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Well, this might be a first. Live tournament updates from my Ford Fiesta.

I'm at a standstill on the m6...

kick off sure to be delayed.

jen will be there tho

Any chance of a chip count  :D

Hi Snoops. Is there anyone you want me to mention and end up giving the kiss of death to?  ;scarymoment;

superb updates yesterday snoops and jen,looking forward to today

pass my best wishes to the blessed one (mr thew) and tikay
thanks

Hope you get there soon Snoopy , good luck to all playing today  :)up

Noflops did u play in the omaha on friday? I couldnt get there :(

And just like that...

I've arrived.

Not sure how. One moment I'm typing on the lappie in the ol' Fiesta Encore, the next minute I'm racing into the casino.

Not sure how it happened. It was like the parting of the seas, the traffic just started moving like normal.

Rumour has it that there was a diver on Junction 10. Police, paramedics, helicopters, the whole damn kaboodle. What a kafuffle. I just hope they persuaded the poor fella off the bridge before it was too late.

The word on the street is that we're heading for a 3.30 start, but that's looking a bit shakey at the moment.

To be honest, I'm just glad to be here. I was sure I was in for the long haul.

So here's your chip recap -


Table 1

N. Peters   30,000
A. Nunn    17,900
S. Zach     34,900
P. Peters   80,000
M. Herron  15,200
W. Tann    53,400
J. Potter    43,300
C. Khola     35,500

Table 2

R. Mulla     35,600
P. Singleton  23,200
P. Smart     57,100
NH. Kazi      58,800
S. Walmsley 34,800
D. Grosvenor  33,000
N. Gibson     40,400
P. Dargan     53,000

Table 3

D. Baine     69,600
T. Flanders  57,300
P. Iaconou  17,700
MZ. Hussain  13,100
P. McCluskey 47,600
I. Donaghy   27,700
N. Greenhalgh  46,000
N. Slade        54,100
T. Kendall      16,400

Table 4:

Julian Thew -- 91,900
S Hardwick -- 21,200
J McNeill -- 41,200
R Debeaulox -- 66,900
Iwan Jones -- 26,000
D Watson -- 80,400
J Atkin -- 97,000

Table 5:

Mark Jones -- 77,000
Alan Davies -- 22,700
M Nicholson -- 67,900
John Shipley -- 23,300
Don Jones -- 52,600
Con Cronin -- 32,800
Andy Gomm -- 51,600
K Daly -- 112,700

Someone topped themselves off that bridge about 7 months ago, rumour was he did his B****ks in the casino and walked out and jumped.

Well we think the traffic all started moving fairly quickly, which makes us hopeful that nothing too dramatic happened....

Anyway, the call to unbag last night's chips has just come.

Hi guys, gl to yoyo and tikay, aka Golden B*****s and Hue Jarce

I'm grinding away in the Sunday lunch

We're almost ready for the restart.

tikay is on a sort of mini feature table. No cameras or anything, but there are some disco lights hovering above the table. Maybe we'll see tikay get on down.

Blinds are 1000/2000 with a 60 minute clock.

40 players remaining.

tikay makes a move before they've even started!  He's already up 100 whole chips thanks to the race.  Looks like luck is on his side today!

No I didn't. I had to work, besides, my bankroll is all being saved up for Vegas. Tickets and flights hopefully booked by Tuesday. ;)

Wish Tikay and Thewy all the best.

In hear David Baine is magic when he gets chips......

 ;iagree; ;iagree;

Ed G is present too.

I was sure he spelt his name Giddons, but apparantly it's Giddins.

He even showed me his passport to prove it.

Phew, I'm glad I didn't have a bet with Ed on that 1.

I was sure he was wrong.

Also, wish Woody Deck good luck. I've heard AJ might be his lucky hand.

With John Shipley just this moment arriving, everyone is now present.

tikay is OUT

He made a move with Qs 9h but found D Baine sitting on pocket tens, Ts Td.

Board = 5c Kh 8h Kd 2s

Oh Well.

Not a great weekend for the blondeites.

And we have our second short stack exit in the form of Andrew Nunn whose 17k put him in the same kind of position as tikay.  I saw him nick a couple of sets of blinds pretty gamely, but next thing we know it's that call of "Seven here" from the dealer.  Sorry, no more detail at present.

Somehow, Willie Tann is OUT

JJ v AK

Snoops/Jen, wish Womble and Simon Zacharakarakapopodopolous all the best of luvk please :)

While there have been some surprising early casualties, there have been quite a few short stack doubles too -

Like.... Pavlo I whose  Aspades Kc remained good against  Kd Jd
Or.... Leery Nick Slade whose Qd 8d called down an  Aspades 6s bettor with the board coming out Q 6 10 3 10, to double through
Or... S. Hardwick's JQ which beat Ronnie Debeaulox's AK (that brings up an odd sense of deja vu)

So it's all go, one way or another right from the start.

