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That is good news! Does the details include an extension and more tables and dealers on a Saturday!

Daily satellites start tonight

Daily Feeders From €2 running throughout the day

8.30pm MAIN €30 1 Rebuy 1 Addon 1 SEAT GTD

http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/satellites/300-deepstack

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Event itself 1-3 Feb, see http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/news.php?id=2307

i see the online sats have dropped down to a 5k starting stack and not 10k like before...is this a change going forward or a mistake as i know 5k was used in the mega sats????   :dontask:

Hi Smurf

Yes we changed to 5k + 5k reload then a 10k add on
We felt this worked well in the mega so extended it to the weekly.

I hope the tourney plays out better with this format and we will monitor the results.

Cheers Nick

cheers....bubbled in tonights and felt it was unfair to those with smaller bankrolls that the add on was twice the starting stack but it must work for you as there were 2 seats created and 150 euro for 3rd .

no doubt i will still have another go later in the week.   ;whistle;

Hi All,

Qualified for Feb's d/s online last night!  Couldn't not after January's was so enjoyable. Question though... xan't see anywhere in the poker client where it shows that I've won a seat.  Do I just turn up and speak to the cash desk?  Do I need to sync my online account and my DTD membership card?

Cheers

Dan (dtm75)

You should get an email asking what day 1 you wish to play within the next 48 hours.

Congrats

Brilliant - I'll stop worrying then. Thanks

any adjustments made to structure/timings?

Yeah the seat won't show in your account but the email will ask you to select a day 1. If it's anything like January I will probably be in contact before the event to ensure players are entered before they arrive to save you queuing!!

The benefits of being a satelitte winner ;)

Congrats Dan! Bagged myself one along with Dan!  :-) Real sweat when we were 3! GL and See you at the tourny!!!!!

Two genuine questions if someone (anyone) can answer for me please....

1)  I am a member of DTD and would like to attempt the sats on line for the FEB £150k. I do not have an online account though. Do I need to set one up or can I just use my membership card somehow to save me going through all my details?

2) Are there any freeze out sats or are they all rebuy/add on ones?

you need to open an online account, set it up and obviously play. www.dtdpoker.com or click a banner on here

all rebuy/add on sats...the week before the event usually has a number of mega sats. Last month had 80 seats GTD in the final week before the event

see http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/satellites/300-deepstack for current satellites

Hey

Is this Tikay? ;)

You will need to set up an online account. Unfortunately the club membership card is just that, it will gain you access to the club only but not online I'm afraid. You will need to download the poker software, create an account and deposit through the cashier.

For the £300 Deepstack the feeder satellites are rebuys however the satellite final is a + 1 Reload which means you are limited to one reload. We do ocassionally run freezeout satellites so they are not all rebuys :)

Cheers Nicola

No.....its knottikay :)

Thank you (and tighty) for your response. I hope to set up an account this w/e then.

Cheers.

***ADDED Online Day 1A***

We have added an ONLINE day 1 for the £300 Deepstack on Thursday 31st January at 7pm (Live Day 1B Fri 1st, Live Day 1C Sat 2nd Feb)

Same chips (30,000) with a 20 min clock (40 min live) as the game is quicker online.

You will play 16 levels on both online & live day 1's and will carry your chips forward to our live day 2 :)

You can re-enter into another day 1, so now you have 3 chances at the £150,000 GTD prize pool!!!

Who's in?

http://www.dusktilldawncasinonottingham.com/news/february-150000-guaranteed-300-deepstack-online-day-1a-special/2307

Hi Nicola

Players winning a satellite seat can use it for Online 1a or Live 1b?

Yes any day 1

Just need to email us if player wants to play it for 1A online

cheers

Players: Pretty interesting especially if you live away from DTD isn't it?

Play the Online and save a lot of expenses by getting direct to Day 2 and if not an immediate cash, near the cash for the Sunday?

Like this alot!

Wow, pretty sick idea, saving on expenses etc. Interesting to see what people chose to play.

We really would like to get to a stage where we bring all day 2 players back Sunday and there all in the money.
See how this month goes with 16 levels on 1a

Comments appreciated

Only comment would be to keep a close eye on the number of hands played.

Pretty sure you could bring the online clock down a touch and still be comparable.

I personally don't fancy playing 5 hours and 20 minutes online + 25 minutes of breaks just to reach a day 2. That's going to be a 1:45am finish on a school night.

If you can knock 5 minutes off the clock and drop it to 4 hours thus finishing at 12:15 with an 8 o'clock start I'm sure it would appeal much more to people who have to be up for work in the morning.

Obviously if it brings the hands down too much then it wouldn't be fair but I can't see you only playing 2x the number of hands online compared to live.

Nice idea and I'll almost definitely join in if the clock gets tweaked at some point.

A bit gutted by this.

Is there no live day 1a I take it then?

Defo - Friday and Saturday live day 1s as usual

I take it all back then!

Does this mean that you can now fire three bullets should you so desire?

Great idea. But booked hotel already .....
So if I make day 2 from Thursday there are 2 rooms for sale at holiday inn

"You can re-enter into another day 1, so now you have 3 chances at the £150,000 GTD prize pool!!!"

that reads as a yes to the question to me

I like this idea a lot and trying to make day 2 players in the cash if that happens further down the line aswell.
Played a lot less this month already but if online day 1a's are something extra going forward I can see myself having a few goes as the year goes on and saving the 100 mile round trip

You can re-enter into any (or both) of the Live Day 1b and Day 1c in the the Club, however in reality, I doubt whether this will happen often, as in the past, only 10-15% of the Friday Day 1a field re-enter into Saturday Day 1b.

We have added an extra level of play into the Day 1's and also changed Sundays starting time to 1pm, we hope this will give players an earlier finish. If players want an even earlier finish, we can take away/reduce the 60 minute clock on the final table (any comments on this would be helpful). We have also reduced the breaks, although we do need to be mindful of our dealers getting enuf rest. This gets us very close to the money for all Day 2 players , starts the final earlier and finishes the event at a more social time for those at work on Monday morning.

