The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[RED-DOG]

An interesting read with hindsight.


http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=65461.msg2047942#msg2047942

[nirvana]

I don't think Labour has much chance in the next election whoever wins.

Better off having Corbyn as leader for the next election and massively increase and energise the core Labour vote.

And then Dan Jarvis, Stella Creasy or Keir Starmer take over for 2025 when we'll have a real shot again hopefully.

Bet gonna come in one year early

[Pokerpops]

An interesting read with hindsight.


http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=65461.msg2047942#msg2047942

Those were the days where we had some proper debate. Lots of names in there that are missing now.
Wonder what happened to David 3103? He talked some shite!

[RED-DOG]

He was a regular poster though.

[Pokerpops]

He was a regular poster though.

Indeed he was.

[Pokerpops]

It’s time for the Conservative MPs to wake up and smell the coffee. One accepted candidate with a declared set of senior ministers lined up. A coalition of genuine Tory beliefs has to be put together over the weekend and a new leader/PM  confirmed by Tuesday.
Who? Fuck knows. Not Sunak though. Wallace seems sound.

Frankly, I have little faith in this mob who broke Hillaire Belloc’s rule when they let go of the hand of Nurse BoJo. But I have zero faith in the capabilities of Sir Keef Starmer and his ragtag band. Especially since the likelihood is that they will need the support of the LibDems.

Why not?

Because he’s a snake oil salesman. A Tory version of Blair. Without the charm. Probably without the same level of luck too.

Don’t just take my word for it. Here’s Alexei Style’s view..


https://twitter.com/jrc1921/status/1590789154568540160?s=21

[The Camel]

I honestly believe I'm the only person in the UK with a balanced and thoughtful outlook

As true today as it was in 2017.

[nirvana]

I honestly believe I'm the only person in the UK with a balanced and thoughtful outlook

As true today as it was in 2017.

Tyty

[TightEnd]

A lot of water has passed under the bridge

A few Prime Ministers on, here we are again

Brexit went well. So much so that all parties cannot resist talking about it this time round :-)

Anyone for a general election discussion?

[TightEnd]

Betfair has Conservative seats 100-149 favourite.

They currently have 345

Less than 50 seats is 12/1 currently

Johnson's 2019 coalition involved adding "red wall" Leave voters focussed on Brexit while retaining "blue wall" Remain Cons who saw Corbyn as a bigger threat. Brexit and Corbyn now both "gone" as issues, and the bill for this strategy is coming due...

the red wall is going red again
the blue wall is going yellow

I far prefer Con less than 100 seats to more than 200 on 4th July.

I have moved to a coastal constituency which is currently a 20k Conservative majority. They've picked a young Labour candidate who ordinarily would be a no-hoper but they think its neck and neck this time

Sunak was canvassing yesterday in Bosworth, an old constituency of mine...26,000 majority.......normally there would be no need for him to visit there...

[redsimon]

Betfair has Conservative seats 100-149 favourite.

They currently have 345

Less than 50 seats is 12/1 currently

Johnson's 2019 coalition involved adding "red wall" Leave voters focussed on Brexit while retaining "blue wall" Remain Cons who saw Corbyn as a bigger threat. Brexit and Corbyn now both "gone" as issues, and the bill for this strategy is coming due...

the red wall is going red again
the blue wall is going yellow

I far prefer Con less than 100 seats to more than 200 on 4th July.

I have moved to a coastal constituency which is currently a 20k Conservative majority. They've picked a young Labour candidate who ordinarily would be a no-hoper but they think its neck and neck this time

Sunak was canvassing yesterday in Bosworth, an old constituency of mine...26,000 majority.......normally there would be no need for him to visit there...

great yarmouth?.....always wondered if elections are more interesting in a marginal or swing seat, lived in a safe labour seat all my adult life so elections tend to be mundane

[KarmaDope]

Betfair has Conservative seats 100-149 favourite.

They currently have 345

Less than 50 seats is 12/1 currently

Johnson's 2019 coalition involved adding "red wall" Leave voters focussed on Brexit while retaining "blue wall" Remain Cons who saw Corbyn as a bigger threat. Brexit and Corbyn now both "gone" as issues, and the bill for this strategy is coming due...

the red wall is going red again
the blue wall is going yellow

I far prefer Con less than 100 seats to more than 200 on 4th July.

I have moved to a coastal constituency which is currently a 20k Conservative majority. They've picked a young Labour candidate who ordinarily would be a no-hoper but they think its neck and neck this time

Sunak was canvassing yesterday in Bosworth, an old constituency of mine...26,000 majority.......normally there would be no need for him to visit there...

great yarmouth?.....always wondered if elections are more interesting in a marginal or swing seat, lived in a safe labour seat all my adult life so elections tend to be mundane

I would imagine you would feel like your vote is worth more in a swing seat. Sadly for me I've always lived in safe Labour seats when growing up and even during the Brexit years. Now it's even worse, I'm in the safest of safe Sinn Fein seats so not only is there no anticipation for me of an upset, I know my area isn't even going to have an MP that takes a seat!