A pre-exit tikay at the disco table.

His assassin? The chap in seat 1, D Baine. Not David Blaine, although it took some magic to get rid of our tikay.




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Quick update on Woody Deck for you.

I spoke to him briefly earlier today. The bad news is that he's a shortstack, but the good news is that he's in high spirits.

I have full confidence in our Woody that he can pull this one out of the bag.

Good luck Mr Deck, I for one am behind you. Now go get them son!

I was passing the now-defunct Table 3 when there was a dwell over decision for All the Chips going on in Mr. Greenhalgh's mind.
The board:  Ts Js Qh Qs 3d  on which he was put to the decision by Nick Slade.

Eventually he called for the rest of his chips (there was 30k in the pot) with Qd 8d but found the mighty 4s 5s in Nick's hand.

Say howdy ho to Mr Andy Gomm. One of only two inverted chair sitters remaining. If you're lucky, I'll post a piccy of the other 1 later... but only if you're good.



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Kev?

Happy Birthday sunshine.



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i think she is the dealer that i kept getting to say "Bovril"  the way the brummies say that really cracks me up :)   thanks for the pic... more pics would be appreciated;)

what did happen to him when he raised with AJ last night? and did he make it back from the Broadway in time to play after the break?

GREAT pic snoops....she is Lovely (more of the same?)

 rotflmfao

You're a funny man-beagle.

A few chippy counts for you:

N Peters -- 26k
Simon Zach -- 67.5k
P Peters -- 115k
MZ Hussain -- 36k
Andy Gomm -- 45.5k
Kevin Daly -- 105k
M Nicholson -- 105k
Nick Slade -- 144k

And another one's down - I. Donaghy, who found  9d 9c at the same time as James Atkin found  Jc Jd - and once it was all-in preflop, another Jack to clinch it and gain him another 20k or so, propelling him further towards the chip lead, which is now under contention (Kevin Daly, Nick Slade and now James Atkin are fighting over it...)

The ace jack managed to stand up against the ace king no worries.

It was a bit of a rush job in the end, but he managed to get back over here just in time. Thank God for the breaks which allowed him to play these two comps simultaneously.

Tim Flanders has doubled through Dan Watson, who was 80k at the start of the day. He's now down to 22.5k and looks pretty peeved.

Flanders raised on the cut-off, Watson reraised from the button, Flanders moved all-in, Watson called.

Watson -- 9c 9d

Flanders -- Js Jc

2c Ahrt Td 3h Ks

James Atkins punched the air and confessed to passing an ace.

Julian mucked pocket twos.

How many chips has Con "dazzler from smethwick" Cronin got snoops?
Say hello from ginge for me please

Just received an update from At-It Bradley.

Apparantly, Wood Deck, who is sitting on a 200k stack, raised all-in preflop after a few limpers...er limped.

They all passed, Woody showed 8d 7d.

I believe Ian intends to undertake a prematch interview with our Woody.

 ;goodvevil;

Hey Djinn, seeing as you're online you can listen to these boys

http://www.myspace.com/hogscraper

Go on, do it in the casino, you know you want to...

The way that they say "mushroom biriani" is the one that gets me  :D

The voice from above informs us that the blinds are now 1500 and 3000.

 :birthday: :birthday: :birthday: :birthday: :birthday: :birthday: :birthday: :birthday: ;karabiner; ;karabiner; ;karabiner; ;karabiner; ;karabiner;happy b day to meeeeeeeeeeeeee lol any news of the welsh boys snoops codeyes and twiggy lol wish them luck for the lunatic thnx m8

Womble -- 41k
Pete Singleton -- 20.5k
Simon Zach -- 141k
Nick Slade -- 201k
Yoyo -- 143k

A big old hand just went down over on table 5, with Morris Nicholson's 6k river bet being called by not only Kevin Daly but Nick Slade too.

The board had three clubs, a Queen and two Jacks on it - and it turned out that Nick's Jack in his hand was good.  Here he is raking in some (more) chips...

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What is Britt wearing in her hair??? i know i aint seen her in a while but i dont ever remember seeing that before lol,

good luck to any remaining blondes, any of the blackpool mob dealing this week?

Much though nothing would spice up Day Two like some good ol' time banjo music, we are working off DIALUP here - practically the stone age!  Will keep on truckin' though... they are playing "satellite of love" in the casino right now, would be a shame to adulterate it...

Death bluegrass! You've never heard a banjo sound so evil. And the singer's in blackface, with a washtub bass with a skull stuck to the top of it! Best band ever

Pete Singleton has doubled up via Nick Gibson.

Nick was obviously weak, but it wasn't a massive amount for him to call, so he pushed in the chips.

Pete -- Kh Tc

Nick -- Kd 7s

Board = 4d 3d Td

eeeeeeek.