The Online Day 1a has been added as an experiment to reduce our regular Deepstack players costs of hotels and travel, which can be sizable if you play every month, we have talked about doing this for the last 12 months but issues with our online poker software have delayed the Online Day 1a trial. We will monitor how the online 20 min clock plays as online hands/hr are significantly higher than live, so this can be adjusted down to 15 mins (or whatever) if that is appropriate. Apart from the clock, the Online Day 1a works exactly the same as the live one, same blinds and antes, same levels, all remaining players after 16 levels take their chip stacks through to Sunday Day 2.

Cheers Aces

Great idea.

Hi Simon,
If we somehow are left with lets say 5k chips after the online game,fail to get rid of them...
There is no way people will travel 200 miles on Sunday with that stack, are we able to forfeit the stack and try again live?

LOVE THIS!

Hi

Unfortunately there is no option to forfeit the online stack even if it is really low, we have to have the same ruling for all players regardless of stack.

Players don't have to attend on day 2 if they don't feel their stack is playable, chips will be in play and get blinded away. In some cases you may have already made the money.

You will play 16 levels online, same as live, so you will know when the end of day 1 is approaching and will have the choice to try and increase your chips before the end of play. If it was playing to top 10% for example this would be harder for you to manage.

Cheers Nicola

thanks Nicola

Liking this a lot.

you'd play the online, and then not the live?

or have a crack at both if you had to?

ballpark, what would making it through 1a and turning up for day 2 already in the cash save you in exes?

Would try both. £80- £100 petrol,Hotel £100 -£130, food -drink £100 ,and car hire £60

It'd still be worth coming to Notts even if you bust first hand.

Assuming it's similar to January there's going to be a £100 reload with a 10k first prize up for grabs starting at 2 o'clock or so.

I agree though that the option to forfeit your stack would be a very good idea. Perhaps leaving it on the table as an anonymous player so as not to disrupt the chip counts would work?

I wouldn't like to see them removed but if it's left there to blind away I really can't see the issue as long as the option's available to everyone.

In direct money terms it saves me around £60-£70 in hotel and food and a small amount of petrol to get me from DTD to wherever I'm staying.
In-directly, it saves me a 'passout' for a day away from home which I can use another time. I can't get away for every deepstack, when I do play one I commit the full weekend and will always play something on Sunday whether I make Day2 or not. (this may be a downside depending on how I run)
Travelling knowing that I've min-cashed would obviously be more appealing than driving down to grind a 10-20BB stack.

Would I try the on-line and still travel for Day 1c on Saturday if i failed? Some months yes, some no. The appeal of 'being there' is huge on big weekends at DTD. I wouldn't have missed the January DS weekend for the world, but the fact remains that for me, the cost of travelling alone is a minimum of £120 in fuel, food and accommodation. So for a 'normal' event the opportunity to make Day2 from the comfort of my sofa on Thursday night and to know that I've covered the cost of the weekend before I set off is a big plus.

Hope the rake and the blackjack take don't go down too much for DTD to keep offering this.

I'm sure they're hoping the increase in online takings will mitigate for any drops in live revenue.

Brilliant idea.

I probably shouldn't, given my skill-level and therefore likeliness to be on the final table, comment on the final table clock, however, wouldn't it always be best to offer the longest feasible clock for a tournament of this nature? The extra three hours at the front-end should facilitate the 60 min clock.

My only other comment would be, for the deepstacks and other 2 day events/festivals, to open the club 60 mins before the tournament starts, to allow the numbers to register/get through the door and take a bathroom break before having to start.

In response to opening the doors earlier, we are currently working on getting more players entered into the live day 1s before we open the doors to reduce the queues, this will help with some players having played online for day 1A, plus we will have all sat winners entered so they wouldn't need to queue, and more DBIs buying in in advance. Hope to have this in practice for Feb's Deepstack, save on queue size :)

hi nicola/simon

realy like the online idia will save me a pass out on school night and about £30 in petroll

question about the sats into this online bit will they be same as they are know and just be a email to get into the online day 1a ??

thanks
garry

psi getting dtd withdraw symptons with this daft weather

Hi Garry

Yes satellites will be the same and if players wish to play online day 1 they can just email me and i will enter them :) Will probably do a big call round and ask players which day they want to play as it may have changed since they won their seat.

Cheers Nicola

i can confirm this works really well. i got to the club for the Jan deepstack when the queues were very long and just smiled and waited for the seat draw having bought in online the day before

When will the next grand prix be?

also what format will it be in?

would you ever do the grand prix where top 10% qualify online and auto cash for the live tourney and start with 15k stacks again?

Brilliant. Expect this to increase field size and work well. Think youll find the twenty mins clock too generous though when analysing hands played. Probs get away with 12-15 mins.

Def agree with this. 0% chance online is only double the speed of live, even on boss.

If I play that weekend it is very unlikely I will online as I am absolute crap online & I think the players chipstacks from 1A will be a lot lower than 1B and 1C. Hopefully proved wrong of course.

Although a few questions

- £200k it made, but only first prize of £44k, should really be £50k? considering and a few players said the same. I think a few too many players was paid out last and structure really is flat. But of course £44k is a nice payday, but when I played the last one I expected at least to be seeing £50k first prize. Will there be any changes to that?

- January and Febuary my busiest months, so may come late. What is the likelyhood of having to wait as I know there was a queue to get in the tournament on Saturday.

A suggestion...

Played 1B last time and I was there all day, but it was a nightmare to get food. People waited above 1 hour for it and I 100% understand that the demand was due to a lot higher numbers turning up, but I was starving all day & when I got food it was cold :(. I would advise cutting a few breaks (although mentioned) & adding 45-1hr break somewhere along the lines so people can eat. Also, can you guys cut the silly break that is just before the last level?

Another suggestion...

There are mega-sats around & now an online day 1a, would both of these not run well with a Chipleader running with it? Personally hate having one online tournament up when I do play online, so having Chipleaders, sats and online 1a may run together?

Good luck with this, hopefully supporting!!

