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Very First Hand of a Tourney
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February 26, 2008, 07:08:16 PM »
OK, $109 EPT Sat....
Blinds 10/20, very first hand
Button Raises to $80
On the SB You look down at
and reraise to 240
BB gets out of the way
Button shoves all in
What do you do? (Starting stack is 1500)
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Insta-call.
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February 26, 2008, 07:22:50 PM »
Call he has JJ.
AK at best.
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February 26, 2008, 07:24:07 PM »
floppy, insta call?
what sort of range have you got him on to insta call, beyond AA/KK and AK?
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February 26, 2008, 07:32:38 PM »
if its a rebuy i call if its a freezeout i pass min he has is ak you can get away from this and find a better spot no need to go broke here
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Quote from: TightEnd on February 26, 2008, 07:24:07 PM
floppy, insta call?
what sort of range have you got him on to insta call, beyond AA/KK and AK?
He has AK at best surely. Even in a $109 sat there are donks pushing with this and much much worse, better to gamble now against this unknown player looking at the probably good side of a coinflip at worst now than going against a good player later. If you lose, you can always play another...
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Re: Very First Hand of a Tourney
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Quote from: stewart on February 26, 2008, 07:32:38 PM
if its a rebuy i call if its a freezeout i pass min he has is ak you can get away from this and find a better spot no need to go broke here
Without any information on the player you need to assume he has one of 4 holdings- JJ KK AA or AK, only 1 of which you are in a desirable position so I wait for a better spot- obviously he could be a complete donk but if you have no information of this I dont see how you can call
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February 26, 2008, 08:01:43 PM »
So would those of you that are choosing to fold actually push as the villain with KK/AA/AK?
not knocking, just asking and would like to hear reasons why.
Geo
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Quote from: Geo the Sarge on February 26, 2008, 08:01:43 PM
So would those of you that are choosing to fold actually push as the villain with KK/AA/AK?
not knocking, just asking and would like to hear reasons why.
Geo
In this situation; Raise, Reraise, reraise all in I do push (especially online) as you do get called a high percentage of the time, if I'm honest Preflop is probably the biggest downside of my game though. I usually push AA KK as you are getting called a lot of the time-I think a further reraise looks even more fishy than an all in. With AK(which I am hopeless at playing) I push as I expect a race- I dont like reraising further only to get called and miss the flop
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February 26, 2008, 08:29:37 PM »
This is the spot where the beauty of online databases comes into play imo. When this exact situation used to come up in sngs, I used to sharkscope the player and if he was a losing player i would get it in but if not i would pass.
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Quote from: Hairydude on February 26, 2008, 08:16:48 PM
Quote from: Geo the Sarge on February 26, 2008, 08:01:43 PM
So would those of you that are choosing to fold actually push as the villain with KK/AA/AK?
not knocking, just asking and would like to hear reasons why.
Geo
In this situation; Raise, Reraise, reraise all in I do push (especially online) as you do get called a high percentage of the time, if I'm honest Preflop is probably the biggest downside of my game though. I usually push AA KK as you are getting called a lot of the time-I think a further reraise looks even more fishy than an all in. With AK(which I am hopeless at playing) I push as I expect a race- I dont like reraising further only to get called and miss the flop
Quote from: Longy on February 26, 2008, 08:29:37 PM
This is the spot where the beauty of online databases comes into play imo. When this exact situation used to come up in sngs, I used to sharkscope the player and if he was a losing player i would get it in but if not i would pass.
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Thanks guys, reason I asked is that I had similar recently against a guy who was a solid player and I was stunned when I raised early in a tourney (7k starting stack)and he pushed all in with AA. Never got a chance to ask him why.
Geo
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February 27, 2008, 09:41:35 AM »
a) was it a rebuy, easy call if it is. f/o given its the first hand and people are dumb, i still call.
b) far more combos of AK than AA/KK and ur a 57% fave over the most likely holding.
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February 27, 2008, 01:01:26 PM »
callcallcallcallcallcallcallcallcallcallcall
Talk of passing to this line 75BBs deep in the first hand is ABSURD!!
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