Turn = 8h

River = 8s

That could've hurt Mr Singleton.

Gwibbo's shortstacked now.

Danny Watson is OUT after moving in with  Kd Jd and finding Julian Thew ready to call with his  Ks Qs.  Here he is (was) next to James Atkin just previously as they competed as to who could count their chips more seriously.

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Nick Gibson is OUT.

He moved his short stack all-in from under the gun.

Womble called from the button.

Womble -- 8s 8c

Nick -- Qd Jd

Flop = Jh 9d 4c

Turn = 2h

Brace yourselves...

River = 8h

Talk about a kick in the testicles.

Why does this game always tease?

And here's unlucky Nick preflop...

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Mrs Gwibbo...

Nick will be home in a couple of hours.

Do you have to say "preflop" like that?

Yoyo always manages to go deep into every tournament he plays. The guy is awesome.  :respect:

AYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRR Womble !!!

The word Phallic springs to mind......

Choppy chop time

All-in preflop.

N Peters = Ad Kh

MZ Hussain = Ahrt Kd

Board = 2d 3h 6s 4d 8d

One second...

we have an exit

(please don't be Woody)

LOL - That's not bad - a wee bit more original than Hayseed Dixie.

A large threeway pot took out S. Hardwick, and gave Tim Flanders a nice haul.  Julian was the third player involved, and once Mr. Hardwick was all-in, the other two checked the Jd 8d Ks flop.

The turn:  5h and this is where Tim got rid of Julian's  Tc Ts with a big bet, while his  Ad Kc was good against the all-in  Qd Qh.

Chipcount for the dazzler PLEASE!!

Super commentary here.  Any chance of a chip count on Mr DargOn please? ;)

Ronnie the Bollox doing his best Kenneth Williams impression.



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Ok, your counts are forthcoming... here's a nice pic of Simon Zach in his futuristic space hat to keep you entertained.

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Do they cover Ace of Spades?

Hi diddly ho neighbour. It's Flanders!



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Your dazzler is down to just 12,000, while Mr. Darg-n has a tidy 80,000.

BREAKING NEWS

A female is still in the comp!

Mrs N Peters.

Blimey. The times they are a changin'.

 ;hide;

Pete Singleton is OUT

They're too evil to cover Ace of Spades, Ace of Spades is for pussies. "I'm gonna kill your doggy, slay your kitty too, and when I get done with them, man, I'll have time for you, I hate you, stab you in the guts, knock you in the nuts, God, I hate you." I say yes! Yes! Yes!

It's "chunky" at home following the updates. Great coverage, how many players are left ?

Talking of female player Nimh(?) Peters has just eliminated John Shipley with the monstrous A7 - she guessed his small blind raise with 10 J (to 6k) may have been push-offable, but he called in the end (all-in for 35k preflop) and the board brought no help to either of them (8 9 K 8 4) and her Ace held up, even though it looked a bit in the balance on the flop...

We're down to 3 tables.

Blinds 1500/3000

18 mins left of this level

Nice updates guys :)

I wouldn't mess with my kitty...

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They sound a bit like Modest Mouse.

Julian Thew is OUT

He moved all-in from the button with Ahrt Qc

Flanders call diddly called with Kc Ks

Board = 8c 9d 4h 7s Kd

He looked rather deflated.

My kitty will squash your kitty

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Shut up Homer, that's the kiss of death.

Unlucky Julian.

P. Iaconou is OUT.

He made his move with Ad 7d but found James Atkin with Th Ts

Board = Td 5s Qs 2d

Potential flush draw on the turn, but the river was rather emphatic.

... Tc

This Atkin lad wears his heart on his sleeve.

Don 'The Thinkers' Jones -- 71.5k
D Baine -- 31.5k
Darren Grosvenor -- 37.5k
Con Cronin -- 24k

Homer, you are the ultimate bokker.

 :dontask:

Make sure I never ask how you or anyone else does in a tournament again...  ::)

are kevin daly and iwan jones still in?

Chippy Breaky Chippy Count (oh I give up, I don't speak Beagle)

Table Lotsofchips:

P. Peters     130k
John McNeill   41k
P. Smart        63k
Ronnie Debeaulox  34k
Nick Slade       190k
Tim Flanders    222k
Andy Gomm    33k
James Atkin     162k

N Peters -- 84k
Mark Jones -- 70k
Simon Zach -- 163.5k
Maurice Nicholson -- 57k
M Herron -- 20k
J Potter -- 36k
Khola -- 25.5k
Con Cronin -- 23.5k

R Muller -- 37k
K Daly -- 52k
MH Kazi -- 21k
Womble -- 69k
Darren Grosvenor -- 33k
D Baine -- 52k
Paul The Dragon -- 162k
Don 'The Thinker' Jones -- 57k

He could maybe put a muzzle on it occasionally  ;)

yes and no

I havent started reading the thread yet but can you wish those reamaining out of that list gl for me!