20 min clock online sounds good get a lot more hands per hour online than live anything less no good

Hopping to play online

If the online gets cut to 12-15 minutes I may well play. 20 minutes is way too long. It's going to be nearly 6 hours of online play to not even reach the cash.

Other than the odd WCOOP or similar I think that's pretty much unheard of online. Correct me if I'm wrong.

You are right about the clock, but pretty sure 6 hours is a standard online MTT length if you final.....................

I think the main difference is that the last level will be a titanic shove fest, as everyone is going to want to "get to day 2 with a stack" rather than "make good use of this hotel ive booked", but thats not necessarily a bad thing IMO - nice dynamic

6 hours isn't to final though is it. It's just to get you to level 17 which probably won't even be in the money.

Could be interesting for people like myself who live close by. Figuring out calling ranges could be fun.

Also consider a situation like........

Last hand of the night. You have 2x average and are rolled to buy in on all 3 day 1's. You've also booked and paid for a hotel. Someone with 1 chip less than you goes all in and you have AA.

Wwyd?

Well it's an easy snap as we are here to win, but more interestingly if 5 people with 15bbs get it in and you have 30bbs

i understand what you mean but this isnot a normall thing its a day 1 to a deepstack touniment where playing live s normally 12 hours so 6 online is short but will prob get the same amount of hands as would playing live LEAVE CLOCK ALOAN

This is a very good idea for those of us some way away.  I can't play this month, but will give it a go as sson as I can.

I think 15 minute blinds feels about equal to 40 minutes live and 20 seems too much.  

But can you not do a comparision on number of hands played online in 15 minutes in a typical MTT vs number of hands played in 40 minutes in the club?  I guess the online bit is easy, but the club bit more difficult, though I would be surprised if nobody has ever counted.

I think the number of hands in both should be the same.  Otherwise we could get 5% of the field through from 1A, but all with double the average stack.  

Having said all this, then you could just give it a go and see how many make it through.

Not really difficult to count the number of hands live.

Buy half a dozen of these things:

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Put them with the seating cards on 6 tables in any comp. Tell the dealers that every time the button hits seat 1 to press the little button on the top of the little machine.

Do a little bit of maths.

Job done.

The last time I counted it was around 27-30 hands per hour at DTD, an orbit was taking just under 20 mins, but that was in the early levels

We have done the analysis and come to the opinion 15 is not quite enough 20 is about right.

We track all the hands per hour on the shuffle machines so we have pretty good information.

After the first one on-line we can amend the length of the levels if need be.

Hopefully the on-line 1A will be well received and we can improve it in the following months.

Thanks for all the positive feedback - keep it coming

Given you guys are all fairly shrewd I assume this information was adjusted for not using shuffle machines?

<3 Guy

he has morphed into Aaron this week. Everyone hating on his pha and making stupid comments :)

100% recommend on line buy in. Those that suggest opening an hour early to accommodate queues are kinda forgetting that it wont stop the majority from still turning up 15 minutes before the off.

I hope Tighty will be doing live updates for all three day ones then?! ;)

er....

not so easy to do the online one.

I reckon I can publish the overnights from 1a once its out of the lobby and before 1b, real names not screen names

I suggested the same thing!!

Less walking around that's for sure...bit Tighty wouldnt be able to get his camera out...updates wouldnt be the same!

Although screenshots of hands would save all that note taking ;)

Wonder if Rob can confirm i gave him this idea in san remo day 1 :)

Serious question mate - with the general standard on DTD online donyoubthink it gives a massive advantage to the like of you, Middy, Marc etc, more than live or do you think expected Ev is same? Obv game will play v diff to high stakes regs on stars.

i dont think the online day will be that soft. All the live value will probs only play the live days. Its just a lot less hassle than travelling down for day 1. Id think my Ev would be better if i played the live day, but im just born lazy.

Possible numpty question:

I duly got an email to select which day 1 to play after my sat win in early Jan. I chose day 1b (Sat as it was then), but the day 1a special means Day 1b is actually day 1c.  Should I contact Nichola et al to doubly confirm I can only play Saturday, or will it all be fine and not to worry.

Reading that back, I look like an overly worrying eejit. Hey ho. Apologies

Hey

It's a good question as we did originally give you the choice between 2 day 1's and there obviously now 3.

I was planning on contacting all players to confirm, which I will do next week as it's nearer the event and more players will have decided :)

If you pm your real name I can put 1C next to your name and will save me a phone call ;)

Cheers Nicola

richard Whiteley (rick117) did the same thing when he won a seat in the early sat. He told you 1b before it was 3 starting days too. He defo wants to play 1c the Saturday Ty .

***£300 DEEPSTACK MEGA SATS***

Next Week Monday - Friday

100 seats GTD in total!!

Mon - Thurs - 20 seats GTD a night online
Friday - 10 seats GTD online & 10 seats GTD live!

Same price as the regular €2 Feeders and €30 1R1A satellites :)

Full details - http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/news/300-deepstack-mega-sats/2311

Cheers Nicola

Perfect buy-in for these mega-satellites imo.  Hopefully they'll all meet the guarantee like last month.

good stuff

Should be extremely popular!

please confirm that a player can win more than one satalite for the next 150,000 gt at dtd....then use the secound ticket for a secound chance on another day one
thank you
also if you win three have them as credit for dtd satalites in general

Hi china mug

Correct as its a re entry you can win more than one seat and use for re entry

If you want to play the online day 1 on Thursday we need plenty of notice to enter the players before the start.

Any unused seats have a 6 week expiry date so will be good for the following month.

