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Re: Harvey Weinstein
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October 31, 2017, 11:16:12 AM »
Quote from: DaveShoelace on October 31, 2017, 10:58:24 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on October 31, 2017, 10:39:58 AM
So how come Harvey Weinstein is vilified, disgraced and ruined while Donald 'grab em by the pussy' Trump is still POTUS?
You know the difference between a vulgar comment to another man, and what appears to be 20 odd years of sexual harassment and rape to a multitude of women?
I'm no fan of Trump either but all these false equivalencies made whenever somebody unrelated does something bad just takes attention away from the plethora of strong arguments against him.
(All said in a polite tone as I love me some Red Dog)
Trump has way more history than a vulgar comment, including multiple accusations of rape. He has been well and truly vilified for his history, but was still elected. Guess there is so much shit around about him, and he is an expert in deflecting, so it is hard to keep up.
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Quote from: RED-DOG on October 31, 2017, 11:08:09 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on October 31, 2017, 11:05:48 AM
Quote from: DaveShoelace on October 31, 2017, 10:58:24 AM
Quote from: RED-DOG on October 31, 2017, 10:39:58 AM
So how come Harvey Weinstein is vilified, disgraced and ruined while Donald 'grab em by the pussy' Trump is still POTUS?
You know the difference between a vulgar comment to another man, and what appears to be 20 odd years of sexual harassment and rape to a multitude of women?
I'm no fan of Trump either but all these false equivalencies made whenever somebody unrelated does something bad just takes attention away from the plethora of strong arguments against him.
(All said in a polite tone as I love me some Red Dog)
Help, Barry is sexually harassing me.
You do make a good point though Baz. Witness this 'story'.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41812281
By focusing on these more minor news stories and calling this a bandwagon, aren't you diminishing all the serious accusations that have come to light?
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October 31, 2017, 01:30:20 PM »
This non-story from the BBC re-ignites my discomfort with the power of the fourth estate. I do not question the absolute need for a free press, but so often they dictate the agenda, steering public attention away from the issues that really do matter (gender discrimination, sexual assault/rape and abuse of power) to the political point-scoring, outer reaches/boundaries of these matters. This simply serves to dilute the key message, which is a great shame.
Yes, let’s make sure that Weinstein gets what he deserves for his behaviour, but let the courts decide. And yes, if there’s more serious offenders like him out there, let them be exposed too. But please, don’t distract from these serious crimes by publishing claims of every bit of lewd or schoolboy behaviour from every living (or deceased) public figure - particularly when the “victim” insists that she’s no victim!
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October 31, 2017, 01:39:51 PM »
Quote from: 4KSuited on October 31, 2017, 01:30:20 PM
This non-story from the BBC re-ignites my discomfort with the power of the fourth estate. I do not question the absolute need for a free press, but so often they dictate the agenda, steering public attention away from the issues that really do matter (gender discrimination, sexual assault/rape and abuse of power) to the political point-scoring, outer reaches/boundaries of these matters. This simply serves to dilute the key message, which is a great shame.
Yes, let’s make sure that Weinstein gets what he deserves for his behaviour, but let the courts decide. And yes, if there’s more serious offenders like him out there, let them be exposed too. But please, don’t distract from these serious crimes by publishing claims of every bit of lewd or schoolboy behaviour from every living (or deceased) public figure - particularly when the “victim” insists that she’s no victim!
This.
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November 01, 2017, 11:33:46 AM »
I see Kevin spacey is next in the firing line. A barman accuses him of inappropriate behaviour after watching him drink a bottle of jack before taking out his johnson.
However the same guy thinks swapping his £20 Casio for an inebriated customer's £5k timepiece is appropriate behaviour.
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November 01, 2017, 11:50:53 AM »
Quote from: MANTIS01 on November 01, 2017, 11:33:46 AM
I see Kevin spacey is next in the firing line. A barman accuses him of inappropriate behaviour after watching him drink a bottle of jack before taking out his johnson.
However the same guy thinks swapping his £20 Casio for an inebriated customer's £5k timepiece is appropriate behaviour.
I bet he woke up in the morning feeling P Diddy.
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November 01, 2017, 11:53:59 AM »
How long before a woman is investigated for touching a bloke's knee or making a lewd remark?
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November 01, 2017, 12:11:58 PM »
It's getting silly now. Soon it will be "he looked at me in that way men do".
Prime Minister Theresa May's deputy, Damian Green, has said allegations of inappropriate behaviour towards a female activist are "completely false".
Mr Green has instructed libel lawyers over the claims, the BBC understands.
Tory activist Kate Maltby wrote in the Times that he "fleetingly" touched her knee in a pub in 2015, and in 2016 sent her a "suggestive" text message.
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New allegations have emerged from a number of men accusing Kevin Spacey of sexual misconduct.
US filmmaker Tony Montana claims he was groped by the actor in a Los Angeles bar in 2003.
Montana says he was left with PTSD for six months after he claims Spacey "forcefully" grabbed his crotch
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Just lol.
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November 01, 2017, 02:04:17 PM »
A sheep kicked me in the bollocks once and I didn't Have PTSD for six months.
(I did walk funny for a fortnight though)
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The trivialisation of sexual assault and harrassment is one of the reasons people don't report it.
People shouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable or threatened by people who have power over them.
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Quote from: The Camel on November 01, 2017, 03:14:06 PM
The trivialisation of sexual assault and harrassment is one of the reasons people don't report it.
People whouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable or threatened by people who have power over them.
Quite, but publicity and the lure of financial gain is one of the reasons why people falsify or exaggerate it.
There has to be a line, and "touched my knee briefly last year" isn't it.
IMHO of course.
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November 01, 2017, 03:40:51 PM »
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 01, 2017, 03:33:45 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 01, 2017, 03:14:06 PM
The trivialisation of sexual assault and harrassment is one of the reasons people don't report it.
People whouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable or threatened by people who have power over them.
Quite, but publicity and the lure of financial gain is one of the reasons why people falsify or exaggerate it.
There has to be a line, and "touched my knee briefly last year" isn't it.
IMHO of course.
When a woman is scared to come to work because of the unwanted attention of a man in a position of power.
If the cause of her anxiety is her boss is touching her knee, then absolutely it is sexual harrassment.
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November 01, 2017, 03:42:32 PM »
Quote from: The Camel on November 01, 2017, 03:40:51 PM
Quote from: RED-DOG on November 01, 2017, 03:33:45 PM
Quote from: The Camel on November 01, 2017, 03:14:06 PM
The trivialisation of sexual assault and harrassment is one of the reasons people don't report it.
People whouldn't be made to feel uncomfortable or threatened by people who have power over them.
Quite, but publicity and the lure of financial gain is one of the reasons why people falsify or exaggerate it.
There has to be a line, and "touched my knee briefly last year" isn't it.
IMHO of course.
When a woman is scared to come to work because of the unwanted attention of a man in a position of power.
If the cause of her anxiety is her boss is touching her knee, then absolutely it is sexual harrassment.
I agree.
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Five pages of men discussing what constitutes sexual harassment of women.
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