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this happened back in february, imo its very funny, however there is a serious side to it


was at the gym near town today,jjb.i go most days.today had a real good work out and left at about 1pm,walked through town to pick my car up. stopped for a pie then moved on.as i finished my pie i chucked the remains at a bin,part of the paper missed.two police women spotted the incident and both looked at me as if to say well come on pick it up.they stood with arms folded and gave me a dirty look.i was going to pick it up, but did not like there attitude so i carried on walking.they soon caught up with me."excuse me"...EXCUSE ME.so i turned and said go on then tell me off.the hobby bobby got on her high horse and spouted public order, litter and some other bull.i just lol.i could see they were getting annoyed.anyhoo they told me to go back and pick up this small piece of paper.so here's what happened next
what do you two think you are gonna do if i dont.the actual police woman threatened to arrest me.i then said well look girls i'm 42 just been to the gym and i'm knackered but if you can catch me i'll let you arrest me.
they looked at each other bemused,and sort of in a daze.as if to say well what do we do now.i strolled off at a brisk pace,then one made a lunge for me so i was on my toes.i sprinted for about 10 yards and it was all over

i might sound like a bit of a cock.the fact is i had every intention of picking the litter up.until these two pathetic excuses for a police force gave me attitude.one of them was clearly over weight and the other was a fat biach.thats why the pursuit lasted only seconds.i pay there wages to fight crime and uphold the law catch the odd criminal.these girls could not catch a cold,or fight there way out of a paper bag..it must have been that time of the month.lard ass police women are a joke

this is my opinion, as i said i'm walking on eggshells at the moment.
your thoughts

I think you've answered my question on your other thread.

been nice knowing you.

You must be proud of yourself.

is someone seeking attention

oh boy.

I think he should run a RSQ!

You got that bit right !

Thinly disguised "I'm a litter lout with an attitude problem, an overimaginative imagination, and a dislike of women based on my secret deep down inside fear of them" post IMO.

he forgot the big

where was the thin disguise? :D

Great minds think alike!

You missed 'lacking a shift key'.

What stage in your life do you think your misogyny really kicked into gear?  Was it one incident in particular or did it just kinda develop over time?

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YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnNrwmk2RIk

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iyCquiuoKk

Disdain for the polis is healthy in a democracy.  ;hide;

That's f*ing haorrible booder  rotflmfao

On that we agree.

you sit there and judge, the point i'm making is this, these two were younge fresh faced police women. apart from making a mountain out of a mole hill, they were at least 5 stone overweigh. i clearly need to mine meld into your way of thinking

Lol, I've just found something very amusing.

If you google search 'bye bye bigusdikus' then hit Images, it returns the blonde logo. Could it be a sign?!

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That's a bit harsh on Rod, no?

We can only judge on what's been put in front of us.  Don't you agree?

why do you keep posting shit from other forums? has nothing interesting happened in your life since you outran a fat policewoman in february?

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YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81Z9R6aLlHc

I'm in shock.

Not about this thread, but more about the fact that it has not yet been removed and this user removed from posting such rubbish (again).

Comedy responses though.

Eck posting his favourite songs again.  Wrong thread!!!

a lot of interesting things happened recently, i just don't think your ready for them

hmmmmmm (unembedded - go to the youtube page and check out the names listed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU8E4T7Uqj4

Sometimes it can be better to give 'new' members a chance to become acclimatised to the forum, posts that seem out of line will usually be pointed out by other members, giving the new member a chance to see how we do things round here.

Of course, there is always the chance that the new member is always going to post a load of tosh, or be a prat (of course I'm not saying that is necessarily the case here...) and the Mods can review the situation.

But, if we banned every member that posted a load of tosh, kinboshi would be banned many moons ago.  ;)

lol camel tooooe and a half.

If you'd listened to me at the beginning.......

Bolt will love him, please let them meet...

as an employer, would you employ a sumo as a jockey, to me its the same as the police women, they are on the gravey train, stealing money from the tax payer. they are not able to do the job for which they are paid. walking the streets, looking after the public

off to the gym now, i expect to come back to some intelligent response

Thought provoking stuff Bigus.

It's not just the harsh reality of the story that I find intriguing but the poetic way you put it across.

We normally only get stories of this quality from Red but his are few and far between.

I think most will agree that as you read you get drawn in to the story and can picture yourself in exactly the same situation. I found myself in an almost dream like state as I temporarily understood how it must feel to be bigusdickus.

Truly awe inspiring.

More please.

What flavour pie are you having afterwards?

welease woderwick

Make sure you put all the wrapper in the bin this time!!

This.

Bigus is quality IMO.. I reckon he should write a diary.

funny you should say that - he does look a bit like bolt!

(http://blondepoker.com/blondepedia/images/photos/photo_9363.jpg)

Bigus, is your name a spoonerism?

you're probably going to be disappointed tbh

That sounds fairly intelligent.

not really - I should have capitalised 'spoonerism' of course.  I should also have specified that I meant his real name.  digusbikus doesn't make an awful lot of sense.  then again, I am just a woman, so trying to attain a level where I can give intelligent input is an uphill battle for me.

Bigus....what do you do for a living?