Good luck

Nick

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So, this week then

Thursday night sees the Online Day1a of the £150,000 GTD Deepstack

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The schedule for the Deepstack itself is:

Play Online Day 1a Online
Fri 1st February    2:00 pm    Day 1b    £150,000 Guaranteed
Sat 2nd February    2:00 pm    Day 1c    £150,000 Guaranteed
Sun 3rd February    1:00 pm    Day 2    £150,000 Guaranteed

Re-entry into the next Day1 is available
Late reg daily for the Live Day 1b/1c is until 7.15pm
40 minute clock, 60 min clock for the final
30,000 chips
£300+36 buy in, live and Online


Mega Sats (entry into either the Online or Live Day 1 if you win a seat) begin tonight

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Online 8.30pm Mon-Thurs €30 with 1 rebuy and 1 add-on 20 seats GTD per night
Online 8.30pm Fri €30 with 1 rebuy and 1 add-on 10 seats GTD

Live 8pm Fri £20 rebuy 10 seats GTD

is there just one day 1 online?,

Also, if I won 3 feeder tourneys in one day, can these be used for the re-entry into the final that night?

Thanks

One day 1 Online yes. Thursday night

Nicola to answer the question about feeders

If you win more than 1 feeder in 1 day you will win cash for duplicate seats so you can use the cash for rebuys in the satellite :)

Sorry this is incorrect, we have changed it so that players can only win 1 feeder into each nightly final.

Can't see any feeders scheduled?

Feeders show 1 hour before they run, so the 2pm feeder has just popped in the lobby :)

€2 Rebuy Feeders run at 2pm, 3pm, 4pm, 5pm, 6pm, 6.30pm, 7pm
€7 FO Feeders run at 7.30pm, 8pm
€2 Rebuy Feeders run into the next night at 8.30pm, 9pm, 9.30pm, 10pm

Lots of chances to win your seat into the nightly final.

Last month we made roughly 25 seats a night :)

Good Luck all Blondes.

Nicola

is it 5k +5k and 10k addon

30E each?

Yes this is what it was last time.    One Issue though, if you dont take a re-buy you dont get the option of taking the add on.

Last final I played, I didnt want the rebuy so clicked the auto add on, but when I clicked no to re-buy, the add on option has gone.

Why is this Nicola? 

Thanks for the info on the feeders.

Hi Nicola, just won one of the feeders into tonight's final, and it wont let me enter another feeder as I'm already the final.  Is this right?

Thanks

Hi LOJ

Yes sorry if you have won a feeder into the final, it will stop you playing another feeder. Sorry I didn't realise that this had been changed permanantly. I have edited my previous post to reflect this for others reading.

I will also check why you are not given the option to add-on if you haven't taken the rebuy. Again this shouldn't be the case, will check for you.

Cheers Nicola

Has a final decision been made on structure levels etc re the Thursday online day1?

Yes it's the same as when we announced. 30,000 chips, 20 min clock, same blind structure as live. You will play 16 levels both online and live and carry chips through to day 2 :)

 the auto add on (and auto re buy ) needs to be selected on the table your on
so if you select auto add on and then move table you need to select it again

think that maybe the issue

I have also confirmed with the team that you should be able to take an add-on even if you havent taken the rebuy, if the auto add-on disappears please do it manually. If the option is not available please send me a screen shot and i will have it investigated for you :) nicola@dusktilldawnpoker.com.

Hope this is ok for tonight for you, maybe don't select the auto add-on for now.

Cheers Nicola

I cant find Thursdays Day 1a in the lobby - is it yet to be added or am I being a clwon, probably later

It will appear 24 hours before so not there yet. So Wednesday night it will show :)

Thanks Nicola - and if I luckbox a sat tonight I just message you yeah and say 1a on line?

I could be being stupid here but I cant see thursdays day 1 in the main lobby.

Ive never regd on line before, is there a secret passage to the registration room?

read two post above yours

how tough will online be?

will all the pros and recs who live far away just play online cos its alot easier

Cheers paul!

As discussed, we will trial the 20 min clock online and get feedback/opinions/look at results, the general consensus among online MTT players is that 15 mins would be the most similar to 40 mins online, however the more 'live' orientated players have asked us to keep it at 20 mins, so lets see how it goes.

We don't have a clue how tough online day 1a will be compared to live day 1b and day 1c, it's an experiment to help players who live further away from DTD to reduce their expenses and be able to afford to play our Deepstack more regularly, whether that be live or online. From players I have spoken to so far, most seem to say they will play online when they could not make Fri or Sat due to prior arrangements with kids/family etc. A lot of the online MTT pros are busy on Sundays with all the online comps so these players rarely play our Deepstack anyway, so i'm expecting a mix of players.

Cheers Aces  

I love this idea and really hope it works.

Those online MTT pro's who are coming fresh to playing on the Boss Network may lose some of their edge in the transition from their regular sites...

Hi Claypole, yes just let me know as soon as you win your seat and i'll get you entered into the online Day 1A :)

If they gave 90 seats away last night he may have just sneaked in  ;)

how long is late reg for tonight's mega sat?

add on was working lastnight without having the rebuy i allways click auto add on and if get moved table press it again

It's til 9.45pm then Rebuy & add on at 9.55pm :)

Hi guys

You've got a lot of competition in the MEGA SAT Tonight, can you beat numpty?

Whatever happened to Numpty's brother?

I hope he's not playing on Robs account, there'll be few spitting their dummy's out. Lol

Numpty and his brother don't always see eye to eye (poker related differences) ;) Rob's mum has Neo :)

Numpty has his own account, he's a clever dog :)

Hi all im new to blonde poker forum.. i qualified online last week in a little feeder then onto the £30 then did that now how do i find out if my name got through i want to play the saturday

Hi .they will send you email to confirm what day you want

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Who is intending to play the Online 1a tomorrow night?

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Who has qualified from the Online megas? Or still attempting to?!

Online 8.30pm Mon-Thurs €30 with 1 rebuy and 1 add-on 20 seats GTD per night
Online 8.30pm Fri €30 with 1 rebuy and 1 add-on 10 seats GTD

Live 8pm Fri £20 rebuy 10 seats GTD

In and playing Day 1a from the comfort of my sofa tomorrow night.

Will bring biscuits if you can get the doomswitch disabled for me

I'll donate 10% of any winnings to charity if they remove my doom switch!

But yes, I too will be playing day 1 in my office

In (via mega sat on Monday), playing day 1c Saturday.

