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Title: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on February 02, 2006, 05:43:48 PM
sky bet is offering odds of
2-1 oneil
7-2 alladyce
5-1 shearer


i got odds of

5.8 alladyce
9.0 shearer
6.0 oneil

on betfair

there is value out there if you look


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: TightEnd on February 02, 2006, 05:45:36 PM
Erikkson, with Shearer as his assistant


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: AndrewT on February 02, 2006, 05:53:19 PM
Does Shearer have his coaching badges yet? If he doesn't, UEFA won't let him be manager.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: TightEnd on February 02, 2006, 05:56:23 PM
hence why he will be assistant  8)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: 77dave on February 02, 2006, 05:58:48 PM
roeder and shearer are installed as temporay managers but neither have their coaching badges so newcastle have 12 weeks to find a new manager   so not in time for erikkson


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on February 02, 2006, 06:08:14 PM
i am sure someone last season got permission for a manager to remain in temp charge till the end of the season without the correct badge


it could of been southampton after the sacked struccock but before getting redknapp


not 100% sure though

the rule is flexable


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 02, 2006, 10:11:36 PM
Newcastle fans won't want Alladyce, Shearer is too inexperienced and O'Neill is still looking after his wife. I'm going for Hitzfeld at 21.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on February 02, 2006, 10:16:10 PM
Kevin Keegan?????????????????


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on February 02, 2006, 10:21:00 PM
paul jewell gets my outside tip


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on February 02, 2006, 10:31:06 PM
Erikkson, with Shearer as his assistant

I'd love to see it, but can't see it happening!!

Does Shearer have his coaching badges yet? If he doesn't, UEFA won't let him be manager.

He's started taking them but is a while off being fully qualified, and is lacking 5 years of managerial experience. He also has far too much power at the club to be manager right now....

Newcastle fans won't want Alladyce, Shearer is too inexperienced and O'Neill is still looking after his wife. I'm going for Hitzfeld at 21.

Agreed, i don't fancy alladyce or o'neil - the joe kinears fo their time.


Whoever we 'get' I hope they choose someone who can be in charge for 5-6 years minimum... we're not going anywhere without that.

Before anyone says steve Bruce i's like to place my veto! sadly i think its probably who we'll end up with!!!

Hiddink or erikson would be my choice... Keegan being back would not build us for the next ten year - but I would enjoying going to matches again!


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Indestructable on February 02, 2006, 11:03:30 PM
Can't see Keegan coming back to anyone to be honest. He said the City job would be his last and I believe him. Can't see Sven going there as would only see him going to a big club (In Europe).
Depending on the England job I would go for Hiddink or another foreign coach. But maybe they will rush through Shearer's badge and give him a go.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Colchester Kev on February 03, 2006, 12:31:41 PM
With Newcastles appaling back four, I reckon they need to get OJ Simpsons lawyer in to teach them how to defend :)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: matt674 on February 03, 2006, 12:52:09 PM
With Newcastles appaling back four, I reckon they need to get OJ Simpsons lawyer in to teach them how to defend :)

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Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on February 03, 2006, 01:47:41 PM
Our defence is a sham... however there are only 7 teams that have conceeded less goals than us in the league.... most of them aren't too better off than us (wednesdays resuly took us from 5/6th best!!).... show's how good shay Given has been this year I suppose.

Half Newcastle's problem is their reputation and well know weaknesses. The main issue this season has been not creating/scoring goals.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Div on February 04, 2006, 02:01:56 PM
According to Sky Sports the Geordies all have their green tinted specs on and are hoping for O'Neill.

However, I hear Alex McLeish may be available soon.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on February 05, 2006, 02:19:51 PM
According to Sky Sports the Geordies all have their green tinted specs on and are hoping for O'Neill.

However, I hear Alex McLeish may be available soon.

Looking like its O'neil, more performances like yesterday and the pressure will be off to push anything through too quickly


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on February 05, 2006, 10:28:25 PM
O'Neil is holding out for the england job which he will get

newcastle will then look at bruce or jewell and plump for jewell


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Teacake on February 05, 2006, 10:44:42 PM
MONs wife is seriously ill & has been for some time, thats why he left Celtic.

MON accepting any job offers will depend entirely on his wifes health.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on February 05, 2006, 10:49:17 PM
Give it to Glenn Roeder and hope he gets them relegated!!!


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 06, 2006, 01:32:54 AM
Give it to Glenn Roeder and hope he gets them relegated!!!
:redcard:


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 07, 2006, 07:08:23 PM
If anyone is still interested in this, Ottmar Hitzfeld is getting a LOT of pushing from numerous Newcastle fansites online. He's currently about 20-1 on BF, but in an Evening Chronicle poll, he was 2nd favourite to O'Neill. O'Neill got about 53% of the votes and Hitzfeld got 34% without much publicity from anyone. What I'm suggesting is that it might be worthwhile backing him now, and then laying off in a couple of weeks. This isn't so much a tip, but it may be worth a flutter.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on February 17, 2006, 05:49:28 PM
ok time for me to pack in the newcastle manager market i think

at the moment i am in this postion does anyone think i should make any changes before packing in

o'neil  +£46.24
big sam +£40.05
pearce +£40.40
hitzfield +£37.53
scolari +£77.90
jewell +£39.16
hoddle +£44.70
shearer +£52.00
bruce +£88.50
o'leary +£313.00
newell +£105
field +£35


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Robert HM on February 17, 2006, 05:52:27 PM
Some good work there, I'd just leave it as it is


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 17, 2006, 06:02:36 PM
ok time for me to pack in the newcastle manager market i think

at the moment i am in this postion does anyone think i should make any changes before packing in

o'neil  +£46.24
big sam +£40.05
pearce +£40.40
hitzfield +£37.53
scolari +£77.90
jewell +£39.16
hoddle +£44.70
shearer +£52.00
bruce +£88.50
o'leary +£313.00
newell +£105
field +£35

Speaking as a Newcastle fan, I'd recommend you lay off as much of O'Leary as you can. He won't get the job, there are already mutterings at Villa about his position there, (In a recent poll 22% of Villa fans said they'd physically drive him to Newcastle for him to have the job, abut 60% said they'd make him walk...). Any excess laying you'd get from that I'd stick on O'Neill or Hitzfeld, they are the two the fans most want, and Shepherd is under a lot pressure to produce the goods after the Souness debacle.

Oops, just seen O'Bleary at 100-1 on BF. Not worth it.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on February 17, 2006, 06:07:34 PM
i still have a lay on o'leary waiting for someone to match it but dont think i will get a match of £5 at 50


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on February 17, 2006, 06:10:19 PM
also there is no value on MON at present with him being at 4.0
i think he is more likely to take the england job

hitzfield doesnt seem intrested and has been on slide for days if he goes out to 25 i might put some on


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 17, 2006, 06:12:32 PM
Newell has dropped to from 100-1 to between 40-1 and 60-1 in the last few minutes, he goes much lower and I'll start laying.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on February 17, 2006, 06:16:40 PM
newell was at 100 over night i had £2500 worth on him all bought at 100-200

all got laid off at 75 over night

he has been around 40 all day wish i hadnt left the lay open now


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: smithy69 on February 20, 2006, 11:43:13 PM
1pm press conference tomoz, o neil unveiled as the new manager


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 20, 2006, 11:47:43 PM
Where did you get your info from?


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on February 20, 2006, 11:50:05 PM
1pm press conference tomoz, o neil unveiled as the new manager


not a chance i'll put a fiver that o'neil will not be named NUFC manager on 21st of feb


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on February 20, 2006, 11:50:53 PM
some idiot on betfair posted it as a ramp a few minutes ago

and then admitted it was a joke after he was caught out


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Karabiner on February 20, 2006, 11:51:57 PM
1pm press conference tomoz, o neil unveiled as the new manager

Surprised that you haven't snapped up the 4.3 on Betfair in that case......


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: smithy69 on February 20, 2006, 11:54:51 PM
just read it on the betfair forum - sorry if i mislead anyone


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: neeko on February 21, 2006, 12:01:01 AM
Martin O'Neil can have any job he wants

ManU, England or Real Madrid or anyone else in europe.