Good point; who wrote that for you? ;)

Any word with more than 2 syllables sounds intelligent to Boshi

once more, let me put it a tamer way. shattered walking through town after a workout. attempted to look cool buy hitting the bin, a small piece of the wrapper floated to the ground. being a tidy person i was about to pick it up when two imposing, pretty, young police ladies took the huff. i was tired and in no mood,but when they gave me the old attitude my demeanor changed. i was hoping this story would highlight the fact, that they were out of shape. and in some twisted fashion they may even have been motivated by my insolence. thats the boring way of telling it.. i shall concider myself censored. i shall try and dumb/ tone down my posts(thats if i get the chance to make any more) and be more conciderate. i shall concider myself told... nothing againt women as long as they know there place(yes thats a joke) and where you get that pic, good damn i look good. my name is neil rutter
hope this helps

you're just compounding the mistake now. you should've capitalised spoonerism the second time you used it when explaining how you should've capitalised it the first time

yes.  thank you.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL .. WP Claire

thank you.  my work here is done.  I have women's things to be getting on with.

were is the pic from guys, are you secret service

You were about to pick it up? Hmm doubt it, they wouldn't have jumped down your throat if so.

i shall try and dumb down my posts

No need, really. They are dumb enough already.

I thought OP was awesome and you should crack on with whatever.

Dickus for mod?   :dontask:

was trying to post something witty but got this message.


Warning - while you were typing bigusdikus was spouting more shite. You may wish to review your post. or maybe not  

brilliant strategy by the blonde management this, to employ such an obvious troll...the place is almost interesting again....

No really, I love it.

If someone told me this story in the pub after a couple of pints I'd probably be laughing.

Not quite sure what role the title "time of the month" has to add to the proceedings, but all the best writers leave you with a bit of wonder so they do.

Oh I can't be bothered - so much to say but life is too short.

4/6 i'll be off by the end of the week
interesting

Can't get that price anymore bud.

You're 2/5 now.

I'm going to miss your love the minute you walk out that door.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-l5FyA3pgo

i imagine some of you are taking the piss, some of you are maybe giving me back handed compliments. because i am new, can you dumb it down for me, please

a minute ago you demanded intelligent responses, now you want us to dumb down?

I agree with OP's point about people not doing the jobs they are hired to do! Its hard enough trying to find work these days! You hear people moaning about their job and how they hate it ect but still they keep doing half a job when there is people wanting to work harder but not getting a fair crack!

i'm confused,but anyhoo if i am 2/5 to booted off, does that mean i'm 3/1 to stay

[ ] yes

dude you have self esteem issues.

I want your babies and you think it's a level... jeez

Especially when you spend so much of it in lifts.

mods, can you tell me on a scale of 1-10,or in poker terms, eg a royal flush means i'm a gonner, a pair of sixes means i'm safe,etc.it will help me place my bet

is anyone ready for another retro post

Now lets look at it from the other side.

Two police women working in a town.

Trying to cope with the snappy February weather as well as having to wear a load of kit, stab vests, extra clothes etc, our gaze falls across macho Mr 'macho' Man, thinking he's all that while eating pies in his shell suit that looks like its fresh from Liverpool docks, so full of himself is he that he thinks he can do the old dunking shot into a nearby waste bin, and to their amusement he misses. Now, there is enforcement that states that litter louts have to be pulled up, given spot fines and so on, but thankfully it looks like the guy is not so much of a prat after all, he's bending down to pick up his litter. We're relieved at this, as we don't really like dealing with these types of prats. But, it's our job and sadly we must if needed.

Oh no, what's happened, macho guy has stopped once he's seen us, what is he doing? We both are praying that we don't actually have to go and talk to him, more paperwork, FOL.

We'll do the folding arm thing, then he'll realise we've seen him, and hopefully that'll be the end of it... oh sod it, he's walking away, no we'll have to speak to the damn fool. FOL +2

"Excuse me Sir..." we tell him what we've seen, we tell him what the law allows us to do, but Mr Pieman thinks he's a hard man now, he's going to tell us what is going to happen. Shit, we really don't need this, deal with drunks all evening, out in the freezing cold and now we have to deal with idiots in the high street too. We just don't get paid enough for this.

By the time we've listened to the poor deranged fool, the littler has blown away. No need to inform this guy though, we can get a little mileage now from him and it'll give us something to talk about over a brew later. All of a sudden he makes this little run down the high street, shell suit flapping in the wind....

Do we really need to still speak to him and waste more of our lives, hell no, let him think he has one little victory this year.

Who pointed you in Blonde's direction?

Btw you just flopped back to back royal flushes imo

fyp

Ah, missed that, many thanks xx

This is like the film Vantage Point.  I wonder if there'll be another installment, maybe from a passer-by, or maybe the pie-man who could see the incident unravel.

ginger you are very imaginative, you are also off the mark, don't do shell suits, if you or any of the other members were in my company, you would find me polite,well mannered and a few superlatives that i may include at a later date
f me can't get a post in sideways

I think Bigus Dickus was a character from "The Life of Brian"

don't worry about Ginger...it's probably just the...erm...I refer you to the title of the thread.

Did Red just do a Dell?   ;boltpp;

Looks like it.

I believe so - I refer the hon gentleman to my post on an earlier thread.....:D


http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=42518.0

I like this post, more than i can say about the original post.





That is all.

mods, is it worth giving you a preview before i post, then you can decide if the people are ready for it??????????????????????????????