Dithering...

sn??
mine is pretty obvious - I was a very early sign up to DTD online

does anyone know if it is possible to grind stars on an ipad if i make day 2 on sunday?

Yes it is, people do....

through the wireless connection or just if your ipad is 3g? and also, how many runners on average make it to day 2 plz?

Tough question this being the first time with three days one.

~150 would be my guesstimate.

through the DTD Public wireless

Note though, the final will be on the feature (live streamed, hole cards etc) and phones and devices are not allowed during that play so you'd have to factor that in to your thoughts

As to how many make it, tricky to say this time. Normally 15-20% of the combined (live) day one field start day 2 after 15 day 1 levels.

this time we need to factor in an online day 1, and 16 day one levels

the hope is that day 2 starts with everyone in the cash

Lets plug in 500-600 total runners, that suggests 60-70 coming back


(sorry for the waffle)

ok gonna give the online day1 a shot, gl all

On a very serious note, this is surely impossible unless artificially generated? I dont like that idea at all. It removes teh cash bubble which is obvioulsy a significant part of any tourney

pls advise

(in b4 anyone tells me not to worry it wont concern me)

i cant find the tourney on the lobby?

I am sure there's no intention to artificially generate. I think its an "aspiration" under a strategy of introducing an Online 1a that you could play that, and arrive at the club on Sunday knowing you'd cashed. Nice message for players, I think

Until we see it in operation though, we won't know.  

24 hours beforehand

try tonight please

FWIW - the point i am making is that in a multi day 1 scenario, it is impossible to have people in the money at the start of day 2, due to different runners, not knowing who to pay etc etc

There was a WSOP event 2 years ago where there was much panic on the last day 1 as they thought they were doing to break to money due to unforseen action, I think they missed doing it by 6 players or something very close!

Yeh me and Mr Ho also binked seats monday, i'm playing friday 1b think Mr Ho is playing from the comfort of his settee.

To be clear:

Each Day 1 plays 16 levels, both live and online.

Everyone is not in the money on Day 2 but we will be closer than just playing 14-15 levels. The bubble will be on Sunday Day 2, I think around 18 levels would need to be played to get everyone in the money, we are playing 16.

Cheers Aces

If you haven't already received the email from us (might be in your junk mail) then we will be contacting you again today, probably by phone. You can drop me a PM or email with your details and day 1 request nicola@dusktilldawnpoker.com.

Also a note to anyone else who has qualified/qualifys tonight if you let me know asap which day 1 you wish to play, I will need time to manually enter you into online 1A with your seat :)

Duplicate seats can be used for re-entry into any future day 1 whether you decide to play online or live, or transferred to next month :)

Cheers Nicola

Hi Guys

Just to confirm Day 1A will appear in the lobby tonight at 7pm :)

Please feel free to register in advance tonight so we can get an idea of numbers, we have no idea how popular it will be and guess many players will register at the last minute.

Good Luck :)

Cheers Nicola

Can u play Dtd online on a iPad?

Only via some form of remote access to a proper computer. I managed it using logmein but it's not ideal

Especially as the satellites are tough enough already! ;)

We don't recommend players do that as we cannot support any activity via this method.

Sorry Paul we don't currently have iPad software.

Deffo wouldn't be putting in much volume on the wi-fi. With a full club its extremely unreliable. Use 3g or don't at all imo.

Got a seat already :)

in the lobby now 

Nicola when will sat qualifiers show ?

We have sent the list and they will enter them tonight :)

Will be playing online leg tomorrow, any guesses on runners? Or completely unknown until start time

We have at least 24 online satellite winners, plus up to 20 from tonight's MEGA SAT, I predict we will start with about 50/60 runners with about 20 late registrations.

If you register early it will enoucrage others to play it...the more in the more appealing it will be to others :)

Registration is now OPEN for Day 1A ONLINE :)

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Reach the Live Final from your sofa :) PLUS Last chance to qualify into the online Day 1A tonight at 8.30pm (LR 9.45pm) for just €30 :)

Register now... I have a bet with Rob on runners, I guessed more so help me win the bet by registering nice and early ;)

Good Luck guys!

Completely unknown, but 24 satellite qualifiers have chosen Day 1a online and I think there are around 50 satellite qualifiers yet to decide which day to play, so its showing "some" potential, but very early days for this trial. If put on the spot, I would guess 75-100 runners but I am really guessing.

Cheers Aces

Hi Nicola,

I was wondering about this when i played the sat on Monday, i didnt use the rebuy but clicked the add-on box, but instead it gave me  a rebuy (5k chips), wasnt sure if it was me but just had the add-on after taking the rebuy in tonights sat and it was a 10k add on, so looks like if you havent taken the rebuy then you cant get the add on as it automatically gives you the rebuy first.

Thanks
R.

really think the sat would benefit from the add on being after 1 hour. Already 40 people are out when it comes to the add on period thatch probably a potential of 20 more add ons at least if it is after 1 hour and not 1 and a half hours! just seems to long and everyone is pretty short after 1 and a half hourse. Just my two penneth :)

Really excited about playing this day 1a online today! Lots of online regs and heros have already registered! Looking forward to a thrilling 6 hours..... One thing which still bugs me is that if you have less thn 5 bigs at the end of play, you cant forfiet your chips to join the next day 1 :-( But Hey, I guess thats how it works!

registration is now OPEN for Day 1A ONLINE of the £150,000 DTD February Deepstack

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Reach the Live Day Two from your sofa

 

7pm start

16 levels, 20 minutes each

30,000 chips, same blind levels as the live Day Ones.

 
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Based on some of the above posts, the rebuy seems a bit unpredictable

In my case, I had auto rebuy and add on boxes ticked. I had expected the rebuy to trigger when I bust but 5k chips just added randomly after about 10 minutes play!

Fortunately this stack never busted before the add on but presumably if it had done, that was my 1 rebuy used up? 

Conversely in the feeders I was only able to rebuy 1500 chips when bust but saw many others at the table reloading with 3000 chips.

Could you clarify the how the rebuy process is supposed to work please?