Espeically Tikay Jame Atkin and Julian.

The milky bars are on me!!!

... although I'm not sure I want one with his hands down there.



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Er, flushy, I wouldn't make any last longer bets on any of your guys but Atkin at the moment....unfortunately.

They've just been on a 10 minute break and are wandering back into the card room right now to continue with the 3-table excitement.

Wish Don "The Thinker" good luck for me please

Shall we have a "Countdown" type game using the writing on that kids shirt ... I can get a 4 letter word :D

Apologies to Snoops for skulking off yesterday - played like a moron.

Sheep

Wish him the same from me too, up the brummies

Kev...NO...........

Con Cronin is OUT

Con moved his shortstack all-in with 5s 3c.

He manages to flop a 3 on a 7d 7s 3s flop, but there were also 2 callers.

J Potter 3k bets the flop, Herron folds Js Ts

J Potter shows 9c 3d

Turn = Qd

River = Qs

9 plays and Conna's a gonna

Nasty one.

LOCK

CLONED

Khola is OUT

other news...

Racing Ronnie has doubled up through P Smart

Aces v kings.

Loverly jubberly

UNLOCKED

Stop playing about and wish Don good luck from me

J. Potter eliminates C. Kkola....

Both short stacked, they saw a Qc 8h 2d flop.  Potter bet out 10k (more than half Kkola's stack) which he eventually called.  The rest went in on the 6d flop, and when Potter showed 8c 8s for the set, his opponent just threw his hand away and stood up.  Can't quite figure out what was going on there, to be honest... but they're down to 21 and going strong.

COUNTED

James Atkin (with regard to his last elimination) does DO TEN LUCK

Tikay has a good word - UNLOCKED.  Nearly all of them there... now for the numbers round.

Tell Tikay to stop looking at my answers and get his own.

You're all fired unless you pass my message on to Don pronto, and say good luck to Racing Ronnie too

there is also a two word description of Phil hellmuth in there ... two four letter words, first word is LOUD, I will leave you lot to work out what the second word is :D

Mark Jones is OUT

Not too tragic. Didn't want two Jones on the final table, could confuse a simpleton like me.

Anyhow, after some preflop action, Mrs N Peters, J Potter, and Mark Jones saw a flop of Th 2h 9h.

N Peters moved all-in, Mark Jones called without hesitation, J Potter passed.

N Peters = Kh Kc

Mark Jones = Ts Td

Turn = 3c

River = Jh

Virtualy double up for Peters.

You shouldn't believe Snoopy when he says he doesn't want multiple Joneses on the final - when four of them started in the comp, he was getting all excited about an all-Jones top four.  Cheering them on he was.  So fickle.

I don't know the correct spelling so good luck to Neve

Its spelt Niamh   .... doesnt look right but it is pronounced neeve  .. gaelic i think

Any pic's?

tikay and Jen reckon I'm a right lazzy git.

What croc!

Anyhow, could someone count Nick Slade's stack for me please. I can't be bothered.

Pinks are 10k, purples 5.

Make it snappy.



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If I don't get what I want I'm going to mount an attack on tikay's bottom

Your numbers target is 682

 your opponent chose these six numbers

75  9  5  8 2 6

you have thirty seconds to solve it, starting now

Love


Carol

Heres a pic of a yob with a mohican... i think he cant play because of an ASBO ...

There's one of me on page 3 I believe  :D

Go fer it anyway Red, I'm bored outta me tree and need a good laugh.

This fellow is standing up and holding onto his coat. Not the best of signs for Kevin Daly fans.



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75 x 9  = 675
5 + 2 = 7

Add them together :)

tikay here.

Spelling lessons`from Couch. Whatever next? "Soild`Play"`by Thewy?

Okay, it's official, well, official as in he's left the cardroom and has no chips, which is kinda official I guess.

Anyhow...

Kevin Daly is OUT.

Don Jones was the eliminator.

A2 v KJ on a J-T-A-8-A board.

75+9 = 84
84 x 8 = 672
5x2=10
672+10 = 682

BREAKING NEWS

tikay arrested when police find a large amount of crack in his underpants

In a statement to reporters tikay said "I occasionally use it for recreational purposes"

The picture of the yob with the mohican and the ASBO didnt appear... lets try again.



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75 x 9 +5 + 2 = 682

 rotflmfao

A thrilling action shot of the man from Wimbledon. He's on 105k.



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Carol here again, taken a couple of minutes off from advertising "No win No fee2 accident claims to give you the following

your target is 763

Unfortunately Woody Deck your opponent has given you six small numbers

7 8 4 6 9 9

good luck!



after that there is a condundrum

NOSSIBESS



GOOD LUCK THERE TOO

I can imagine tikay is Snatch or Lock Stock.

Perhaps in a Bicktop (prob spelt wrong) role or something.