We're ready for it.

For once, I honestly hope I am.

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For Red (ps I didn't get the spoonerism gag until Neil's real name was posted either).

ok i'll find one, pm you, who would like to cencor my next retro post?

just pm'ed a story to one of the mods, i hope its tame enough. it may come back censored

No censorship, feel free to post if you wish.

why keep posting retro posts?  Is it because they're so well articulated you feel like they should have a wider audience?  do you have anything original for us?

just thought i'd ease my way in, treat you all with kit gloves. to be honest somthing whacky happens every week.i think my life is far from mundane. i do enjoy sharing my exploits. some, nah most are classified and censored by me.

Well what you waiting for?

ginger is that no censorship on this particular post, or all of them

I think what she's saying is use your own discretion and post whatever you think is suitable.

The original story was fake, like the wife-prop bet one, designed to get some forum action and attention. Job done. WP OP.

OP sounds familiar anyway, glesga 2?

not really retro, this happened 3 weeks ago. these are just my thoughts

women never cease to amaze.
at 5.21 this morning my wife let out a loud scream(agony not ecstasy)...wtf,whats goin on girl?my toe my toe.heres the story

three weeks ago she broke her toe in a mountain climbing accident.off she went to A/E and had it reset,and as she reminded me a thousand times it was very fecin painful.comparisons to childbirth were muted.i have had three daughters and never felt a thing,dunno what all the fuss is about.
anyhow it seems i had kicked out at her and dislocated the same toe(knew it would be my fault)she had her pj's on limping around in tears.ok come on i'll take you up to A/E.she had woke everyone within a 5 mile radius at this stage,and i was beginning to feel responsible/guilty and sympathetic(and i didn't even know i had feelings) until.................

on one leg she attempts to get dressed and put her fecin makeup on ....you dippy bat just get in the car ...are you mad get in the car.all i heard on the way was"god i hope no one see's me"again i reiterated she had her priorities wrong."yes well you dont have to work there"

we were seen quite quick on this occasion,even though she told the nurse, then the doctor she had a dislocated toe.they thought it best to xray it anyway.to everyones surprise my wife's initial diagnosis was proved to be wrong(amazing)and it was only bruised,and i thought she was right about everything

the thing is,the vanity on display.not very practical putting makeup on

some jobs should be left to the men,women clearly are a different breed.given the choice to pick my own sex i'd go for the Y chromosome every time (Y being the male ?)

gotta draw the line at being called a liar, stay cool

posting a makey upey story here doesn't make you a liar. Why should people take issue with you holding and expressing that POV ? Do wimen become even more downtrodden because we continue stereotypes of them?

I don't believe you either but that's just my opinion.

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if you noticed i have tonesd it down, are you happy

toning it down made the last story really boring

have you got any more about running from the law?

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/106719/Fined-50-for-dropping-a-tenner

Sandy

might I suggest you welease woderwick.........maybe it is the Crow 2

yes i was on road wars or police camera action last week, or so some one said. if i get away with it you guys will be the 1st to know

Latest story was kak

bigus, I think you may already have peaked...  gg

trust me, i will never peak. censorship issues. i gotta be careful what i say

i have plenty of retro stuff, it seems you crave current events. watch this space

where are you skiing in your avatar?

You have my sympathy OP, life must be a bit of a struggle.

that was meribel this year, on my mates stag do. meribel is my most favourate ski place on the planet. its on utube

kenneths stag 09.....i'm teen

Looks pretty awesome, loads of good snow. Never been there, done Val DIsere and Chamonix a few times, not bad, a bit $$$ now. Best I ever had was Cortina/Arabba in N. Italy.

Sorry about the crash, hope you didn't break anything! :D

nothing broke, it was in the afternoon, the bastards had beasted me all day. i had to sneak off on my own i was that knackered. meribel is the dogs, i have been 12 times, done chamonix,val Torrens, alpe de aeux, and a few other french resorts, Austria not bad, banff in Canada was good, they are a bit safety conscious though..perfect conditions, which i have been lucky with over the years.allways come back with top tan

welcome to the forum, i was a bit puzzled by the first post but i was laughing most of the way through this thread, so thats got to be good :)

I remain puzzled.

puzzleing times, ty for your wecome, i believe i'm still odds on not to make the end of the week

I lol'd hard at this, top work dikus...

to be fair, i had been to the top 6/7 times, solair i think is called, i was feced, and had had plenty skiing that week. the legs had gone.. still did 4 hours the following morn b4 we flew that afternoon

Out of 10 where do you rate your skiing skillz?

i would say 6.5. i ski with some talented guys, in canada i had a week with martin or graham bell cant remember which. now he was quick, we went on one of those daily mail ski trips. stayed in the banff springs and omg it was the d's b's
maybe a 6.3

just watched the you tube video, i'm a 5 in the afternoon, an 8 in the morning, so thats a mean average of 6.5............

A couple of really good skiers coming down at the start, in the powder.

Did you ski Norquay when you were in Banff? Scariest run of my life. Big huge sign at the start saying 'DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS UNLESS YOU ARE A COMPETENT SKIER', wish I'd paid more attention :D

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don't enjoy the powder to much, prefer alpine, may consider telemark at some stage. yes some of the guys have done 100 holidays + and some are instructors, well 1 at least

and yes it did happen

Ummm sure did

ummm sure i did.. why not just say whats on your mind. everyone else does

I don't think your a bad guy, I also think your threads are interesting and spark debate.