Looking forward to see the numbers playing tonight. Hope its nearer 100 than 60 runners with a 20 min clock and 16 levels.  There could be some huge stacks and only a handful going through to Sunday. Gl all especially Vinodh

Cheers Jason! Should be a great  game! You playing?

not online mate but should be there either Friday or Saturday.

We have to have the same rules as the live day 1's so unfortunately you can't forfeit a small stack. However as you know you are playing 16 levels you will know you are getting to the end of the day 1 and can make a decision about how to play your stack :)

The feeders are unlimited rebuys and therefore you can only rebuy when you are below starting stack and it's unlimited.

The satellite finals are 1 Reload, 1 add-on and therefore you can take the reload at any time regardless of your stack, therefore if you tick auto rebuy it won't wait for you to fall below starting stack.

Hi Guys


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Is there any late reg tonight?

Yes Late Reg is open til 9.30pm :)

Boom

Seems really good idea online day 1a hope u do this every month as I can't make this one

only 55 players regged thought there would be more!  its gonna be tough imo

61 now and probs make 75+ with late reg till 9.30

You playing David?  Best of luck if you are.

It was a no-brainer for me Dan. Thanks, see you Sunday ;)

70 now

76 runners  first break 3 out so far

Top predicting!!

Quite possibly the most tilting poker experience of my life, I will try to spin my pennies up to some amount and will never play on the client again.

How there are no time banks for an online $500

Thinking is -EV

I know....I told Rob 90 so have 5 to go :)

Great value in the MEGA SAT btw!!!

Grab a re-entry seat or seat for next month if you already have a seat....only 89 in with 20 seats GTD :O

Good luck everyone!

the clock doesnt stop when we are on our break

think thats why  levels are 20 20 25  and repeat

ah ty

There were 85 runners in the end

Plenty of blondes in I see, if you make it through please post your chipcount

I will put up the final chip counts, real names, when I get a list tomorrow from Nicola

We decided not to post up the list with DTD online names in case some want them to remain private

i am out gl all left in

what about now? levels 500 1000 is 25 600 1200 is 20 then next level is back to 25 again the pattern broke

never seen as many fish in my whole life

Did you need the toilet mid hand?

this will finish with about 6 through

Specman has 350,000 at 800-16000!

yeh and hes a huge station

anyone wanna lay a price 1 player goes through?

feel and playing like shite :(

lol

make that 480k

4x fold from Specman - love it....I think the spread Trigg is 2.6-3

Gutted i couldnt play as plans on Sunday

this is crazy lol, underestimated the amount of hands you see online compared to live and overestimated turnout a little gonna be fun anyhow

2.5/5k last level right?

yes

An extra level for Day 1's this month

 

Wow - specman has blown up hard....

Liam batley is now SPecman best mate!

Specman dusted off beatutfully

omg lol.

Liam Batey raises pre, called by specman on the button

Liam 250k, specman 350k at 1,500-3,000

7-9-Q

Liam bet, call

Q

Liam bet, raised, call

7

Liam bets half pot

Specman raises

Liam shoves

Specman calls off with 8-8

Liam A-Q to go over 550,000.......

That was, well - lets say interesting.......nice one Mr Bately, mbsfn

so two more levels left then?

sigh

Will the top stacks be posted on here after it finishes? Will be interesting to see how many actually remain...

tomorrow yes

think about 6/8 will make it with the biggest stack around 800k

How many usually get through a live Day 1 of the deepstack? With the additional level(s) fewer will be going through from the live ones as well.

Is it looking likely that a very low number will be going through from tonight?

short handed play here is brutal

15% normally thru after 15 levels live. Looks lower from this. Obv the clock can be altered in future months

But surely any railers at the end tonight would be able to match online with the real names tomorrow ?

Yes, perhaps I underestimated that people would rail til late!

are you playing tomorrow or saturday Guy?

What time do we finish tomorrow now then?

contemplating tomorow mate

yeah its pretty redic now

ppl just jamming just hope i get aces

dont fancy going to dtd with 20 bb

Do they still have chip races?

Wonder what the 1 denomination chips will look like

Kid from Leeds went back with 3bb everyone was teasing him,  he spun it up and came 9th

meh played like a twat after the break

wanted to spin it up then get 15 bb with jj vs kj and aa

3 am iirc

Fml

boom just lost 600k pot 2nd set vs top set

didnt realise that was you trigg. UL mate

how they gonna work out if i cashed or not?

Sick mate, saw it, was looking forward to giving a lesson on Sunday in heads up play ;)

was to one of my mates so its all good, sign for sundays online

Hope they keep this from now on, But obv sort the levels out a bit.

Is it Adam Vinson?

ben

from what ive seen, stringbet, lb44 and madone only ones going through with a chance

This was a pretty good idea, would definitely play again,

Was mentally preparing to drive Glasgow-Nottingham to grind a sub 20bb stack, but unfortunately could not hold in the last hour

Although the Boss Network software was certainly 'interesting'

Finally made the list

ahahhah this is brilliant, whats going on

lol

Lol brutal, just an observer telling them they have a screenshot.... LOL

refund plz

this is so ludicrous, what if 3 tables were left

Yeh cant believe they cant pause the comp manually?

I have 312k anyway. Won't take any less!

Tighty can you clarify?

these hands must count imo

gillis

when you clicked from 10k to 19k (4bet) i folded AK bedi boy

Good fold obv Trigger

Can anyone post official chip counts here so I can go bed?

i woulda ripped on you for rofls, just gotta win more than first place on sunday, make me feel better

lol Ben Vinson open jams 780k

GL buddy

hes spoken to trumper

probs a bad call with J4

so how they gonna work out whose in the money? and obv no-one in the live segment gonna play 5/6 handed

NVM that when they see Ben has 800k might put off everyone else from turning up

really having 2nd thoughts now

results orientated imo

ill take 20s on him winning it now for £200 if anyone laying?

No one's laying that

Were you stringbet George? Who was that guy called every one of my open's, making it perfect for you to 3 bet me a treat haha sigh. wp see ya sunday

Yeh was me mate :) GL see you then

So, someone has got 800k?

