,198 (119.8 bb)
MP: $2,495.05 (249.5 bb)
CO: $1,000 (100 bb)
BTN: $3,974 (397.4 bb)
SB: $1,047 (104.7 bb)
BB: $1,000 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Ad  Ahrt 9c 7d
Hero raises to $25, MP calls $25, 4 folds

Flop: ($65) 4d 3c Ac (2 players)
Hero bets $46.50, MP raises to $201.50, Hero calls $155

Turn: ($468) 2d (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $465, Hero raises to $930, MP raises to $1,395, Hero calls $41.50 and is all-in

River: ($2,411) 7s (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $2,411 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 4d 3c Ac 2d 7s
Hero showed Ad  Ahrt 9c 7d and won $2,408 ($1,210 net)
MP showed Th 4h 4s Js and lost (-$1,198 net)

#winning!

First big day courtesy of the nags!

I Paiiiiiiiiiiiiid

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Move up imo, 25/50 is calling  ;D

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1367809/Nicky-Hendersons-bet-raises-eyebrows-Cheltenham-CHARLES-SALE.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1367809/Nicky-Hendersons-bet-raises-eyebrows-Cheltenham-CHARLES-SALE.html)
Nice move Henderson.

I think it depends when he had the bet.

If he did it weeks ago or just before the first race I have no problem with it.

If he had the bet when he knew Binocular was a non runner but every one else thought there was no problem, then that's a different story altogther.

Really? If Wenger or Ferguson had a bet on them ending the season trophyless would you feel the same?
If he had the bet weeks ago I think it's wrong and stupid, not the worst thing in the world but not something I think he should be doing.
If I bet on the team i support to lose because it will make me feel better if we do I understand that but I don't think anyone that is responsible for making them win should see any positive in them losing.

The bet may not be shady but for the sake of integrity it's a ridic bet. A sport like horse racing which has constant rumours about how bent it is doesn't need one its own trainers betting against himself.

Say he put the bet on a day before the festival and it's the last race and his horse is looking good ftw and lo and behold it somehow finishes second after looking odds on to win and this bet comes to light- what would people say then?

Sports betting has to be whiter than white imo

Presumably those criticising Henderson also have a problem with football clubs that take out insurance on them not making Europe, winning the league or promotion.  It is a bet to win sixteen grand.  Training one Cheltenham winner is worth that to any trainer so not as though he is going to have any financial incentive.  As Keith says, he had placed the bet when the public didn't know about Binocular that would be a different matter but no evidence of this.