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i hope my posts do make people sit up and enter into debate. i will be honest now, some of the things i have got up to, i look back and can hardly believe them myself. i may make an off the cuff remark on occasion, don't think for one second I'm making it up. i am constantly having to prove my "so called stories" 99.99% are true. i may euphemise occasionally, that's as far as it goes, i would not say i exaggerate. the sad thing is, only a handful of people know me, none of them ever doubt my word...
i do not think i am alone, when making a post, i honestly think i am right. surely when a person make's a statement they think there opinion is the correct one. slightly narcissistic, which is something i am working on. i have strong views on religion, politics, law and order, drugs, the smoking ban, poker and a million other topics. as i said i believe my opinions are the correct one's, and sometimes struggle with any type of disagreement. its in my nature. for me entering into a healthy debate, on occasion has swayed my views, this is one of the reasons i post.

they say, sticks and stones, and to be fair my word's, thought's can hurt no one.they also say the pen is mightier than the sword. the world is full of contradictions

What drives you so much to 'make people sit and enter into debate'?

I think with over 41,000 threads & nearly a million posts the board has plenty of debate already. Joining new & trying too hard makes you come across like one of those guys who come into a pub where no-one and try to dictate the conversation, while all the locals make in jokes that whoosh him.

I'm getting a bit bored of this thread now.


What are your views on the World's major religions then?

Do you want mine?

:D

I dislocated my little toe, it stuck out kinda like an L shape, looked pretty sick tbh, thinking back I shoulda took a piccy,hmmm anyway too late aint going to do it again just for a photo shoot. Back to the story, whilst I waited on Darren coming home to take me to A &  E all I could think was ..when is the pain going to start and how bad will this feel, amazingly it never started, yup no pain at all just awful to look at. The only part that hurt was the injections between my toes that they froze it with, now that was uncomfy, even the minutes that they took putting it back in place did not hurt.

Benefits obv

i am off playing golf in 10 mins, so here's a quick taster. religion for me is a form of child abuse.i was dragged up a catholic, and hated every minute of it. parents brain wash their kids. in short, why not let a person decide whether or not they wish to be religious, when they are old enough to make there own decisions. i see no good coming from religion, only hate and violence. remember the holy wars, i don't, but this is a contradiction, if i ever heard one. holy war/virgin whore, words that don't go together.i am an atheist, being brought up a catholic i can repent my sins on my death bed and be accepted into heaven, if i choose. maybe i'll edge my bets

i look forward to seeing your responses

kinboshi, i would love your views

Frighteningly close to yours.

;)

That's about religion in general though.

Don't you see any difference between individual religions?

Are some better or worse than others?

Me or Bigus?

Anyone - I'm thinking this could be a good thread to keep everything that could cause heated debate in.

Not that this topic necessarily will - I think there might be too much of a consensus on blonde for it.

Most people who are religious / spiritual are peaceful and friendly people, they use their personal beliefs for many different reasons. It in the norm does not effect anyone else or how they chose to live their lives even if it is a different way of thinking.

I small minority of religious extremists who choose to impose their beliefs on other cultures or people should not tarnish the majority of the religious groups that have a positive effect on many people.

Being a christian or catholic is not just about going to mass, saying your prayers or other simple ways in which to identify yourself from others. Its about living your life a certain way, having moral values and treating people with respect. Characterising anyone who is religious is narrowminded and something I expect to come out of Dawkins large mouth.

It's a lazy and frankly annoying argument for people to blame all the woes of the world on religion. Just as religious people who spout off about God does your head in I feel the same about people who continually run down any form of spiritualism or religion. There has always been wars, fighting and disputes over many issues I really don't think religion is at the centre of them all.

A good catholic school and upbringing is far from a disadvantage is today's society, like you I grew up being in a catholic school, I went to mass twice a week, said prayers and found it boring. I made a choice when I was an adult to stop going to church but I am not angry or bitter about how I was brought up.

Acidmouse speaks the truth!

Good post.

FWIW I was brought up as a catholic, I suppose I still am a catholic?

Do I believe in it all? No.

So are you a catholic or not?  Why do you want to be a catholic if you don't believe in it?  Is it like a tribe where you feel you belong?

Attacking Dawkins is irrelevant to the debate.  He is one man, with his opinion.  He's one atheist and doesn't speak for anyone else.

It's like me saying that this bloke is representative of catholics:  http://www.jsonline.com/features/religion/45191277.html - and I'm sure you don't share his views.

I made a reference to Dawkins becasue he spouts the same stuff that bigusdikus does but in a more eliquent manner. I could have said Jo Blogs who talks shat in Leeds market about Catholism, but the reference would have been lost on 99.9% of people on here.

OK.  It's just interesting that you even think about being a catholic if you don't believe in it. 

Is it that simple just to say 'i am not a catholic anymore'?

Why shouldn't it be?  You didn't choose to be a catholic did you?  Does anyone have the right to decide you should be branded as belonging to one religion or another?

I would think so..in fact I can't see why it wouldn't be. Only the Jewish people have a genetic line that "makes you Jewish"...other faiths don't have this.