And young Mr. Atkin takes out another player - this time Andy Gomm with his pocket Jacks.  Only Tim Flanders has seen more pairs of faces... So they are hand-for-hand to get down to the final two tables, which are the ones who get some money. 

BOSSINESS

I'm that bored I'm trying to take pictures of the kids sea monkeys!!!

It didn't work...

Bossiness

I demand that someone wish Don good luck for me  DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?

Darren Grosvenor is OUT.

A5 v The Dragon's AQ.

and on that exit, we're down to 2 tables.

Who am I talking to here please?

DON

RED DOG WISHES YOU GOOD LUCK





Mission Accomplished????

OK they're in the Money!

Prize structure, in case you've already forgotten:

1  £69,000
2  £36,000
3  £19,500
4  £14,500
5   £9,500
6   £7,800
7   £6,500
8   £5,300
9   £4,400
10 - 18  Money Back (£1,500)

What about Woody Deck?

struggling with the numbers.. i can get 764

6x7 = 42
9+9 = 18

42x18 =756
+ 8
= 764

That's ok Snoop, just wait until the next time you PM me asking if I know any good chat up lines, or to tell me the rash has come back

You're bored Trace?  Paul Dargan looks like he may be having a table nap (while the Thinker stacks Kevin Daly's chips)

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"This is the captain of your ship... calling"

R Mulla is OUT

He made his move with Ad 4h, but ran into chip leader Flanders who had a scrum diddly unptious Qc Qh

The board was a do diddly Kh 8h 7d Js Jd

This is what is on the LightsCameraAction table at the moment - I call it 'Still Life With Card Protectors and Glass Coffin-Shaped Trophy'

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Jen see if you can grab me one of them tasty card protectors 8)

If Zelda asked you to wish someone good luck, it would be "Yes Zelda, of course Zelda, right away Zelda"

I know its been mentioned before, but that prize structure stinks ... 10th to 18th lose money !!!   ridiculous and until players start making a bloody noise and boycotting events with such ludicrous pay outs they will never change,

Excuse me!!!

The rash is under control now.

Can I be slightly rude and use the word garbage? If you finish tenth you get your money back, and there is 50k!! betwen 3rd and 1st.

OOOOOOOOOOO I want one of those pretty card protectors!!!


Oh and for what it's worth I think that payout stinks  BIG TIME!!

Pathetic etc etc etc

Dont forget the Juice of £25 bobby, so in fact you can come 10th and still be 25 quid down ...scandalous !!

Thank you. please make your opinions known guys, I'm tired of trying to get through to them

Finally got the numbers game

9x6 = 54
54+9=63
4+8=12
63x12 = 756
756+7 = 763 :)

They seem to be oblivious to the ridiculous nature of these payouts in most casino's. I find it amazing that so many people play in events that are this poorly thought out, I know what the old excuse is...big win..blah blah blah but it is quite simply awful.

I doff my cap to you Jazzy, but the "do do do do doodly doo" went ages ago ;)

Payout structure is much too top heavy.

lol

I did win 3 shows on countdown in 2004! so I guess I have an edge! hehe. My countdown teapot was standing pride of place on the mantelpiece til I replaced it with the £300 freezeout trophy hehe!

Kev.

I have a message from this tasty young thing pictured below.

She says thanks for the other night, you were wonderful, but she can't believe you scarpered without finishing the job.

Did you have your beer goggles on?



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She has more chips than Woody Deck!!!

Thats right, pass messages fron pies to Kev, forget about me

LOL LOL LOL ... Alrightjack had one of those pies the other day, I was disgusted to see such a thing being described as a pie .. it was just a huge puff pastry with a minimum amount of meat .... it was almost as scandalous as that pay out structure :D

Biggish pot.

Board = Tc 7h Kd 3c

Flanders bo diddly bets.

D Blaine thinks for a while, before passing pocket jacks.

Flanders shows queens.

Nice fold.

 :hello: anybody there?

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Nice zit Jen

The final two tables...

N Peters
Womble
Simon Zach
Maurice Nicholson
Herron
J Potter
Ronnie the Bollox
P Peters

Ned Flanders
P Short
MH Kazi
James Atkin
J McNeill
D Baine
The Dragon
The Thinker

Can someone wish Don "The Thinker" good luck from me please

OK, rendezvous with the pie thing is over, back to watching the final tables, where chip leader Tim Flanders is still in pole position. 

About the payouts - I don't think people enter these things with their eyes closed - they know that the structure is much more likely to be like this than not.  However in the brochure for the event the percentages paid to the places are not mentioned and you'd have to ask to find out in advance whether 9 of the paid places are actually going to result in a net loss, or how huge a money jump comes at the top.  No one here looks terribly surprised at any rate...

And if you believe that, you'll believe that Snoopy doesn't have a secret plan to get in the background of every 425 final table interview...