Yeah but it's only Ben Vinson haha :|

Guess I am driving down with Specman Saturday now. That's if he dares show his face. :)

i looked on the online game and it shows three players all sat out.. one with 2.2 m one with 97k and another with something else... are these the three making the final day?

the comp was meant to stop after level 16. Tom from Dtd did come on and say they were taking a screenshot of the chip counts. Of course no one believed it was Tom especially paranoid Batey and no believer Bedi :)

Ha! Is that Richard? Explains alot

hi guys, comments are;

- very happy with 85 runners for the first time we have tried this format

- 9.4% of the field got through, I expected 10% ish so no massive surprise there - we played an extra level plus players can re-enter so are more inclined to gamble - just the same as they do on Fridays. I expect c13% friday and c17%% sat, that 16th level should get rid of an extra 3% of the field, so ideally an overall average of 15% into Day 2 (75 out of 500). There is always a higher % get thru on Sat as most of our satellite qualifiers choose Sat and they plays a little more conservatively, plus players cannot re-enter so there is less gambling

- I don't read anything into Ben's chip leader stack, you don't get bigger chips because its online cards, we have had players get these size of stacks live, especially with Ben's conservative style of play :) You only have to look a the Chip Leader results to know its rarely the big stacks that pick up the big money so i don't think this should deter anyone from playing friday or saturday

- we have recorded various data for all levels/hands/players left etc etc that we will compare to this weekend's live Day 1's, so any adjustments to future online day 1's can be made to get them as close to live as poss

- yes, agree the software should pause after 16 levels but its been repeatedly marketed (and marketed again) that we are playing 16 levels online, but of course, we need to try and find away of stopping the comp (same as a live day 1!)

- we play 16 levels on fri and sat, should finish around 2am

- for those of you that made Sunday day 2, please remember its a 1pm re-start as part of the aim to get an earlier finish for travelling players

thanks for the support guys, when we try new stuff its risky, and we can't do it without your support and feedback

Overall: I think this online day 1 has some legs, everyone has worked hard at DTD to get it off the ground, so lets see how the rest of the weekend goes, it would be nice to keep getting 500+ runners each month

cheers rob

ps. You can expect a few very important announcements about DTD in next 14 days, I will post them on here first of course

100% its got some legs rob. A slight difference obv being that tonight we played periods 5 and 6 handed which the live guys won't but when online numbers grow this wont be a problem. 12 minute levels (esp) with no timebank will mirror 40 min levels perfectly imo.
maybe have a sat online to the £300 that you must play day1a)? to increase day1a  players? great innovation think we touched on it in san remo day 1 iirc

Think it's a really good idea, I only get to DTD a couple times a year but will be looking to play this a lot more regularly.

yes Richard Norfolk, loves the game and will be re entering.
Richard Whiteley wants it pointing out that he is Rick117.

The online experiment was definatley a success and should stay IMO. You 100% need to reduce the clock but you probably know this. It is not just the amount of hands played but also the way people play online. You are always gonna have carnage when people get to half a million in chips and think "fuck it, that's not enough. I'm just gonna roll my face on the key board for 3 hands and see if I can get to a million".

All eyes will be on Ben with the 700k best of luck to him. He is a class act

If you bust online day 1a and you renter today for day 1b and again you bust, can you still renter day 1c?

Live Update of 1b from 2pm

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Hi ALL

Still working on the full player list but we are really happy with 85

unconfirmed results are:

madone05   730834      Ben   Vinson
LB44   501660      Liam   Batey
stringbet   312897      Rupinder   Bedi
Eclipse001   281098      Philip   Hughes
vans2   254715      Fangzhou   Liu
cairnsy949   230425      John   Cairns
josephic   162262      Joseph   Icarangal
degsy   76109      Wahid   Patel


See you all today for day1B

It's deffo got legs Rob and a great I initiative. Wish I could have played. I also agree with you, at the time I thought altho it looked like it was cutting up quick, I didn't think it'll be a million miles of a smaller field day one at club.

Good innovation and hope it stays

I don't think these stacks are particularly crazy to be fair.

Last month someone had 400k but with a level less to do it in.  Whilst I'd expect Ben to stay at the top I wouldn't be surprised to see a different name in 2nd spot when we get to day 2.

All it takes is a big flip somewhere or an AA vs KK cooler and you've got another monster stack. Only reason you'll get bigger stacks online is they've had more hands to find a cold deck.

Hopefully DTD will monitor the hands on a few tables tonight and tomorrow to see how they compare. I'm pretty sure they can drop it to 15 mins for the next online one.

Bens stack did involve a significant hand vs trigg with JJJ > 888. Im sure someone has had 700k before now in a deep stack

 Ben Vinson  is a sicko with an ok stack never mind 700k  can only see won outcome this weekend!! well played ben enjoy the 44k

i played last night did not trouble scorer but would definately play again
was happy with levels and expected only 10 % or less to get through players including me flick it in more easly on  line

only thing i would change would be for some one from dtd to post screen shot on here when level 16 complete so its clear game over

i railed last night and could of posted but think it should be done by some one from dtd

Agree h. Also is it possible to have a time bank?

+1

This was a pretty massive inconvenience and definitely seemed a bit ridiculous given the tournament buyin

I played too & thought  the structure was good. No great surprises really. It did seem that players were busting thick and fast from about level 12 but guess that is more to do with online styles and players more prepared to take 10-15 bb flips than they would be Live. (Me included)

Agree that a 15 min clock would probably be closer to 40 mins live.

One thing I did notice though was that  at the breaks the clock wasn't paused so every third level was effectively 15 or 16 minutes. Not a bad thing, just an observation FWIW.

Will definitely play it next month if it runs.

clock not stopping at breaks  was taken care of by levels i think

OK thanks. Didn't notice the 25 min levels

Report on last night at http://www.dusktilldawnpoker.com/blog.php?profile=7&id=397

What's green label mean bedi? Fish

player notes on software

Great idea and will play every month 100% just need a time bank!  Also keep the blind levels as they are in my opinion!