I was brought up as Greek Orthodox (Christened etc) and still consider myself Greek Orthodox even though I'm more sceptical than I am a believer.

I don't understand why people who don't believe in religions have such a gripe and a need to constantly challenge religion and let everyone know they think its bullshit. It's up to each individual. Thats why I get so fucked off when Jehovas Witnesses come knocking.

Believe in what you want to believe but leave it at that imo. It becomes grating when people constantly force the topic.

Amen! ohh shit I mean yes I agree :)

It makes you Jewish in the sense of the Jewish nationality/ethnicity

There isn't any Religion Gene which determines which faith you're born to.

As has been stated before - this is usually just imposed on you by your parents.

My feelings are in the second post of my blog, that is in my signature.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOk.....

Well, someone asked for different views. I accept that I have a pretty extreme opinion. I am not trying to make an argument out of it.

yeah I think so.  20 years ago I'd have put 'catholic' down as my religion on a census form.  Nowadays i'd put 'no religion' or whatever the option is.  Just because I've been baptised and confirmed, doesn't mean I have to be branded for life.

:( you're no fun

Thanks guys, now I have this going round in my head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_XFMCgeI7c

This is pretty much my view on religion, everyone is entitled to their own view on it, there is very little chance of either side being proved right. The one thing I can't stand is people trying to impose their religious views on others.

So you agree that parents shouldn't impose their religious views on their children then?

Being atheist my view is:

I reckon that as a religious parent you will want your child to follow the same faith as yourself although initially the child will not have a view on the type of religion he/she is brought into but when they are old enough to make a judgement themselves then let them decide and encouraged to make a decision on what gives them the right direction in life,as i see, it is never used in this way as the parental/church pressure of staying in the religion of the parents choosing is too much and no one wants to upset anyone.

now i wonder how everyone would swing if say at the age of  10/11 you had to make a decision on which way you exercise your faith and actively encouraged into this as some sort of youth coming of age decision or if you choose come out of religion altogether.

how many children of religious parents ever actually have a choice i:e We are C of E and so are you,We are  Catholic and so are you,We are Jewish and so are you etc etc the choice just isn't the done thing and would be frowned upon in the different faiths,does money come into it you betcha as the church's always need financing and whats the best way of re financing this? by bringing the next wave of followers into their church.Now that might be a argumentative point of view. but is it wrong?

On the holy wars as someone previously said on here its all about my imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend  ;)

Funny how religion causes so much anger/upset/hurt when atheism doesn't

What primarily seems to motivate atheists isn't rationalism but anger, anger that the world isn't perfect, that someone forced them to go to church as children, that the Bible contains apparent contradictions, that human beings can be hypocrites and commit crimes in the name of faith. The vitriol is extraordinary.

Made me lol.

If we talk about mainstream religions I can't see why atheists get so concerned about kids having a religious persuasion 'imposed' on their kids. Loving church attending parents are unlikely to leave their kids at home while they go to church. Equally they will accept their kids views if at sometime they choose not to go along with them.

I'm much more concerned that millions of kids have a low-life, secular chav persuasion imposed on them - much much harder to grow out of.

Acidmouse says it better and now I've posted twice on a bigusdikus thread. FML

LOL @ secularism meaning low-life chav.  I think you'll actually find that most 'low-life chavs' will be part of a religion in some form or other.

I resent this post. I was brought up low-life secular chav, just like my parents and their parents before them. Enshrined in the values of liberty and freespeech in our country are the rights of secular chavs like me to behave how we like and dress how we like, drive what motors we like and dress them up how we like. Just because we drive cheaper motors than you and wear designer gear you don't happen to like don't mean we're of inferior intellect. I pass on my values to my girlfriends' kids and bring them up proper.

What?

Atheism means the lack of a belief in a specific god or gods.  No more, no less.

This is speculative trash on both sides.

How can you say one way or the other whether 'chavs' are from religious backgrounds or not. Another reason religious debates are stupid.

oh dear - my daughter is in trouble then.  Myself and her father have deliberately chosen to raise her without religion.  We can teach her moral values without the need for religion.  Atheism and humanity are not mutually exclusive.  She has questions about religion, and we answer them factually.  Part of that 'fact' is that god does not exist.

I was basing mine on the percentage of the population who attach themselves to one religion or another - based on the 2001 census.  Most people in the UK are 'religious' (i.e. claim to be part of a religion).  Therefore it makes sense that a cross-section of any part of society will be predominately made up of religious people.  DUCY?

Aren't you making the same generalisation that people who equate religion to extremism make?

Some atheists are vitriolic and angry about their (lack of) belief.

But the majority base their arguments on reason and logic - then shut up about it.

Acid your way off that anger is a motivation. Religion is a laughable concept, it's fundamentally ridiculous. Belief in a "god" is a form of insanity that for some reason is totally acceptable while other forms of insanity are recognised as being very negative and dangerous. There's no anger, i'm happy enough for people to believe what they like, I just don't understand why religion/belief in god gets treated so differently from different forms of madness.

Obviously religion has historically done significant good as well as well as great harm. I just think we should be ready by now to move on from such a fundamentally foolish concept.

I didn't assert that all chavs are secular or that all secular persuaded people are chavs. Instead I chose a specific subset - ie secular chavs, to draw my own subjective comparison with sick parents who force their children to go to Sunday school.  But yr right, it is silly to debate this since my own views are just live and let live. However, I do find atheists getting het up about religion very amusing so find it hard to avoid a little tapping.