I would guess he would take England as it is part time and could look after his wife and then take a proper job in 3-4 years (maybe Arsenal or Chelsea (ManU having been filled))


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ukgatsby on February 23, 2006, 12:59:26 AM
Newcastle season ticket holder since the late 70s. My own personal view (no inside info just calling it as i see it)

Hitzfield -  Many fans number 1 choice in that he has an impressive cv and is alledgedly interested
Big Sam - Already walked out of an interview once last year and Not a favourite of the fans because of style of football
Stuart Pearce - Would be a popular choice but settled in Manchester and may have been privately warned off NUFC by Keegan
M.O'Neil - Not ready to come back and happy to wait for Man Utd . Also a well publicised Sunderland fan who has went on record at talk ins that he would never manage Newcastle.
Curbs - ok in current role but doubtful whether he could step up and face our almost impossible demands of success.
O'Leary - Please god no !!!!!!
Paul Jewel - Highly thought of but question mark over whether he could handle some of the overpaid brats at Newcastle
Sven - Not a hope in hell
Mike Newell - Been talk of a joint post with Shearer but it aint going to happen.

Shearer has played 10 years and is the all time leading scorer , he is savvy to know that hes a playing legend however when he hangs up his boots there is a forward line up of ....

Owen who will....

a) score 30 goals a season 50/1
b) stick around for at least 1 more season and maybe play 15-20 games 6/4
c) have a half decent world cup and be away in the summer 1/2

That realistically leaves a forward line up of Amoebi (crap) , Chopra (div 1 class at best) , new signing (realistically someone who is not getting his place in another prem team) That combination means just like Wednesday a struggle to score goals . That with an iffy defence means Newcastle more likely to be in the bottom half . Shearer was negotiating a broadcasting contract when he said he was playing and those negotiations were put on hold. He wont jump in at the deep end and take over a struggling Newcastle side . If he is to be the Newcastle manager it is more likely to be in 3 or 4 years time. Let someone else start from scratch and take the flak. I would be amazed if he hasnt had that conversation with Newell and put him off.

Glenn Roeder currently acting coach is well thought of at NUFC and was offered the job but his past bad experience and illness at West Ham has put him off. If Newcastle were to somehow qualify for Europe or win the FA Cup then he would take it full time but like Shearer isnt keen on diving in at the deep end with failure more expected than success.

The next manager ideally will currently not be employed already thus saving yet another expensive settlement. Hitzfeld with his impressive cv , availability and willingness is amongst the favourites and my pick and a lot of the fans. He is experienced and wise enough to be able to start from scratch whilst still playing attractive football. Freddie wants him as he is the best and most viable candidate. The negotiation are alledgedly ongoing and the board are just waiting till the end of season so they can plan their strategy and decide what funds would be available to the new boss.

I expect about £10-15 million to be available with any extra coming from the sale Bowyer , Luque and unfortunately but probable..Shay Given.


Paul


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Robert HM on February 23, 2006, 05:15:26 PM
O'Neil's price is dropping rapidly on BF, has there been some news?


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on February 23, 2006, 05:21:03 PM
I expect about £10-15 million to be available with any extra coming from the sale Bowyer , Luque and unfortunately but probable..Shay Given.
Paul

Why would Newcastle want to sell Given? Luque has been very very disappointing. As for Bowyer, he should have been sold after he started a fight with Dyer.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: swish on February 23, 2006, 05:49:54 PM
Why would Newcastle want to sell Given? Luque has been very very disappointing. As for Bowyer, he should have been sold after he started a fight with Dyer.

We don't want to sell Given, but for several seasons of underachievment now he has made noises about not wanting to go his whole career without winning things - i.e "get yer act together NUFC or I'm off to Man u or the Arse the first chance I get."

Incidentally, there are now reports around town from highly respected sources that O'Neill is a done deal and will be joining at the end of the season.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on February 23, 2006, 05:51:36 PM
We don't want to sell Given, but for several seasons of underachievment now he has made noises about not wanting to go his whole career without winning things - i.e "get yer act together NUFC or I'm off to Man u or the Arse the first chance I get."

Just like Stephen Carr. Grass and greener comes to mind.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ukgatsby on February 23, 2006, 08:27:03 PM
Thing is though Man Utd have now got Van Der Sar and would he realistically win more at Arsenal. Amazing the other season and a great result vs Real Madrid but this is still a big transition period for Arsenal. They have bankrolled the stadium and have struggled on the pitch as a result. No player would be keen to commit to the Gunners if Henry went and if he does they would struggle to fill Highbury next season never mind Ashburton Grove.

That is maybe the same dilemna for Owen. Chelsea dont seem interested , Man Utd have enough quality in the positions and Arsenal would be a risk if they are about to become Londons 3rd (or even worse) team. Chelsea have turned the football world upside down and no longer are teams prepared to match them financially when realistically they are fighting for 2nd place. Bearing in mind the only downside to 4th is an extra qualifying game for the CL.

Have heard various rumours about M O'N today but nothing concrete and im still willing to go out on a limb that
a) he sticks to his mackem based promise of never managing Newcastle
b) he holds on for Man Utd


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on February 23, 2006, 08:34:28 PM
I wish I had your optimism for Arsenal's decline ;)

Next season, Arsenal will have the highest gate receipts in world football. >:( They will be playing in the best stadium in the Premier League >:( >:(. I think that Given/Owen would jump at the chance to play at Arsenal, but would Arsenal want either of them?


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on February 23, 2006, 10:18:37 PM
give the job to roeder please  >:?


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ukgatsby on February 26, 2006, 07:23:51 PM
I wish I had your optimism for Arsenal's decline ;)

Next season, Arsenal will have the highest gate receipts in world football. >:( They will be playing in the best stadium in the Premier League )

Poor show vs Blackburn and the gap for 4th place is widening. If Henry goes and their is no CL do you realistically think Arsenal would fill a new stadium. Remember when they played their European games at Wembley. Didnt sell out there.

GR doing ok for Toon so far . 4 wins and a draw with only 1 goal conceded. Not the hardest batch of games in the world , but you can only beat what is put in front of you.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on February 27, 2006, 01:12:43 AM
Poor show vs Blackburn and the gap for 4th place is widening. If Henry goes and their is no CL do you realistically think Arsenal would fill a new stadium. Remember when they played their European games at Wembley. Didnt sell out there.

They didn't sell out, but they did get 72,000 fans instead of 77,000.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: The Baron on February 27, 2006, 04:08:55 AM
In terms of rebuilding I think there should be optimism around Arsenal. They have youth, talent and a new stadium to provide future funding. One or two buys and no injuries next season and they'll be fine.

Much worse off are say Man U with no central midfielders and a poor defence.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on February 27, 2006, 06:58:57 AM
In terms of rebuilding I think there should be optimism around Arsenal. They have youth, talent and a new stadium to provide future funding. One or two buys and no injuries next season and they'll be fine.

Much worse off are say Man U with no central midfielders and a poor defence.

I disagree that they have a poor defence, but their whole midfield apart from Ronaldo, is either too old or just plain useless.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Triple X on February 27, 2006, 08:59:57 AM
I wish I had your optimism for Arsenal's decline ;)

Next season, Arsenal will have the highest gate receipts in world football. >:( They will be playing in the best stadium in the Premier League )

Poor show vs Blackburn and the gap for 4th place is widening. If Henry goes and their is no CL do you realistically think Arsenal would fill a new stadium. Remember when they played their European games at Wembley. Didnt sell out there.

GR doing ok for Toon so far . 4 wins and a draw with only 1 goal conceded. Not the hardest batch of games in the world , but you can only beat what is put in front of you.

Are you serious?  Every league game will be a sell out at Arsenal - no doubt.  Champ League and FA Cup should be too and as for Carling Cup who cares.

There are something like 50,000 registered members at Arsenal desperate for a season ticket and only the top 6-7,000 of these will be guaranteed, after existing renewals, corporate, club - level, and local schools etc receive as part of the planning gain.

There will be some very disappointed supporters, desperately fighting to pick up tickets on a match by match basis


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: The Baron on February 27, 2006, 01:21:40 PM
In terms of rebuilding I think there should be optimism around Arsenal. They have youth, talent and a new stadium to provide future funding. One or two buys and no injuries next season and they'll be fine.

Much worse off are say Man U with no central midfielders and a poor defence.

I disagree that they have a poor defence, but their whole midfield apart from Ronaldo, is either too old or just plain useless.