M Herron has doubled up.

Maurice raises preflop with A-9 off, Herron moves all in, Maurice calls.

8-4-Q-9-7 board is no help.

Tut Tut  She's been poking and picking and squeezing it too..

Can someone wish Don "The Thinker" good luck from me please

Excellent coverage...Any idea how many chips Mike Herron Has?

Who?

That is what i cannot understand Jen. Players keep turning up paying their cash and playing yet almost all think the prize structures are poor.At the end of the tourney a deal will be done and the highlight event of the week will end like a damp squib, same last week, same next week and same almost every week for the rest of the year. How many more events have to be spoilt before Casinos listen?

The Herron has 91k

 :goodpost: :respect: ;applause; ;applause;

Can someone wish Don "The Thinker" good luck from me please

The Thinker has doubled up.

9-9 v T-8 suited

ATTN:  Marky147 says "Dad has 92,000 chips....."

All your well-wishing, Red, has clearly worked for Don.  Keep up the good vibes.

J Potter is OUT.

Eliminated by Nick Slade.

It would be great if he knew about it

He says he wants you to wish Woody Deck good luck.

Can someone wish Don "The Thinker" good luck from me please


I think all this repetitive stuff spoils the updates

You do it instead floppy...  Go onnnnnn you know you want to!

Would it not be easier to send him a text?

Maurice 'Silent Assassin' Nicholson is OUT.

shot down by Ronnie the Bollox

I'm going to be spending 6 days in an apartment with Jen and Snoops, revenge is a dish best served cold

Maurice's final hand was the 7h 8h, which picked up a flush draw on the turn.  Unfortunately, that particular heart was the Jack which made his opponent's Ad Td into the nut straight...

************************************BREAK TIME*********************************************

RED-DOG!  I personally just wished him a personal good luck message from you to him.  Promise.  He grinned a great big shiny grin and said Hi back to you. 

Thank you

So let's not be serving up any revenge in Austria then, hmmm?

There's plenty of exciting side action among the railers here - we've got a kind of Time The Final Will Start Sweepstakes for £20.  7 of us in and a nice exciting range of times, all of them later than 10pm... we're expecting a long night, in other words.

Can someone wish Don "The Thinker" good luck from me please?

Richard the casino manager showed me a suggested reconstructed prize break down on Friday which was great.
There were in slight increases in money at the 18th -10th positions and the final payouts were a lot flatter.
Dont know why they didnt use it, unless they had already advertised the present structure and it was too late.

Table 1:

Ned Flanders -- 312k
P Smart -- 38k
MH Kazi -- 66k
James atkins -- 226k
John McNeil -- 97k
D Baine -- 26k
Dargon -- 71k
Don 'The Thinker' Jones -- 91k

Table 2:

N Peters -- 132k
Womble -- 110k
Simon Zach -- 113k
J 'Micky147' Herron -- 70k
Nick Slade -- 218k
The Bollox -- 78k
P Peters -- 162k

Can someone wish Don "The Thinker" good luck from me please?

Craig.

I was told that all the player representatives at Walsall were shown the prize structure before the festival commenced. It was agreed upon, which is why it is now in place.

How about this for an idea.

When people register for the tournament, the player votes for a prize structure.

The structure with the most votes when all the players have registered is the one put in place for that competition.

What do you reckon?

well they should ask the players that are playing the festival

D Baine is OUT.

Moved in with Qc 9c, called by The Thinker's Ahrt 8h

Board = Jd Ac 3h 7c Qs

14th place goes to Paul Dargan - -

The Dragon's last stand was with 9d Th, called by Tim Flanders' Ah 9s.  Probably not what he wanted to see, to be honest...

The board came 3s 2h 5s Jd Kc and another one of the earlier big stacks is out of the tournament.  Tim, who started the day with just under 60k, has just continued to build his stack non-stop, approaching 400,000 at this point.

Flatter payout structures are all very well... but let's not go too far.

There were 44 runners in the £1000 tournament at Sheffield last week.

Guess how many places were paid?

(No peeking at the results!)

Any update on Woody Deck?

Last I heard he was chip leader...

P Smart is OUT.

Smart moved in from the cut-off for 36k with Kd 6s.

Called by Kazi on the button with Ac Qs

McNiell thought about calling, but eventually passed Ad Js

Board = Jd Ac 3h 7c Qs

With respect Keith, paying too many places is not what a flatter structure is about

Woody Deck is keeping out of trouble at the moment and sitting on his 400k stack.

I fully expect him to make the final table.

Watch this space for future Deck News. -- as it happens --

I'm not happy about my 11:15 final table bet in the sweepstake.

It's looking very shakey now.

bye bye money

14th place goes to Paul Dargan - -

The Dragon's last stand was with 9d Th, called by Tim Flanders'  Ahrt 9s.  Probably not what he wanted to see, to be honest...