Are you a chav ?

Most parents that are considered religious want whats best for their children and faith is only a small part of creating children that are good people. Many parents give them an environment to learn about religion growing up and let them make their own minds up when they are adults.

Funny how religion causes so much anger/upset/hurt when atheism doesn't

Not heard this one before, honest.

I don't know.  'chav' is not a label I like, or use, and I think people attach different meanings to it.  I think we've had a discussion about this before.  As I understand the term, it's a derogatory way of describing working class people.  So yes, I probably am.

Being human is fundamentally insane, so religion, insane as it is, is a pretty valid response. Like Dawkins, I have no real problem with peeps practising it if they want to.
Most people insanely believe that they are fundamentally something more than a bunch of cells assembled into a programmed reproduction machine. Ironically this belief itself is programmed into them by the very genes that sought their own survival. The fact that the ocassional abberation of humanity can manage to perceive otherwise is merely an artefact of the reflective intellect that was born out of the evolutionary arms race.

The definition changes over time.

Originally I'm told it just meant a child.

Interesting.

Why do you believe what you believe (even though you have a scepticism about it)?  Is it because you were born within a certain culture at a certain point in time?  If you'd been born in Israel, what religion would you most likely 'believe' in?  What about Iran?  What about Greece a few thousand years ago?  What about amongst one of the tribes of the amazon?

To paraphrase someone else.  Why should the one religion you had thrust upon you be the correct one?  Why are all the others wrong?  I happen to agree that all the others are wrong as well.  I'd just go one further and say your god doesn't exist either.

However, I do believe that everyone has the right to believe in what they want, but religion shouldn't convey any privileges on anyone.  Privilege for one means that another must suffer.  Faith schools, the power of the 'church' in dictating and influencing policies, the restrictions imposed on the freedom of speech (i.e. blasphemy laws), the persecution of others and the removal of their civil liberties - these are all things that highlight for me what is wrong with religion.  Faith should be a private matter for people to believe what they want.  Religion should not impose itself on people's lives.

I was aiming that at atheists that go out of their way to speak against religion and search through biblical texts to seek out contradictions etc..

Smallisnobis will be well chuffed when he comes back from golf and sees how popular his thread is.

Personally I like the label chav as it sums up a section of our society quite well imo. I don't like class labelling though. However, if we used our traditional class structures I think there would be many upper & middle class chavs & many working class non-c's.

Also Clare, I think yr right this has been discussed before - many deeper thinkers than you or I would struggle to make the  'fact' statement you make that god does not exist.

Personally I'm highly sceptical that there is a god, afterlife etc, but I can't bring myself to make the absolute judgment that this is a fact or tell my kids or anyone elses kids this particualr fact. I'd prefer to say some people believe this, some people believe that, some people believe the other.

I think when Claire says god doesn't exist she is merely summarising the long-winded opinion that she has yet to see any evidence that a god exists, but of course if evidence was made available that suggests a god does in fact exist, she'd look at it in detail and then make a rational decision based on this.

The lack of any evidence at all means that it's looking pretty unlikely that one does exist.  DUCY?

That's not anger or vitriol

That's just good preparation.

If you do want to argue about something, then you should aim to do it well - and to do it well you need to have evidence. (and counter evidence to your opponents arguments obv.)

Good post Kin. If there is no evidence whatsoever for the existence of something it is perfectly reasonable to say it doesn't exist.

ICY, although  this one time, my car started, and it hadn't been starting, and then it did start and I was very relieved, before I could think what I was doing I offered up thanks (no sacrifices) which made me think that perhaps there was a god, but later I wasn't sure.

Some people dont need to see something to believe it exsists, hence why its called faith.

Funny that..

Someone was telling me that they knew there was a god because they walked out of a car crash fairly unscathed.  Two people were killed in this crash.

Belief in a personal god seems a very ego-centric and selfish thing.  I just don't understand it, and see absolutely no evidence to support it.  Same goes for praying.

I wonder why this is.  I presume you'd have no qualms telling children (above a certain age of course) that santa claus, fairies, pixies and the like don't exist, so why not god?

it is a difficult one, because most of Hannah's extended family believe in god, and say things to her about god/heaven etc as if they are fact.  It's much more socially acceptable I think to state 'facts' such as 'there is a god' 'there is an afterlife' than to state as fact that (although much more highly probable) 'there is no god'. 

Rather than argue with the people that are cleverer than me who will not definitively state there is no god, I will instead say I believe there is as much chance of god existing as there is that a man in a red suit is going to come down my chimney on Christmas eve and leave me a load of presents.

Clare, I share your irritation at people dogmatically asserting there is a god, or asserting their religion in a monotheistic way.

By the way, in saying what I said, I made some kind of value judgement about what you have chosen to tell your daughter. I didn't really mean to do that but was keen to express how I have done and would, in the future, do things. I should have spoken more generally. Sorry

Just picking up on this

I don't think parents should 'impose' their views onto their children, whether tdoe younhey be religious views or otherwise.  Guide/teach and hopefully give a good basis for all view points for sure, but NOT impose.