Evra looks shocking so far. Silvestre I have never rated. Brown still hasn't found that "potential" he was meant to have had 10 years ago. O'Shea has had three quarters of a good season in his life.

The only back four I like that they have is Neville Ferdinand Vidic Heinze.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Robert HM on February 27, 2006, 01:28:11 PM
Yes that's all very well but who is going to be the next Newcastle manager??


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: The Baron on February 27, 2006, 03:40:40 PM
Roeder.

Newcastle can't attract a big manager. With the exception of Bobby Robson they never have.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: NoflopsHomer on February 27, 2006, 04:36:53 PM
Roeder.

Newcastle can't attract a big manager. With the exception of Bobby Robson they never have.

Didn't realise Anfield legend Kenny Dalgish wasn't a big manager...


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on February 27, 2006, 04:54:35 PM
roeder hasnt got the quaifactions needed


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ukgatsby on February 28, 2006, 12:34:52 AM
Roeder has acheived his objective. Got the team playing as a team and had excellent results to start.
Because realistically we are going to finish between 8th and 14th there is no rush to appoint a new manager. We have a coach who is qualified so he will be officially classed as manager for last 2 or 3 games even though Roeder will still be in the dugout.

It will be offered to Hitzfeld during the summer :)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: NoflopsHomer on March 23, 2006, 02:05:37 PM
Anyone with leftover cash, LAY George Graham @ 6.8 on BF. I have more chance of getting the job than him.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: The Baron on March 25, 2006, 04:32:35 AM
Roeder.

Newcastle can't attract a big manager. With the exception of Bobby Robson they never have.

Didn't realise Anfield legend Kenny Dalgish wasn't a big manager...

Maybe a legend in playing terms but not so as a manager.

Inherited a great team and left when it got old, leaving Souness right in it. He bought the title at Blackburn and did SFA at Newcastle.

If Alain Perrin took over Barcelona right now they'd still win......


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on March 25, 2006, 09:12:35 AM
Guys working for a leading bookie in th head office we have been flooded with punters backing Q Sanchez Flores  he had apparently bought a house in Newcastle and the estate agent phoned up and bcked him at 16/1 he is now 6/1


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Dewi_cool on March 25, 2006, 09:36:23 AM
10.5 on betfair


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on March 25, 2006, 02:34:52 PM
reason he was being backed at 16-1 on the high street was cause he was trading as low as 7-1 on betfair so they were taking the arb

there is no chance of him getting the job mainly due to the fact sheppard wont go forgien again after guillet


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 06, 2006, 01:18:33 PM
M. O Neill
 
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   H. Cuper
 
£80.00
 450£8 900£5 910£2
 1000£2
       Vacant
 
   G. Trapattoni
 
£980.00
 310£5 400£10 600£5
 800£2
 1000£2    Vacant
 
   N. Warnock
 
£21456.30
 300£50 400£8 900£5
 1000£2
       Vacant
 
   P. Taylor
 
£80.00
 420£3 440£3 800£5
 1000£3
       Vacant
 
   A. Boothroyd
 
£80.00
 100£6 200£10 800£5
 1000£3
       Vacant
 
   T. Craig
 
£4823.00
 400£5 710£5 800£5
 1000£3
       Vacant
 
   T. Sollied
 
£80.00
 250£25 320£6 500£5
 900£7
 1000£2    Vacant
 
   C. Adriaanse
 
£80.00
 400£5 420£10 950£5
 1000£2
       Vacant
 
   J. Rober
 
£157.80
 75£10 100£10 110£8
 200£10
 450£2 500£5 Vacant
 
   K. Blackwell
 
£80.00
 500£13 600£2 700£5
 1000£2
       Vacant
 
   F. Terim
 
£80.00
 100£10 990£5 1000£5
   
       Vacant
 
   B. Davies
 
£80.00
 150£13 450£4 900£5
 1000£3
       Vacant
 
   D. Advocaat
 
£80.00
 650£7 710£5 800£5
 1000£3
       Vacant
 
   S. McClaren
 
£80.00
 400£3 420£6 700£5
 1000£2
       Vacant
 
   L. Spalletti
 
£80.00
 100£8 990£5 1000£11
   
       Vacant
 
   J. Gregory
 
£80.00
 110£6 990£5 1000£13
   
       Vacant
 
   P. Beardsley
 
£80.00
 810£2 990£5 1000£5
   
       Vacant
 
   C. Gross
 
£80.00
 200£5 990£5 1000£4
   
       Vacant
 
   P. Jackson
 
£80.00
 100£6 990£5 1000£17
   
       Vacant
 
   M. McGhee
 
£80.00
 900£11 990£5 1000£8
   
       Vacant
 
   Sir Alex Ferguson
 
£80.00
 100£6 990£5 1000£14
   
       Vacant
 
   J. Charlton
 
£80.00
 100£6 990£5 1000£32
   
       Vacant
 
   C. Levein
 
£80.00
 100£6 990£5 1000£17
   
       Vacant
 
   H. Redknapp
 
£80.00
 100£6 900£5 1000£16
   
       Vacant
 
   P. Simpson
 
£80.00
 600£18 990£5 1000£7
   
       Vacant
 
   P. Parkinson
 
£80.00
 100£6 990£5 1000£16
   
       Vacant
 
   P. Le Guen
 
£80.00
 300£4 990£5 1000£3
   
       Vacant
 
   D. Deschamps
 
£80.00
 80£5 220£5 300£5
 500£6
 580£2 590£5 Vacant
 
   R. Hodgson
 
£7300.00
 720£9 950£5 1000£4
   
       Vacant
 
   C. Puel
 
£12042.10
 700£15 990£5 1000£4
   
       Vacant
 
   G. Francis
 
£80.00
 100£6 990£5 1000£16
   
       Vacant
 
   M. Pellegrini
 
£80.00
 300£7 800£5 810£2
 940£8
 960£5 1000£2 Vacant
 
   J. Toshack
 
£830.00
 450£5 500£10 900£5
 1000£2
       Vacant
 
   G. Vialli
 
£80.00
 220£6 230£10 500£5
 980£2
 1000£2    Vacant
 
   J. Klinsmann
 
£80.00
 410£7 960£2 990£5
 1000£3
       Vacant
 
   Dave Jones
 
£4080.00
 250£2 990£5 1000£6
   
       Vacant
 
   M. Jol
 
£80.00
 100£5 110£6 150£10
 200£6
 220£4 250£3 Vacant
 
   N. Clough
 
£80.00
 500£10 990£5 1000£7
   
       Vacant
 
   J. Irureta
 
£1180.00
 410£10 500£5 510£2
 900£2
 970£5 1000£3 Vacant
 
   C. Queiroz
 
£10276.00
 660£6 810£2 900£5
 990£5
 1000£3    Vacant
 
   K. Dalglish
 
£80.00
 350£8 990£5 1000£20
   
       Vacant
 
   J. Tigana
 
£80.00
 110£36 990£5 1000£16
   
       Vacant
 
   B. Vogts
 
£80.00
    990£5 1000£20
   
       Vacant
 
   V. Del Bosque
 
£80.00
    990£5 1000£20
   
       Vacant
 
   L. Mattheus
 
£80.00
 110£36 990£5 1000£16
   
     
anyone fancy my book my minium win is £80 and i have no losers
i will selll the book fo the right offer


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Junior Senior on April 06, 2006, 01:40:02 PM
£70 and that my final offer.....


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 06, 2006, 01:43:49 PM
£71


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 06, 2006, 01:45:19 PM
FU

i will take offers around 400 due to the fact there is so much liquidity in market i would make that from coleman newell warnock


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: thetank on April 06, 2006, 01:45:43 PM
I'd buy it if I understood what the hell it meant. I just about get Juniors joke, and I know it's some-owt to do with football.



Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Junior Senior on April 06, 2006, 01:53:13 PM
i dont understand all this betfair stuff either - i just new £70 would be good value. - i really would like to learn about betting and laying etc and how the whole markets thing works - ironside mcedumcate please (thats scottish for teach).



Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Karabiner on April 06, 2006, 01:57:04 PM
How did Padraig Parkinson get in the betting ?