The board came 3s 2h 5s Jd Kc and another one of the earlier big stacks is out of the tournament.  Tim, who started the day with just under 60k, has just continued to build his stack non-stop, approaching 400,000 at this point.

BREAKING NEWS

A woman is still in!!!

Mrs N Peters.

I think it's terrific that we're allowing these members of society to play now.

Top stuff.

 ;scarymoment;

I'm waving goodbye to mine even quicker - 11:45 is very unlikely indeed :)

I think 9 got paid in Sheffield. I am really referring to the prize money jumps, not the number of prizes. What would you prefer to see Keith?

The Thinker takes a chunk out of John McNeill who check-raised him (30k) on a Qc 3c 6d flop.  He called, and it slowed down until two more board cards came down Qd and  Ad.  Then it was Don who bet to take the pot down and leave John with under 40k...

De Bollox doubles up.

Ac 9h v Kazi's Ah Qd

Kh 9s Td 5s 2h

That never happens to me!!!

 ;tk; ;tk; ;tk;

No, it was ten! nearly a quarter of the field got paid. Ridiculous IMO.

I hate to go against the crowd but I think the payout structure is fine, except I wouldn't pay down to 18.

Poker is about winning and the winner should get at least 40% of the prize money.

J McNeill doubles up too.

Can't seem to get rid of the blighters, which bodes well for my bet.

His push with 9s Qs found a caller in Local player Don Jones who held pocket sixes.

Board = 7d 9d 4d Js Td

I agree entirely.

tikay gives Jen a lesson in modern technology.

Didn't take long.



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Every comp this week has ended up in a deal.

So you never chop it then keith?

Simon Zach must have had a cup of coffee in the last break, as he certainly woke up in this hand against Nick Slade in the big blind -

It looks like Nick must have raised Simon's button flat call, because there was an all-in re-raise neatly laid out in front of Simon when I got there (and quite a bit in the middle already). 
It was one of those, "Will you show me if I pass?" moments, and eventually Nick passed  Ad Ks face up.

Simon's hand  Aspades Qs! 

We are going to have to change Leery Nick's nickname to Quiet Nick, or maybe Cautious Nick.  Yes, I like that.

J McNeill doubles through yet again.

McNeill = Kc Ks

Ned Flanders = Ac Jc

Flop = 6c Js Td

Slightly dangerous with the jack to hit too.

Turn = 2c

ooh, brown pants time.

River = 6s

pheweeee

Turtle pops back into his shell.

And that is the right of the players to decide this.

But due to these structures we never get a true winner.

The decision is forced upon them because top heavy structures leave them no reasonabe alternative

12 players remaining
Blinds = 4000/8000
Average Stack = 155,000
1 minute left at this level

If players want to do a deal, fine. That is their prerogative.

But why penalise he players who want to win big money by enforcing a flat payout structure on them?

hows micky doin

Mrs N Peters is OUT in 12th.

Simon Zach = Aspades Ac

N Peters = Kc Ad

Board = Qd Ah Kd Jd 2h

Zach in good shape now.

Because they are in the minority, why are so many deals done, why do YOU do deals?

Back to these last players - and the Rollercoaster Of P. Peters -

He lost most of his chips to M. Herron with a traditional Jd Js vs Ac Kc race (the King fell on the turn).  Then with just 17,000 left (and the blinds at 5k - 10k) he doubled that first desperate time off autocalling big blind Nick Slade who took Jc 4c against Mr. Peters'  Aspades 3d.  The Jack was the first card out, and the 4 the last, but in the middle were two Aces which kept him in the comp.

Then it was his Mrs. who doubled him up again with her Qd Qs, with which she quite reasonably raised his big blind - he just went for it with Ks 9c and spiked that King.
"Well done, darling," was the civilised response...

who was out no 12, or did i miss something?

A few chip approximations:

Don Jones -- 140k
J McNeill -- 125k
J Atkins -- 315k
Ned Flanders -- 300k
MH Kazi -- 130k
Racing Ronnie -- 95k

Go on Don and Racng Ronnie

Micky Herron -- 175k

Average = 169,100

Hi to Red-dog - Its been a while! Sat next to you in a 300 tourney last year - I had KK first hand, doubled up and then doubled again with AA against you!! lol, that hasnt happened since :D

In reference to structures, lets be realistic guys, if you flaten a prizepool so that everyone gets cream on there cake then you will feel slightly deprived of elmea if you win the competion and only get paid 25-45%. Poker IS about winning and evryones time will come...

Good luck to Nieve, she bought me a bottle of Cote de Rhone red at Masters.. and she drank3/4!!! lol

Kojak (Harry)

Gooooooooooooooooooooo Micky

In Finland we had 150 players for a €2000 freezeout. They paid 9 players only which I thought was brilliant.
I turn up for a £100 freezeout that had 29 players or something and that also paid 9. Where is the logic in this??
I don't know about the majority but I am playing to win every single chip in the tourney why should the hangers on get rewarded??