Like Claire, our son isn't being bought up is any set religion. He asks questions and it's scarey some of the shite that the other kids at school tell each other (for example, a muslim told out son that his mother (me) will not go to heaven because I am a Christian and he and his father are muslim - other children have told each other that they will be diseased for life if they touch a bible), all of these things are coming from older siblings apparently. What makes me sad is that some parents have no idea how their strict views are actually creating problems for their children.

Like Claire, we also teach our son about all the different religions. We haven't said though that God does not exist fact, as to me that is for our son to decide whether he wishes to believe in that or not.  I have told him though that some people believe that there is an entity out there and that different people have different names for it God/Allah/Fate etc.     

Some people want to believe in something for which there is no evidence, or evidence to the contrary. Traditionally we call this 'insanity' but these people are uncomfortable with this so create a new term 'faith'.

Some things people have 'faith' in can seemingly be fleshed out in a reasonable way, eg the Resurrection of Jesus (there were witnesses who saw it and wrote about it, many of whom were prepared to die for this belief. "You're saying they imagined this and went to their deaths, what are you a moron?" Other things seem to make no sense whatsoever but are still articles of faith, for example god is three persons in one, each one is god, but there is one god, not three. We cover this by calling it a load of bullshit mystery.

God is different to Santa though. Santa Claus is supposed to come down my chimney and bring me presents on Christmas Eve. He doesn't. FACT. A Santa Clause may exist and may even make toys and ride a sleigh pulled by flying reindeer and one may have a brightly lit red nose but deliver presents to everyone in the world he does not. So that Santa does not exist.
God however can just sit there and do nothing if he/she/it wishes so it's harder to prove he/she/it doesn't exist.

I've told my kids about the Flying Spaghetti Monster, but for some reason, they're a bit sceptical. Random school teachers keep telling them that some beardy weirdy made the universe, and generally they should believe their teachers, but obviously not in this case. I keep telling them we only stick to the earth because of the pressure from the FSM's noodly appendages, but gravity seems to be a more popular "theory". Stuff and nonsense. I've never "seen" gravity, so it can't be true.

He sure will. As a piece of speculative trolling, it's been spectacularly successful. Unintentional trolling, naturally.

Don't anyone DARE bring religion anyone near my diary.

You need to take a balanced approach

Evidence against gravity

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Evidence for

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lol - POTW

:-) :-) vwp

zzZ

I am sorry that you feel I am being vindinctive and unreasonable by wanting factual examples of how there are serious contradictions within religious texts.

I merely gave you the chance to see my views, I foresaw this explosion of viewpoints and opted to try and keep out. I just think that if you're going to take a stance that the minimum you ought to do is some research, upto and including finding relevant examples. Else your basis for argument isn't supported at all.

I don't accept this as clear evidence.

They've clearly just thrown him up in the air.

Your thread's safe - I just thought this one was going a bit stale :D

This made me lol

Yes, my parents never pushed their views on me, I wasn't christened as a child as they thought it was a choice I should make in later life. If i ever have children I hope to do the same.

back from golf, you guys are missing my point... i only see the bad side of religion.for example, circumcision, brutal at any age and surely leaves a scar on any child, not to mention the extra sense you get when making babies, in the name of god, the branch divinian, they burnt to death....... in fact i could go on and on, but religion is evil. i think the catholics are the worst. if you don't know already, some of the things religion is responsible for make me sick, and thats all religions. it makes my blood boil just thinking about it

we're not missing your point bigus - just keeping the debate healthy.

did you know that the catholic church(to cut a long story short) prevent the use of condoms, and stand by as millions of uneducated Africans, contract the aids virus. instead of giving help and advice, they are busy recruiting.Celtic and rangers knock shit out of each other, all in the name of religion. i dare not mention muslims.is it the Mormons that practice polygamy. i could go on, they are all cults, they brain wash in one way or another.scientology, just crazy........excuse me while i take a valium

Religion isn't evil. People are.

They will use any excuse to be evil. Sometimes it's religion.

Poker is evil!! i have witnessed it

He brought Celtic and Rangers into it. GG BD

lol it's like trolling with a shotgun, keep on blasting dik!

Correct.  But the way religion often pervades political and legal systems is to the detriment of society.  It's often those of faith who suffer the most from the power religion carries.

dunno why some people get so annoyed at religion,surely if it gives people comfort from believing then its not all bad its just not for me,

apart from sundays when i get a nice lie in and the Mrs goes to church gets back about 11 and makes my breakfast so maybe there is a god ;)

Lol @ tinyispenisis.

Thanks for enlightening us.

not to mention the amount of choir boys that have been abused, by someone they trust, fecin perv priest's

as abhorrent as this is i would say that the amount of abuse by trusted family members outweighs that of the priests.

so does that make it right?

Of course it does. Do you not agree then?

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It's like Crow on crack.

Other family members usually won't condone it or hide it though, unlike the catholic church, where it is institutionalised and endemic:

http://www.secularism.org.uk/catholicchurchfacesbiggestabusec.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/aug/17/religion.childprotection
http://www.jsonline.com/features/religion/45191277.html
http://www.secularism.org.uk/this-torture-will-continue-until.html

the dumb ass yanks ended ww2, by murdering a million japanese civilians, was that right

can you see were i'm going with this

No they didn't.  The dropping of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki weren't actually necessary to bring an end to the war. But that's another discussion for another place and time.