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 06, 2006, 01:57:14 PM
PMSL @ offers around 400 ... you have the only realistic applicants to win 80 quid ffs, anyone that offers more than £80 would have to have a bolt loose ... give tikay a ring ;)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 06, 2006, 02:04:27 PM
ok no matter who wins now i will get £80

if mike newell (for exmaple)wins i will get £4573.02

he is currently priced at 100 (99-1) but i have acted like the bookmakers and if his price drops to 36 i will lay off some bets meaning i will get £40 for the field and lose £1400 for the amoun i can win on newell thus meaning i am £120 for the field miniuim (other runners are more) and £3173.02 for newell newells prices moves up and down more often than thewys stack as the price on newell goes down i lay off more of that £4573.02 to a level where a newell win win give me the same price as the field hopefully i can do the same with other runners as they price move downward

so i back high hoping there price will move down then lay off low


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 06, 2006, 02:05:54 PM
the minium i can win is £80 i can lose nothing and i have many runners and riders in 4 and 5 figures i think my book is worth £300 to me but an experianced trader who has more balls than me could make a foruntune


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: MPOWER on April 06, 2006, 02:09:13 PM
Just bet on

Alan Curbishly

Easy Money

Regards

M


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Junior Senior on April 06, 2006, 02:09:36 PM
so do you basically have to watch betfair constantly? - making sure the price is right etc.?


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 06, 2006, 02:13:59 PM
no you can lay the price in in advance

i made a mistake yesterday i layed in j rober for 20 at 500 went off and did stuff then came back checked the £20 had been matched and his price had dropped to 10s and was trading openly back up at 100 i
the fact i had bet him at 750 meant i still made a profit but not as much as i could of


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 06, 2006, 02:18:20 PM
junior some people watch constantly for movements but they obviously have more money than me

befofe i started this i only had about £20 on betfair after this market finsihes i will hopefully have a few hundred


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: thetank on April 06, 2006, 02:24:28 PM
no you can lay the price in in advance

i made a mistake yesterday i layed in j rober for 20 at 500 went off and did stuff then came back checked the £20 had been matched and his price had dropped to 10s and was trading openly back up at 100 i
the fact i had bet him at 750 meant i still made a profit but not as much as i could of

Whooosh, I'll stick to flops and re-raising for now.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Junior Senior on April 06, 2006, 02:41:50 PM
junior some people watch constantly for movements but they obviously have more money than me

befofe i started this i only had about £20 on betfair after this market finsihes i will hopefully have a few hundred
good luck


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Karabiner on April 06, 2006, 02:59:01 PM
Don't forget the 5% commission on winnings Ironside.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 06, 2006, 03:00:25 PM
5% of £400 is £20 if i can get myself upto that sort of money i wont care about £20


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Karabiner on April 06, 2006, 11:10:36 PM
What if Christian Gross gets the job ?


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on April 06, 2006, 11:16:37 PM
What if Christian Gross gets the job ?

LMAO


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 06, 2006, 11:24:54 PM
What if Christian Gross gets the job ?

i get £80


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 07, 2006, 12:54:17 AM
What if Christian Gross gets the job ?

 ;technophobe; ;technophobe; ;technophobe;


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: MPOWER on April 07, 2006, 07:07:49 PM
Just bet on

Alan Curbishly

Easy Money

Regards

M

BBC Text page 305

Intresting I bet £250 @ 14/1 Thursday with B/S

Fingers Crossed

regards


M


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 07, 2006, 07:13:35 PM
what is the bbc saying now?

still trading at around 12.0 on betfair

i laid off a huge chunk of change at 75 last week wish i had the bottle to have waited


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: NoflopsHomer on April 07, 2006, 07:17:42 PM
Lay Mancini at 6.2 - Not a chance in hell.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 07, 2006, 07:28:06 PM
Lay Mancini at 6.2 - Not a chance in hell.

so he went down to 6.0 lol

i agree mancini is a non runner


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: MPOWER on April 10, 2006, 11:20:33 AM
Just bet on

Alan Curbishly

Easy Money

Regards

M

BBC Text page 305

Intresting I bet £250 @ 14/1 Thursday with B/S

Fingers Crossed

regards


M
NOW 5/1 on B/S


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: MPOWER on April 19, 2006, 09:17:56 PM
Any Idea's how long this will go on for..

I've spent my winnings u know.

Regards

M



 


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 22, 2006, 10:52:13 PM
Mpower you too

no matter who gets the job i get £200 now and i still have alot of bets to lay off i am still hoping for around £400 but could easy get $500 or £600 if the right people drop under 200


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: MPOWER on April 23, 2006, 06:38:51 PM
I've had more on AC with Betfair £5k if it happens

Good luck to you Ironside I hopeAC is a good result
for you aswell as yours truly

I've got stress

Regards

M



Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on April 23, 2006, 06:52:50 PM
I've had more on AC with Betfair £5k if it happens

Good luck to you Ironside I hopeAC is a good result
you aswell as yours truly

I've got stress

Regards

M



I hope you dont win 5k then... no offence - just don't fancy him as the man....

Roeder must be 'favourite' now i think....


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: MPOWER on April 23, 2006, 07:33:35 PM
I've had more on AC with Betfair £5k if it happens

Good luck to you Ironside I hopeAC is a good result
you aswell as yours truly

I've got stress

Regards

M



I hope you dont win 5k then... no offence - just don't fancy him as the man....

Roeder must be 'favourite' now i think....


Hope you do your complete nuts Rooky. 

No Offence

Regards

M


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 23, 2006, 07:34:36 PM
i want warnock to get it as i have 32k if he gets it


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on April 23, 2006, 08:19:51 PM
I've had more on AC with Betfair £5k if it happens

Good luck to you Ironside I hopeAC is a good result
you aswell as yours truly

I've got stress

Regards

M



I hope you dont win 5k then... no offence - just don't fancy him as the man....

Roeder must be 'favourite' now i think....


Hope you do your complete nuts Rooky. 

No Offence

Regards

M


?

I mean, I'm a Newcastle fan and don't want AC to be the next manager.... therefore you wouldn't win your bet...Sorry if it upsets you that me wanting to get a good manager into my team doesnt win you money!


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: MPOWER on April 23, 2006, 08:22:42 PM
I'm not upset.

Regards

M


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nakor on April 23, 2006, 09:54:53 PM
Not read this thread (short of time)

But Glenn Roeder has been on local Newcastle radio tonight saying he will be taking his badges and wants to be considered for the job.

Might be a nice bit of info for you Betfair boys.



Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: MPOWER on April 23, 2006, 09:57:25 PM
Not read this thread (short of time)

But Glenn Roeder has been on local Newcastle radio tonight saying he will be taking his badges and wants to be considered for the job.

Might be a nice bit of info for you Betfair boys.



I feel sick


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 23, 2006, 11:00:14 PM
i dont all my runners are green i just hope feddie doesnt name roedar untill i am bigger green


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on April 23, 2006, 11:07:04 PM
Not read this thread (short of time)

But Glenn Roeder has been on local Newcastle radio tonight saying he will be taking his badges and wants to be considered for the job.

Might be a nice bit of info for you Betfair boys.



Ha Ha.

Roeder is such a prick. I hope he gets em relegated like he did at West Ham.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on April 24, 2006, 11:34:19 AM
Not read this thread (short of time)

But Glenn Roeder has been on local Newcastle radio tonight saying he will be taking his badges and wants to be considered for the job.

Might be a nice bit of info for you Betfair boys.



 :)up

Ha Ha.

Roeder is such a prick. I hope he gets em relegated like he did at West Ham.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on April 24, 2006, 12:14:06 PM
I wonder what West Ham would be like now if Roeder didn't take over...


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on April 24, 2006, 12:51:39 PM
Didn't he also get west ham's highest ever finish? and the season they got relegated didnt he miss some with a brain tumor? (genuine questions)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on April 24, 2006, 01:05:27 PM
When we was already relegated.

He got the tumour after why we was in the Championship.

It didn't help have Di canio on the bench for the second half of the season


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on April 24, 2006, 01:07:19 PM
Didn't he also get west ham's highest ever finish?

No. West Ham came 5th under Harry.

Quote
and the season they got relegated didnt he miss some with a brain tumor? (genuine questions)

Yes, he had a brain tumor.



Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Graham C on April 25, 2006, 11:00:35 AM
Glen Roeder is being given the job now according to the news

still available in BF at 1.61


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on April 25, 2006, 11:19:09 AM
Glen Roeder is being given the job now according to the news

still available in BF at 1.61

The Newcastle board are as thick as Pig shit. They  just never learn.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Karabiner on April 25, 2006, 12:15:55 PM
They say that T.Craig is a bit of a dark horse for the job.

Supposedly bringing him in as a figurehead "manager" while Roeder gets his papers sorted.

He could save the bookies a fortune.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on April 25, 2006, 12:54:28 PM
Glen Roeder is being given the job now according to the news

still available in BF at 1.61

The Newcastle board are as thick as Pig shit. You just never learn.

Tell us something we don't know!

I'm staying on the fence, he has done well and we have played the best football since Keegan (apart from the fourth & third place under robson) but 13 games isn't a lot to go by.

Having said that I don't really fancy any of the other candidates so.....

 :dontask:


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on April 25, 2006, 01:42:58 PM
He will do the same to you than he done to West Ham.

his record for getting teams relegated are good

gillingham
Watford
Burnley
West Ham                                                             


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 25, 2006, 01:44:37 PM
Glen Roeder Burnley manager ..when ??   


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on April 25, 2006, 01:52:01 PM
He will do the same to you than he done to West Ham.

his record for getting teams relegated are good

gillingham
Watford
Burnley
West Ham                                                             

West Ham fans aren't exactly the best judge in manager though - two words... Alan Pardew! Never seen so much hate towards a manager (from his own fans) and for him to now have you all eating out the palm of his hand!(and rightly so)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on April 25, 2006, 02:16:34 PM
Roeder took charge of burnley temporary and got them relegated even though they said Waddle was in charge!


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on April 25, 2006, 02:17:28 PM
He will do the same to you than he done to West Ham.

his record for getting teams relegated are good

gillingham
Watford
Burnley
West Ham                                                             

West Ham fans aren't exactly the best judge in manager though - two words... Alan Pardew! Never seen so much hate towards a manager (from his own fans) and for him to now have you all eating out the palm of his hand!(and rightly so)

Is that why we have had 10 managers in  the last 100 years where you lot have had that in the last 10


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 25, 2006, 02:21:20 PM
Glen Roeder has NEVER managed Burnley !!!


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on April 25, 2006, 02:22:44 PM
When waddle was in charge Roeder was the one taking charge of team affairs half way throught the season even though waddle was still classed as No1



Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Colchester Kev on April 25, 2006, 02:26:15 PM
he was Waddles assistant yes, Manager NO . Thats like saying steve mclaren and Bryan Kidd were the ones that won numerous trophies for Man Utd, they didnt Alex ferguson did.



Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on April 25, 2006, 02:27:50 PM
Sorry Kev he has been my next door neigbour for the last 11 years so i do get hear all the gossip from my mum.

I do miss the free tickets though


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on April 25, 2006, 02:30:29 PM
And I managed to get on him as next manager at 6.2 on b/f

fingers crossed


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on April 25, 2006, 02:34:15 PM
guess who had over 23k green on tommy craig having traded him for a profit and the announcement that they had extended roeders period in charge i put the remaining green (15k) up for grabs at 1000

BUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


he is now trading at 34


still i backed him for 36 and laid him for 68 and still have a couple hundred green on him but just think if i hadnt bottled it last week


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on April 25, 2006, 10:08:58 PM
He will do the same to you than he done to West Ham.

his record for getting teams relegated are good

gillingham
Watford
Burnley
West Ham                                                             

West Ham fans aren't exactly the best judge in manager though - two words... Alan Pardew! Never seen so much hate towards a manager (from his own fans) and for him to now have you all eating out the palm of his hand!(and rightly so)

Is that why we have had 10 managers in  the last 100 years where you lot have had that in the last 10

We've had 5 full time managers since 1992.... Impressive West Ham figures, if not completely underestimated! I can only ever remeber every West Ham manager being relegated with them at some point in time - even the great Billy Bonds (or did he get sacked before they went down?)

Looks like we might just have to wait and see how he does with the Newcastle job - he has the best record out of the English managers this year & is playing the most attractive football, give him the Enngland job and we'll have Big Phil!


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 03, 2006, 06:40:23 PM
Newcastle want Roeder as manager LOOOL

They just never learn...


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Robert HM on May 03, 2006, 06:57:53 PM
is it official?


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 03, 2006, 06:59:22 PM
On Sky news they have just said that Newcastle have applied to the Premier League asking them if Roeder can be considered to become the next Newcastle manager.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Karabiner on May 03, 2006, 10:00:35 PM
On Sky news they have just said that Newcastle have applied to the Premier League asking them if Roeder can be considered to become the next Newcastle manager.

He's still backable @ 4/5 on Betfair for those that need to get out of it  ::)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on May 03, 2006, 10:23:27 PM
the major news agencies are just quoting alan oliver who 6 weeks ago said that MON had signed


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: lazaroonie on May 04, 2006, 04:20:36 PM
i have it on good authority that Martin ONeil will be appointed Newcastle Manager after the last game of the season.

All the backroom staff will be leaving.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 04, 2006, 04:51:03 PM
How good a source?!

I think all the hype would be harsh on roeder if it turned out to be MON. If its such a done deal that people outside the club know then surely they'd have told Roeder before putting him on tele saying he wants it?

I'm not a big MON fan, I'm completely indifferent between him and Roeder.....


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Teacake on May 04, 2006, 05:47:49 PM


I'm not a big MON fan

TBH your not in a position to be fussy, NU are the biggest underachievers in Europe bar none.
MON would be the best thing to happen to NU for decades irrespective of whether hes a Mackem or you just don't fancy his style of play.
Heaven forbid that you might actually have a chance of winning something!


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 04, 2006, 06:05:22 PM
TBH your not in a position to be fussy, NU are the biggest underachievers in Europe bar none.
MON would be the best thing to happen to NU for decades irrespective of whether hes a Mackem or you just don't fancy his style of play.
Heaven forbid that you might actually have a chance of winning something!

All I know is this, I would prefer MON to manage my team than Roeder.

And I would wish Roeder on any of Spurs rivals.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: lazaroonie on May 04, 2006, 06:09:00 PM
How good a source?!


Pretty good source - city types from Northern Rock who were knocking back the bolly last night with a good mate of mine who works at ING.




Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 04, 2006, 06:37:29 PM


I'm not a big MON fan

TBH your not in a position to be fussy, NU are the biggest underachievers in Europe bar none.
MON would be the best thing to happen to NU for decades irrespective of whether hes a Mackem or you just don't fancy his style of play.
Heaven forbid that you might actually have a chance of winning something!

As the biggest under acheivers your obviously talking about recent times... in which case surely real madrid should be considered bigger under achievers based on money spent!

Chance of winning something is excactly what everyone of our previous five managers has given us! FA cup finals, league runners up UEFA semi's... Keegan was the 'right man' for the job, Dagleish was a proven winner, Robson had everything you could want, Souness was rashly brought in to add some dissapline....

Every manager that has come under pressure at Newcastle has been as a result of the Style of play. Dagleish was appalling to watch, Guillet was a farce and souness give the players no direction at all as reflected by Roeders ability to make them play so well so quickly.  There is no doubt that once they lose the fans they're on borrowed time. So I disagree, the style of play is hugely important.... more so than giving us another 'chance' at winning something.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Karabiner on May 04, 2006, 06:45:49 PM
MON is available @ 21 on BF right now.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 04, 2006, 07:17:21 PM
Its not going to be Roeder then! PL reject request...

So thats money on either MON or that Tommy Craig bet.....

Apparently there is a clause whereby NUFC can get the go ahead if they get the backing from the other league clubs.... so no news then!


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Teacake on May 05, 2006, 05:16:37 PM


I'm not a big MON fan

TBH your not in a position to be fussy, NU are the biggest underachievers in Europe bar none.
MON would be the best thing to happen to NU for decades irrespective of whether hes a Mackem or you just don't fancy his style of play.
Heaven forbid that you might actually have a chance of winning something!

As the biggest under acheivers your obviously talking about recent times... in which case surely real madrid should be considered bigger under achievers based on money spent!

Chance of winning something is excactly what everyone of our previous five managers has given us! FA cup finals, league runners up UEFA semi's... Keegan was the 'right man' for the job, Dagleish was a proven winner, Robson had everything you could want, Souness was rashly brought in to add some dissapline....