Yes finally some poker recognition !

definitely possible on the network

Hi Guys

Full list of day 1A players, already seen a few re-enter today :)

Adam   Forsyth
ALAN   TADDEI
alan   gray
Alan   Brown
Amjid   Parveez
Andrew   Hulme
Andrew   Sherwood
ben   vinson
Ben   Raven
ceri   rees
CHRIS   CANCELLIERE
Chris   Sly
Christopher   Goodson
Daniel   Hide
Danish   Gandhi
david   amos
David   Penly
david   maudlin
David   Harris
david   mccoy
David   L'Honore
David   Gould
Derek   Kavanagh
Dewi   James
Dinarte   Araujo De Sousa
Dominic   Smith
Fangzhou   Liu
Frank   Jones
Ganesh   Jayaraman
gary   jones
George   Clyde-Smith
Guy   Johnson
hugh   black
james   buckley
James   Clarke
James   Moult
Jason   Barton
Jiri   Sladkovsky
john   charalambous
john   bousfield
john   cairns
John   Duggan
Jon   Hayes
Jonathan   Rees
Joseph   Icarangal
KEVIN   WIBBERLEY
Kyriacos   dionysiou
lee arun   dixon
Liam   Batey
mark   wates
mark   james
mark   lane
Mike   Jones
Nicholas Tony   Fellone
Paul   Garnham
Paul   HO
Paul   Jenkinson
peter   haslam
Philip   Hughes
RAMAZANALI   ABBASSI
Richard   Turner
Richard   Garner
richard   norfolk
Richard   Blacklock
Richard   Sheils
Richard   Pearson
Richard   Trigg
Ross   Johnson
Rupinder   Bedi
Sarbjit   Kular
Sean   Robertson
Simon   Higgins
Simon   Hemsworth
Stephen   Bantick
Stephen   Ayres
Steve   Vladar
stuart   fox
Thomas   Mccready
Thomas   High
Tim   Slater
Tom   Langley
Tonino   Montesanti
trevor   pearson
Waheed   Ashraf
Wahid   Patel

Think the stacks aren't as rediculous as people made out.

Think Matt nailed it on the head, we just saw so many more hands which gave us more opportunity to cooler somebody.

I had 230k and was cruising and got it in with nut house and got paid off to go to 550k and Ben got too set over middle set for 350k stacks. That could easily happen live, we just saw 10x more hands for this to happen.

Improvements for next time imo:

1. Time bank
2. 15 min clock
3. Clock to stop at level 16
4. An animation of TD Ryan chipping up every few levels.

All in all, an awesome idea. I'm far better online than live, so maybe this is my ticket into day 2's at DTD haha

Guys

Please can you advise me;

We measured the hands per level for Thursdays day 1a online and Fridays day 1b live:

Online day 1a - 18.33 hands per 20 min level (54.99 per hour)

Live day 1b - 16.14 hands per 40 min level (24.21per hour)

The live numbers are in line with previous results of MTT hands per hour (24 average per hour) that we have done before with DTD dealers after they have completed their training period.

This means in terms of hands per hour a 40 min clock at DTD is equal to a 17.6 min clock online. Therefore, the online players who made it through were dealt 35 hands more over the 16 levels than the live players. Having a time bank online would make the hands per level even closer. 35 hands is a significant amount, it's over 2 more levels of hands seen by the online players, however, this is not as big a differential that some knowledgable online players have been quoting on here.

So, please can any online MTT specialists advise why the general consensus is that a 40 min live level is equivent to a 12-15 online level - not a 17.4 min online level? On the results of our data,  when converting a live clock to an online equivalent, I should be multiplying the live clock by 0.44 ie. 24.21 live hands/hr divided by 54.99 online hands/hr.

It's really important we get this right if we are to do this again so advice is really appreciated.

Thanks, Rob

If live players made decisions in the same time period as online the numbers would be closer.

The maths seems fine, assuming you are looking to play the same amount of hands the only figure that needs working out is the amount of hands on average per level. It seems online is approx 1 min a hand and live 2.5 min a hand so anywhere at 16-18 min levels should equal it out - you'll never get it spot on.
With the  Grand Prix having 30 min live levels i would calculate it as a 12 min online clock.

1pm start tomorrow right?

gl Trigg

When you look at the data and chip stacks from day 1a and 1b there is no big difference, so dropping the online clock to 17-18 mins should sort it.

I never expected DTD to be too far out in the first  place.

This is surely the main difference based on the figures from the 2 days?

18mins and a timebank, bingo

Online day1 <3

18 mins and a time bank would work. Would stop online getting so short of players so soon and a few more runners online would stoop it going below say 16 remaining and then in my opinion you have no problems. Nice to see the figures wrong. Haters are always going to hate but DTD are the only place that put these new things out there and full marks to them for trying!

I don't always get it right but when I do it makes me happy.

I was surprised to see how close DTD got with the number of hands. I thought it'd be about 15 mins but it looks like 18's the magic number.

You'll still get similar results though purely because it's online and not live.

Why do people who offer constructive criticism get called 'haters' by the way?

Nobody on here has said anything hateful from what I've seen, they've just offered thoughts and opinions.

Does playing 10 handed online, 9 handed live make any meaningful difference?

That's really surprising to find the average live play is 2min 30 seconds per hand. I thought it would be alot more.

18 mins with a time bank would make it pretty spot on then.

I started off playing my usual scedual on stars but had to really reduce the number of tables because of the no time bank. Plus it was a £338 bullet so obviously wanted to keep an eye on that more. I couldn't find an option to make the DTD table pop up when it was my turn it just flashed and I missed a few hands. Am I just being blind and there is an option for this.

Cheers Rob. Great idea.

settings, general setting , push to front

I think 1 difference which you cannot accommodate for, is that the later in day 1 you get, the hands take much longer to Play out in live poker. Level 11 yesterday we Played 11 hands on my table ( only noted by realising I hadn't seen the button for a while then 2 hands later blinds were uP)

Yes