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July 14, 2013, 12:58:32 AM »
Brook was the better fighter tonight but he's in a really tough division. I don't see it being a problem as such, as long as he doesn't get over-hyped. It was important for him to win tonight and I'm pleased he got to draw a line under the last year.
Campbell could hardly have had a better debut. Technically, he looked absolutely fantastic. So well balanced and very quick hands. Going to need to be quick to rise through the ranks at 25, though.
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Looking forward too hearing who Kells fighting next
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Quote from: kinboshi on July 14, 2013, 12:49:51 AM
Brook did well tonight, but struggled to get his opponent out of there again. Thought the ref stopped it too early, as his opponent was still defending himself and didn't look hurt.
Not sure if Brook has the power to hurt world class welterweights, but we'll see. Classy boxer and nice combinations at times, but is he truly world-class?
It was what is becoming commonly known as a "British Stoppage". That never gets stopped in a US ring at that point as whilst Jones was shipping a few he wasn't badly hurt. As for Brooks power I don't think it will trouble any world class welter and I think it will take a fine piece of matchmaking for him to win a world title. The consensus last night seemed to be that Mosley is who is being lined up for September.
Campbell looked very good, jury out on Ogogo though for me.
Also Sky really really need to get a new commentary team.
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Missed the Ogogo fight. He didn't look that impressive then? Had high hopes for him to go a long way.
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Quote from: kinboshi on July 14, 2013, 08:44:28 AM
Missed the Ogogo fight. He didn't look that impressive then? Had high hopes for him to go a long way.
Lack of punching power will be an issue when he steps up (he caught his opponent on the ear and burst his ear drum which scrambled him, prior to that hadn't troubled his opponent at all). Technically good and he was up against a decent opponent in only his 3rd fight but I wasn't all that impressed. Early days though in fairness.
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Quote from: Bazzaboy on July 14, 2013, 07:51:17 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on July 14, 2013, 12:49:51 AM
Brook did well tonight, but struggled to get his opponent out of there again. Thought the ref stopped it too early, as his opponent was still defending himself and didn't look hurt.
Not sure if Brook has the power to hurt world class welterweights, but we'll see. Classy boxer and nice combinations at times, but is he truly world-class?
It was what is becoming commonly known as a "British Stoppage". That never gets stopped in a US ring at that point as whilst Jones was shipping a few he wasn't badly hurt. As for Brooks power I don't think it will trouble any world class welter and I think it will take a fine piece of matchmaking for him to win a world title. The consensus last night seemed to be that Mosley is who is being lined up for September.
Campbell looked very good, jury out on Ogogo though for me.
Also Sky really really need to get a new commentary team.
Sugar Shane Mosely that's a great fight for Kell to get back in the mix, although he'll have too step it up another gear and be prepared to go the full 12 rounds...
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Quote from: Bazzaboy on July 14, 2013, 08:51:49 AM
Quote from: kinboshi on July 14, 2013, 08:44:28 AM
Missed the Ogogo fight. He didn't look that impressive then? Had high hopes for him to go a long way.
Lack of punching power will be an issue when he steps up (he caught his opponent on the ear and burst his ear drum which scrambled him, prior to that hadn't troubled his opponent at all). Technically good and he was up against a decent opponent in only his 3rd fight but I wasn't all that impressed. Early days though in fairness.
I agree that Ogogo is technically sound, and with a bit more quality coaching I'm sure his punching power will develop (possibly). Think he's a fighter I
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Re sky getting a new commentary team, I would love Nick Halling back doing the NFL coverage, even though I think he does a good job in this.
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Quote from: Tal on July 14, 2013, 09:58:43 AM
Re sky getting a new commentary team, I would love Nick Halling back doing the NFL coverage, even though I think he does a good job in this.
No thank you
Not a boxing man, but he can stick his NFL expertise where the sun doesn't shine. Hideous "expert"
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Quote from: TightEnd on July 14, 2013, 10:05:44 AM
Quote from: Tal on July 14, 2013, 09:58:43 AM
Re sky getting a new commentary team, I would love Nick Halling back doing the NFL coverage, even though I think he does a good job in this.
No thank you
Not a boxing man, but he can stick his NFL expertise where the sun doesn't shine. Hideous "expert"
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Quote from: redarmi on July 13, 2013, 03:10:18 PM
Quote from: The Baron on July 13, 2013, 08:33:53 AM
Agree.
Even more so Hopkins Jones.
This is why the likes of Mayweather will never go into the legendary category. People like Leonard must yawn at it all.
Not really a reason to hate boxing though. Just a reason to admire more people like Carl Froch who take them all on.
Yes, fair enough. I just hate the politics. Boxing could learn a lot from UFC.
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Tyson Fury will learn a lot from UFC if the challenge he made to fight Cain Velasquez in the octagon ever gets made a reality.
I lol'd when he said he'd "fight Cain, then go back to boxing" and some comedian apparently suggested that should have read "fight Cain and go back in a box."
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Audley Harrison was the same plane home from Vegas as me.
Fck me he's a big unit.
I bet precisely zero of the people who call him Audrey would dare say it to his face.
He'd break them in two.
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Quote from: The Camel on July 16, 2013, 04:44:38 PM
Audley Harrison was the same plane home from Vegas as me.
Fck me he's a big unit.
I bet precisely zero of the people who call him Audrey would dare say it to his face.
He'd tell them he'd break them in two and then not throw a punch
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Quote from: The Camel on July 16, 2013, 04:44:38 PM
Audley Harrison was the same plane home from Vegas as me.
Fck me he's a big unit.
I bet precisely zero of the people who call him Audrey would dare say it to his face.
He'd break them in two.
That's the annoying thing about him. He's got all the natural attributes to be a top-class heavyweight boxer: speed, size, strength, power, technique. The thing he doesn't have is the drive or the bottle. Shame really.
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