Every manager that has come under pressure at Newcastle has been as a result of the Style of play. Dagleish was appalling to watch, Guillet was a farce and souness give the players no direction at all as reflected by Roeders ability to make them play so well so quickly.  There is no doubt that once they lose the fans they're on borrowed time. So I disagree, the style of play is hugely important.... more so than giving us another 'chance' at winning something.

No I'm not talking about recently I'm talking about the last 30 odd years, the comparision with Real Madrid is quite funny though.
Its nice to win with style but you've got to find a way to way to win first & then try to do it with style IMHO.
You talk about runners up, semis etc. I'm sure Shearer is thrilled with that. It sounds as though you have got into a losers mentality, thats the first thing MON would get rid of.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: dan on May 05, 2006, 05:57:49 PM
i have had a little bit on MON today he has come in to about 12.5 on betfair now


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2006, 06:04:27 PM
I think we've only really been back on the European map for the last 8 or 9 year so still think your statement is way over the top. We went through a hell of a long period of before the Hall & Keegan era; the money spent and the awesome stadium we now have is all people judge the club by when measuring success.

As Shearer has said many times, he would loved to have won something for/with Newcastle, but he doesn't regret not going to Man U because he has fufiled his childhood dream in playing for 'his' club. Unless you have that attachement to a team, and to the game, which I don't think is that common in any other club/region, then that might be difficult to believe, but its true.

It isn't a loser mentallity, it is a far more realistic view. I don't class success as winning the league cup, I'd much rather be 'a top 4 team' and get back into those european nights, yet if you win some silverware then that makes you great? I measure it purely from a selfish point of view, I pay my money and want to be entertained...the only reason people want silverware is to boast about their teams 'success' to other fans - for me, if the people playing for my team give 100% and provide good football i'm happy. Lets face it, and this is not a loser mentallity- its fact, no team other than Chealsea or Man U are going to win the league in the next 5 years, and add Liverpool and Arsenal to that, baring strange draws, they'll probably have the next 5 FA cups.

Don't get me wrong, I want and will NUFC on to win all of the above things..... I just don't see there being a halo around MON's head that will make him better placed than KK or Bobby Robson to win something.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 05, 2006, 08:22:31 PM
As the biggest under acheivers your obviously talking about recent times... in which case surely real madrid should be considered bigger under achievers based on money spent!

rotflmfao


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Teacake on May 05, 2006, 09:10:34 PM


Sorry to keep this going Rooky but I've got to respond

I think we've only really been back on the European map for the last 8 or 9 year so still think your statement is way over the top. We went through a hell of a long period of before the Hall & Keegan era; the money spent and the awesome stadium we now have is all people judge the club by when measuring success.

The fact that NU have only been back on the Euro scene for the last 8/9 years backs up my point. NU are a HUGE club who should be challenging in Europe never mind England. I've watched them from the Gallowgate end playing in the old 2nd division so I know what I'm talking about.
 I dont know anyone who measures a clubs success by how awesome the stadium is!


Unless you have that attachement to a team, and to the game, which I don't think is that common in any other club/region, then that might be difficult to believe, but its true.

It is common in other cities such as Liverpool, Manchester & Glasgow 

It isn't a loser mentallity, it is a far more realistic view. I don't class success as winning the league cup, I'd much rather be 'a top 4 team' and get back into those european nights, yet if you win some silverware then that makes you great? I measure it purely from a selfish point of view, I pay my money and want to be entertained...the only reason people want silverware is to boast about their teams 'success' to other fans - for me, if the people playing for my team give 100% and provide good football i'm happy.

You don't know that you'd rather have nice football than silverware because NU haven't won a trophy in your lifetime. If NU won anything the whole city would grind to a halt for a week. The statement about winning silverware to boast to other teams fans is just strange, ask any fan of any club that has won anything & they will tell you its the greatest feeling. Only once NU have won something will you realise that you do have a losing mentality.

Don't get me wrong, I want and will NUFC on to win all of the above things..... I just don't see there being a halo around MON's head that will make him better placed than KK or Bobby Robson to win something.


No one said he had a halo round his his head but what he would do is get rid of the deadwood & underachievers & instill a winning mentality in the dressing room whilst getting the best out of the players who buy in to his thinking. He will not put up with the primadonnas that currently inhabit the NU dressing room either.

I think the NU fans deserve better than they are getting but if they are happy for Glen Roeder to get the job then maybe not.





Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2006, 10:58:34 PM
This is whats so good about football.

Just a couple as there's no point in going on, its all about opinions...

I don't class 8/9 years as a long time in football and if you were to go to european countries and asked people about PL teams I honestly don't think we'd be in the top 6 they mention, but how do you judge huge? My point about the stadium wasn't about sucess, it was the way it is viewed as a staus symbol that means we should be this or that because of its size. A club not too far away will once again have 1st division football at a 48000 seater....

When I say it is uncommon the other two areas I was thinking of was Liverpool and Glasgow....not too convinced by Manchester even thou they are without doubt massively loyal (City that is!)

Its a fair point that I don't know what it would be like for silverware... The majority of fans who have won silverware in the country over the past few years are from teams that dont have football embeded into them-perhaps my view is based on experience with them.

If MON was proven at doing the things you said then fair play, but his cup win(s?) with Leciester still covered up allsorts of shocking half hearted performaces from a very average side. He did a good job with Leicester and Wycombe, but the work he did has always been inflated by the lack of resources he's had. This is one of the most common misconceptions in football. Some managers just cant do it with 'big' budgets and big expectations, I just don't think he's shown this as yet. I know the obvious answer is Celtic but I'm not going to tip the apple kart with any discussion on his success there.....

End of the day I'm in limbo (as I think i said earlier in the thread) I'm indifferent between alot of the names thrown round and will allow the new manager time to get his style across and take the club forward.... It has been pretty noticable that even with all the home wins and performances there have been no real vocal support for Roeder, but that is not likely to affect the chairmans decision!



Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 05, 2006, 11:06:36 PM
if you were to go to european countries and asked people about PL teams I honestly don't think we'd be in the top 6 they mention.

You would definitely be mentioned in the top 6 clubs in the EPL.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2006, 11:09:45 PM
As the biggest under acheivers your obviously talking about recent times... in which case surely real madrid should be considered bigger under achievers based on money spent!

rotflmfao

How do you measure under achieving? in the last nine or ten years Real have only won the league twice, they have two european trophies and the lesser of the spanish cups twice too... Its all relative! £45m Figo, £50 Zidane, £22 Ronaldo, £25m Beckham then theres the some of the more recent purchses £13m Wodgate, £20 Ramos (for an 18 year old defender!), 18m Robino.... Baptista was about £12m too! The list goes on.....It's impossible to get a £ per cup and compare it because our figure is infinitiy! ;)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2006, 11:14:54 PM
if you were to go to european countries and asked people about PL teams I honestly don't think we'd be in the top 6 they mention.

You would definitely be mentioned in the top 6 clubs in the EPL.

Chelsea
Man U
Liverpool
Arsenal
straight off in all countries...

Then it depends what country your in... strange clubs have links and are popular, Fulham in France etc

Sadly I don't believe it is as clear cut as I'd like it to be....


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 05, 2006, 11:16:00 PM
Spurs and then Newcastle.

Michael Owen, Alan Shearer


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 05, 2006, 11:17:26 PM
How do you measure under achieving? in the last nine or ten years Real have only won the league twice, they have two european trophies and the lesser of the spanish cups twice too... Its all relative! £45m Figo, £50 Zidane, £22 Ronaldo, £25m Beckham then theres the some of the more recent purchses £13m Wodgate, £20 Ramos (for an 18 year old defender!), 18m Robino.... Baptista was about £12m too! The list goes on.....It's impossible to get a £ per cup and compare it because our figure is infinitiy! ;)

To mention Newcastle as underachievers and then in the same breath mention Real Madrid is laughable. Real Madrid have won 39 trophies since 1969.