Of course their use was totally unjustified. Still the only nation to have used a nuclear weapon against another country.

To HELL most probably

what i mean is, saying family members abuse more than priests is a bit off the mark.
maybe i will go to hell,nice of you to say so

LOLOL

and another thing, i have almost lasted a week, without a ban......fingers crossed

please start picking up the controversy. I have saturday a.m. in the sweepstake

once i've made it a week, your stuck with me

The mods celebrate in the secret room



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its tense in the bigus house.... will i survive???????????????????????????????????

wouldn't be so sure about the not hiding it bit tbh.

I am confused as to why so many people that don't believe in God/Religion/Faith force there opinion on people that do.  It also works the other way of course, however in my personal experience more people who are not religious force these beliefs than those who are.

who has the right to say God does or doesn't exist?  nobody can prove it either way, nothing is FACT.  I wish I could put my points across in a more eloquent way, but I cant.

I dont really know what to believe...

its called freedom of speech, enjoy it while it lasts. if i had my way, i'd ban religion, if the pope had his way we'd all be catholics, and so on

I think your a fucking idiot

sorry to be rude, trying to prove a point.

thanks for that, i can take abuse....i'm not religious

Succinct, I'll give you that

I love your posts, they are brilliant. 

I can't take abuse...i'm not religious

make your mind up, bored now........

pick a new topic

I never said I was religious, keep up...

you never made a good point either

ironic

Seek to reject the null hypothesis FTW

Stopped reading thread when it moved to religion.

Is it worth going back? Or just the same old same old.

Me too.

Was going to post my views, but decided that pushing butter up a porcupine's arse with a hot needle would be more productive.

could you post the video.....my imagination doesn't stretch that far

If only I were as wise as you!  I didnt really get involved but still managed to let something I dont even care about rile me!!  Funny the effect religion can have...

Lets talk about hats.  I'm not really a hat person, really wish I could pull them off.  Not sure if its my silly head shape or something like that but hats just dont really suit me.

Discuss...

Not a hat person, can't pull it off? FFS!! you must be an idiot or something.

Repent now, and buy a balaclava.

Its just the size of my head...

You can choose to wear a hat or not if you want - but no one should be made to wear a hat, especially if it stops someone else wearing the one they want to wear.

dont you preach to me about what I can and cant do...

my views on hats are extremist, especially the fez, oh boy, don't get me started

I was going to make a post just like that.

Hi People,
I have been encouraged to join this site by an incident of coincidence! I was in Casino Holland, Rotterdam, and witnessed a dood named Bigus make a very large withdrawal.  About 1 week later I was chewing the fat with a chap in the same casino when he started to tell me about a Forum called Blonde, and this chat right here!!!
Is this the same Bigus who withdrew large 2 weekends ago?

multi acc?

it may be the same person but as bigus only tells us things that happened 6 months ago you'll have to wait until xmas to find out

lol rigged IMO.

absolutely nothing to do with me, you guys may think what you like. i've just come back from the G, and am bewildered as you

sounds like there might be someone larging it up round amsterdam pretending to be you :o

Sorry
Must be the wrong person - 2 bigdix on the poker scene!

More than 2 imo

to be fair, i did have result, however i can't say who this guy is

couldnt see that one coming. no really....

Ok,
I am confused, was it you in Casino Holland or not?
The Bigus from CH was later seen being evicted from Mcdonalds!
Were you in Rotterdam and successful in the casino and then bombed in the burger bar?

yes i did get chucked out of mcdonalds

i am beginning to guess who you are

lol

At least the attempt to fake a multiple personality disorder hints at a more imaginative class of troll.

I POST ALONE, BUT WHAREVER TURNS YOU ON

What did you get thrown out of mcdonalds for?

burgerlary

IS the Post of the Day nominee.

so cheesey

Did you miss the bin again?

And ANOTHER Post of the Day Nominee. This Thread is reaping a golden harvest of retorts.

yep - lots of little nuggets

A Flurry of them in fact

i heard he had a fight with big MAC,,,but he tells a whopper of a story,,..,

i have no idea,just have memories of being escorted off the premises by security

did you manage to shake them off?

that memory will stand you in good stead soon

McDonalds have security?

they have in rotterdam

Rotterdam or anywhere?

What about Liverpool or Rome?

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lol hopkins after a sat night at dtd imo.

a police chase which was on tv, las vegas, skiing in meribel, rotterdam memories,my first book, barred from two pubs and thats just this year.
some of the things i get up to can't be published. i live an action packed life, you gotta be there when it happens. of course i like to share my adventures, so come on guys give me a break. i can understand being slagged off by the odd one, but some of you must have some exciting moments. it seems i have more than most.

if it makes you happy, i will tell you about some of the dark days. there have been many, i choose to put them at the back of my mind
loosing my wife
my business burning down
being sat in court and told i had a 75% chance of going down
the drugs...............
and many more. it seems people thrive on other peoples misfortune. i like to emphasise the funny stuff. maybe your not ready for it

no ta.

I was ordering my burger, i heard a fuss, looked round and saw bigus wafting a wad in a beauties face! don't think the bouncers liked it!

You completely whooshed Wonderdick there Rich.

Another POTD nominee? Afraid so.

Surely not,even i got it

tell us a story!

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