BTW Real Madrid have won 3 European Champions League titles in the last 10 years.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2006, 11:22:05 PM
How do you measure under achieving? in the last nine or ten years Real have only won the league twice, they have two european trophies and the lesser of the spanish cups twice too... Its all relative! £45m Figo, £50 Zidane, £22 Ronaldo, £25m Beckham then theres the some of the more recent purchses £13m Wodgate, £20 Ramos (for an 18 year old defender!), 18m Robino.... Baptista was about £12m too! The list goes on.....It's impossible to get a £ per cup and compare it because our figure is infinitiy! ;)

This statement is rubbish and you know it!

I'm merley trying to show how it is impossible to judge under achieving the point where NUFC can claim the mantle of being massive under achievers... the game is all relative - the above figures show that the gap between RM and NUFC in spending is far greater than say NUFC and average PL clubs. Do you not think that Real Madrid have massively under achieved in the last ten years?


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2006, 11:23:17 PM
Spurs and then Newcastle.

Michael Owen, Alan Shearer

I'd even put us above Spurs! Not sure they're known outside of North London ;scarymoment;

I think the injury to Owen and our lack of european games this year will have pushed us down the list on a short term view....


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 05, 2006, 11:29:40 PM
Do you not think that Real Madrid have massively under achieved in the last ten years?

Not really. They have won 12 trophies in the last 10 years.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 05, 2006, 11:31:03 PM
Spurs and then Newcastle.

Michael Owen, Alan Shearer

I'd even put us above Spurs! Not sure they're known outside of North London ;scarymoment;

I think the injury to Owen and our lack of european games this year will have pushed us down the list on a short term view....

We are the 4th most supported EPL club in the world.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2006, 11:34:02 PM
Not sure I can make 12 off their website over the ten... can get to nine... but thats over ten not nine years! But they have definatly underachieved during the time of all the above spending.... hence each manager not being able to fulfil the objectives and lose his job after a year (if he's lucky)

Anyhow.... that Tommy Craig bet isn't looking too bad. If Freddy wants Roeder and people stand in his way there is no doubt he'll jsut go round the rules - might be fun making a bookie pay out on a tile other than manager thou!



Edited to change there to their...sadly wasnt one to let go as a typo!


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2006, 11:35:49 PM
Spurs and then Newcastle.

Michael Owen, Alan Shearer

I'd even put us above Spurs! Not sure they're known outside of North London ;scarymoment;

I think the injury to Owen and our lack of european games this year will have pushed us down the list on a short term view....

We are the 4th most supported EPL club in the world.

Would like to see that list.. No doubt matches this year being put on back home for the young left back (Ji or Lee?) might have boosted people who they can claim though.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 05, 2006, 11:41:41 PM
Not sure I can make 12 off there website over the ten... can get to nine... but thats over ten not nine years!

League Titles: 1996-97 2000-01 2002-03    

Champs League: 1997-98 1999-00 2001-02

UEFA Super Cup: 2002

Intercontinental Titles: 1998 2002    

Spanish Super Cup: 1997 2001 2003


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2006, 11:47:54 PM
Not sure I can make 12 off there website over the ten... can get to nine... but thats over ten not nine years!

League Titles: 1996-97 2000-01 2002-03    

Champs League: 1997-98 1999-00 2001-02

UEFA Super Cup: 2002
Intercontinental Titles: 1998 2002    

Spanish Super Cup: 1997 2001 2003


Yep, the three bolded I discounted on the grounds that they aren't proper competitions....Spanish super cup is rated less highly than the carling cup.

That is under achieving still for Real Madrid and with the money spent... ITS IS ALL RELATIVE, hence why Waford aren't compared with Chelsea's titles....


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2006, 11:51:25 PM
How do you measure under achieving? in the last nine or ten years Real have only won the league twice, they have two european trophies and the lesser of the spanish cups twice too... Its all relative! £45m Figo, £50 Zidane, £22 Ronaldo, £25m Beckham then theres the some of the more recent purchses £13m Wodgate, £20 Ramos (for an 18 year old defender!), 18m Robino.... Baptista was about £12m too! The list goes on.....It's impossible to get a £ per cup and compare it because our figure is infinitiy! ;)

To mention Newcastle as underachievers and then in the same breath mention Real Madrid is laughable. Real Madrid have won 39 trophies since 1969.

BTW Real Madrid have won 3 European Champions League titles in the last 10 years.

Sneaky... editing past posts! I was refering to the period since the really big money came out... once again this is 9 trophies... three of which a poor domestic cup...


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 05, 2006, 11:51:40 PM

League Titles: 1996-97 2000-01 2002-03    

Champs League: 1997-98 1999-00 2001-02

UEFA Super Cup: 2002
Intercontinental Titles: 1998 2002    

Spanish Super Cup: 1997 2001 2003

Yep, the three bolded I discounted on the grounds that they aren't proper competitions....super cup is rated less highly than the carling cup.

That is under achieving still for Real Madrid and with the money spent...

They are still major trophies, if Newcastle won the Super Cup or the World Club Championship, it would still be classed as a trophy.

ITS IS ALL RELATIVE, hence why Waford aren't compared with Chelsea's titles....

 ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep;


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2006, 11:53:03 PM


 ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep; ;sleep;

[/quote]

Exactly... You've missed the whole point of it not being comparable


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 05, 2006, 11:54:22 PM
Rooky9 stop moving the goal posts.

"They are not real trophies" or "only since the real money came in" or "In the last 9 or 10 years"







Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 05, 2006, 11:58:36 PM
My goal posts were firmly fixed at 9 years and major trophies... the beauty of stats - you adjusted an extra year to tell a story closer to yours, i left them out to reflect mine.... I did reference mine to the spending money (In fact it was probably more like 7 than 9 but i'll let you have them for free to make it more neutral - it you look at it since the Zidane and Figo year its even worse!)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 06, 2006, 12:31:23 AM
My goal posts were firmly fixed at 9 years and major trophies... the beauty of stats - you adjusted an extra year to tell a story closer to yours, i left them out to reflect mine....

You said last 9-10 years. When people make statements, they usually go for a round figure( 5 years, decades etc...)

In the last ten years, do you think Real Madrid have spent 12 times more money in the transfer market then Newcastle?


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: The Baron on May 06, 2006, 04:17:02 AM
3 European cups in 10 years is underachieving? There is no bigger prize in club football! It is precisely WHY you spend £37M on Figo and £48M on Zidane. Have Chelsea not spent more and won less? Not exactly considered underachievers though are they?

I want Liverpool to spend lots of money and "underachieve" then!

This argument has more holes in it than a sieve. No offence Rooky, but it looks like an premeditated argument used by Newcastle fans many times down the years to defend their awful trophy record.

Trophies count. Nothing else matters. Just ask Forest fans.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: dan on May 06, 2006, 12:25:57 PM
i dont actually have much of an opinion or take any side with this discussion because i can see both sides of it. nemisis says madrid arent underacheivers because they have won 3 CL in 10 years which i have to agree with but rooky says they are in terms of money spent.

if most teams won what madrid have won in the last 9 , or if you like, 10 years they would be very pleased but i think the pressure they put on themselves means if they have a trophyless season (which i think they have had for 3 seasons now) means they are "underacheiving"

i beleive beckham said it would be a disater if he was never to win anything at madrid


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: dan on May 08, 2006, 08:29:23 PM
just looked on betfair and MON has gone out to 32 and roeder is as short as 1.35 has there been any more news or annoucements on this


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 08, 2006, 09:30:41 PM
There was something on Skysports but wasnty anything official or new for that matter!

Not much doubt that he'll get it in some form or another. I did like his comments on the radio over the weekend about some of the people saying he shouldnt be allowed, and he made a tactical substitution at the weekend which I haven't seen for many a year! (other than defender for a striker!)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ukgatsby on May 08, 2006, 09:58:35 PM
Newcastle season ticket holder since the late 70s. My own personal view (no inside info just calling it as i see it)

Hitzfield -  Many fans number 1 choice in that he has an impressive cv and is alledgedly interested
Big Sam - Already walked out of an interview once last year and Not a favourite of the fans because of style of football
Stuart Pearce - Would be a popular choice but settled in Manchester and may have been privately warned off NUFC by Keegan
M.O'Neil - Not ready to come back and happy to wait for Man Utd . Also a well publicised Sunderland fan who has went on record at talk ins that he would never manage Newcastle.
Curbs - ok in current role but doubtful whether he could step up and face our almost impossible demands of success.
O'Leary - Please god no !!!!!!
Paul Jewel - Highly thought of but question mark over whether he could handle some of the overpaid brats at Newcastle
Sven - Not a hope in hell
Mike Newell - Been talk of a joint post with Shearer but it aint going to happen.

Shearer has played 10 years and is the all time leading scorer , he is savvy to know that hes a playing legend however when he hangs up his boots there is a forward line up of ....

Owen who will....

a) score 30 goals a season 50/1
b) stick around for at least 1 more season and maybe play 15-20 games 6/4
c) have a half decent world cup and be away in the summer 1/2

That realistically leaves a forward line up of Amoebi (crap) , Chopra (div 1 class at best) , new signing (realistically someone who is not getting his place in another prem team) That combination means just like Wednesday a struggle to score goals . That with an iffy defence means Newcastle more likely to be in the bottom half . Shearer was negotiating a broadcasting contract when he said he was playing and those negotiations were put on hold. He wont jump in at the deep end and take over a struggling Newcastle side . If he is to be the Newcastle manager it is more likely to be in 3 or 4 years time. Let someone else start from scratch and take the flak. I would be amazed if he hasnt had that conversation with Newell and put him off.

Glenn Roeder currently acting coach is well thought of at NUFC and was offered the job but his past bad experience and illness at West Ham has put him off. If Newcastle were to somehow qualify for Europe or win the FA Cup then he would take it full time but like Shearer isnt keen on diving in at the deep end with failure more expected than success.

The next manager ideally will currently not be employed already thus saving yet another expensive settlement. Hitzfeld with his impressive cv , availability and willingness is amongst the favourites and my pick and a lot of the fans. He is experienced and wise enough to be able to start from scratch whilst still playing attractive football. Freddie wants him as he is the best and most viable candidate. The negotiation are alledgedly ongoing and the board are just waiting till the end of season so they can plan their strategy and decide what funds would be available to the new boss.

I expect about £10-15 million to be available with any extra coming from the sale Bowyer , Luque and unfortunately but probable..Shay Given.


Paul


Glenn Roeder currently acting coach is well thought of at NUFC and was offered the job but his past bad experience and illness at West Ham has put him off. If Newcastle were to somehow qualify for Europe or win the FA Cup then he would take it full time

 :)up :goodpost:


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ukgatsby on May 08, 2006, 10:10:24 PM
Posted: 04 Mar 2006 18:45    Post subject:   

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George Graham knocked us back as a player and has before also knocked us back as a manager saying the job didnt interest him. I dont see what he brings to us . We have surely had enough of Dour scots. Dalglish and Souness were playing legends but couldnt do anything in the St James Park hotseat .

Hitzfeld has been offered the job apparantly but is waiting on other offers and to see how we end the season to see if we would be in Europe and how much would be available for players.

My own feeling is that a new boss will have 10 million to spend. Anything else will depends on any transfer fees received for Luque , Bowyer , Owen (???) and even worse Given (Anywhere i can back him to be Arsenal number 1 next season ??)

Failing that then i think Glenn Roeder could be almost forced into it. FS could say if you dont want the job then you dont want to be here so youre out of the academy. After 5 wins and a draw so far , all be it against lower opposition, the team is playing decent football with a spirit not seen since the Keegan days.

Roeder would love deep down to be manager but was badly scarred by his experience at West Ham as well as his illness at the time. But me personally dont you learn from bad experiences. How many people crack it first time.

If we can get a world class manager then fair enough but if not i would rather have Glenn than Big Sam , GG , Paul Jewell , Alan Curbishley etc

Each 90 mins Glenn gets closer to the job. He will get us top 10 this season and realistically could any big name come in and do any better ?

NAP Hitzfeld with a saver on Roeder
 


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Karabiner on May 08, 2006, 10:57:28 PM
I agree with you UKG, Roeder would be a no-lose appointment much like Everton's with Moyes.

And who knows it could continue to go well.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on May 10, 2006, 03:18:55 AM
i have finally bet all the profit i had on the field onto roedar allthough a few mistakes in last 2 weeks have lost me a couple of hundred i will make about £250 on roedar i still have a few outsiders though with hizfield earning me quite a few bob and £35k if neil warnock decides he wants the job (come on neil take the job and i will buy us both into this years WSOP main event)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 10, 2006, 08:55:16 AM
rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao Roeder named as Newcastle Boss. rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao


The Newcastle board will never learn. After this mess up, they should sack the board.

Ruud Van Nistlerooy for Tottenham


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 10, 2006, 12:37:11 PM
Jumped the gun a little... NUFC have dispensation should they WISH to appoint him! :D

"Should we wish to appoint Glenn Roeder as our next manager it is nice to know we have the support of fellow clubs, and I'd like to thank them and the Premier League for their understanding.

"We will make an announcement on the managerial position at Newcastle United for next season at a press conference on Monday".


Ruud to Tottenham if Carrick goes the other way... If not he may as well come to play for Roeder! (or he could go to that little team in northern Italy - AC/DC?!)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 10, 2006, 03:13:28 PM


Ruud to Tottenham if Carrick goes the other way... If not he may as well come to play for Roeder! (or he could go to that little team in northern Italy - AC/DC?!)

I would love Ruud at Spurs, but I dont think he is compatible with the strikers already at Spurs. Also, if it meant Spurs losing Carrick, I would prefer to have Kuyt, as Carrick really is indispensable.

Maybe Ruud for Arsenal...


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Ironside on May 16, 2006, 12:34:00 AM
i made a right balls up with roedar and lost about £200 of the money i had made elsewhere on him but tomorrow 9 am when they announce roedar i will still get slightly over £200 still £200+ green on everyone (more that 30K green on a few) but not worth putting the £200 on at 1.05 so i will keep it as a safety blanket incase the NUFC board comes out with a shocker


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Junior Senior on May 16, 2006, 10:54:21 AM
just been named. BBC Sport


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 16, 2006, 10:56:33 AM
just been named. BBC Sport


Good. rotflmfao


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 16, 2006, 06:16:36 PM
50 games like the last 15 and I'll be laughing....


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 16, 2006, 06:17:38 PM
Yes, look at West Ham.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 16, 2006, 06:18:54 PM
?


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on May 16, 2006, 06:23:12 PM
The end of an era for Newcastle, Shearer retires and now you have roder in charge, lets see if you still get the 50000+ when your in the championship and not the 7000 when you was last in the old division 1.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 16, 2006, 06:29:39 PM
The end of an era for Newcastle, Shearer retires and now you have roder in charge, lets see if you still get the 50000+ when your in the championship and not the 7000 when you was last in the old division 1.

Rubbish, absolute rubbish.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 16, 2006, 06:37:07 PM
Roeder is the worst managerial appointment ever.

Why do you think he was in charge of your youth team? As Newcastle are one of Spurs biggest rivals, I really hope he does get you relegated like he did with West Ham.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 16, 2006, 06:45:34 PM
Roeder is the worst managerial appointment ever.

Why do you think he was in charge of your youth team? As Newcastle are one of Spurs biggest rivals, I really hope he does get you relegated like he did with West Ham.

No chance of that.

Tis a waiting game now..... I can't see anything in the way of him making them play the same style of football as he did in the last 3 months, and, if he does - we will be al reet.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Acidmouse on May 17, 2006, 09:00:04 AM
Did you know that when he was with Watford in 1995, he got them to 7th. Next season? Relegated .

With West Ham, he got them to 7th. Next season? Relegated.

What position did Newcastle finish? Yup, thats right. 7th.

66/1 Newcastle to go down @ Corals. I fancy a fiver on it.


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Nem on May 17, 2006, 11:36:12 AM
Did you know that when he was with Watford in 1995, he got them to 7th. Next season? Relegated .

With West Ham, he got them to 7th. Next season? Relegated.

What position did Newcastle finish? Yup, thats right. 7th.

66/1 Newcastle to go down @ Corals. I fancy a fiver on it.


Worth a fiver ;)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: SKIPPYSKIP on May 17, 2006, 06:55:28 PM
worth more than a fiver 8)


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: NoflopsHomer on May 17, 2006, 08:03:35 PM
The smugness from some of you isn't exactly becoming...


Title: Re: next newcastle manager
Post by: Rooky9 on May 17, 2006, 08:12:34 PM
To the point of me thinking I might want to take the bet myself....