(In the 29 player comp there was a request to give something to 10th and I was given dirty looks for refusing after I complained before hand at the amount of players being paid)

I don't understand the stigma with a deal.

I would like the option of doing a deal if it suits, or playing on if it suits.

A flat pay out structure means I don't have that option.

Hi Kojak I remember you <shudder>

I was asked to attend the last meeting ,just before the festival. I wasnt shown the proposed prize structure for the festival so I cant comment on if it was shown previously.
After seeing the current prize structure I voiced mine and a few others concerns to Paul the General Manager.
The next day Richard asked my opinion on a new structure which I thought was great.

But nobody gets 40% anyway because deals get done. The players are changing the structure in just about all comps themsleves and are happy to take a much smaller % then.

Thats Flatter, not "Flat" and of course you still have the option

Bobby,

What I'm trying to say is, that it's nice to have the option.

James Atkin decides it's time for a raise of Ronnie Debeaulox's big blind with  Aspades 6s.  It's about that again to cover Ronnie's quick move all-in, although James didn't look thrilled to be putting more money in: "You got me but I have to call..."
And indeed got he was - Ronnie showed  Ahrt Kh. 
The board showed the possibility of a split on the turn, but it wasn't to be, and James admitted, "I made a bit of a mistake there..."

well said tom

Thanks Paul, support from an influential and unexpected quater

Keith is a heavyweight in the poker world, I needed a hand there

The 11th place finisher was MH Kazi just moments previously - a tense crowd came round the table as Don The Thinker raised and Kazi pushed all-in on the small blind.  115k in the pot - and The Thinker thought for a long time, and even roared with apparent frustration before deciding that going for it with Qh Qc wasn't so bad after all.  He was up against  Aspades Kc  - which soon looked in bad shape as a Queen fell on the flop and lots of red low cards followed it.

So we are officially Upon The Bubble, and hand for hand until the final proper...

GOOOO DON!!!!

my opinion is it is so hard to get a result and you need so much luck to get to last 2 or 3 its pants that if you dont make top 2 the money is usually not worth the effort you put in to get there.
I think the pay structure should be flatter so that all those that get to the final feel like they are winners .

i would be interested to know whether most players would prefer the greedy structure or the the flatter split . I dont know know what other players think but i prefer the flatter split - probably because i like to plodd into the money .

A HUGE groan just went up around the bubbler who did his thing just seconds ago - Snoops was ringside to bring you the news of the Disappointment and the Joy...

Micky Herron is OUT in 10th.

Phil Peters raises 45k preflop from the cut-off.

Simon Zach moves all-in from the small blind.

Micky Herron dwells for what seemed like a liftetime.

Micky was assured by Dani that if both he and Peters exited on this hand, then Micky would be paid for 9th place due to having more chips.

Eventually he called.

Phil Peters folded.

On their backs...

Simon Zach = Ac Jh

Micky Herron = Kd Ks

Flop = 5c 2c 8d

Turn = 4s

River = 3s

Simon Zach takes a massive pot with a straight.

Hope it's not Woody...  ;pokergods;

very unlucky and very well played micky
i suppose as simon has no luck with women he is entitled to an outrageous amount of luck at cards

 :goodpost: ;iagree; :respect: :respect:

... after din dins.

I have a bone to chew on.

I think there are far, far more important things the players should be concerned about than prize structures.

Most important: a standardised rule book.

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my opinion is it is so hard to get a result and you need so much luck to get to last 2 or 3 its pants that if you dont make top 2 the money is usually not worth the effort you put in to get there.
I think the pay structure should be flatter so that all those that get to the final feel like they are winners .

i would be interested to know whether most players would prefer the greedy structure or the the flatter split . I dont know know what other players think but i prefer the flatter split - probably because i like to plodd into the money .



I'd like to plod at about 10% of the speed you plod at Paul.

On a secondary point vul Micky.............you must have thought you were back online with that river card. Just goes to show you the man dfinishes an honourable 10th with an awful beat and only gets his original stake back after a long struggle and he might as well have finished 18th for the same prize.

And here's the unfortunate bubbleboy...

Micky 'Micky147' Herron



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yet again a uk student showing how u older folk how to play poker ;)  If its possible can you tell james atkin that dafydd's chearing him on, and to play for first and dont deal at any point on final table.  These updates are awesome good work guys :D

well said...net result, he lost a pony.

Wish womble and zach good luckfrom the boys
Simon

1 Ronnie Debeaulox  156,000
2 Phil Peters             90,000
3 Don Jones             251,000
4 Nick Slade             126,000
5 Tim Flanders          314,000
6 Womble                125,000
7 James Atkin           181,000
8 Simon Zach            435,000
9 John McNeill           110,000

Well done to Nick Slade (The phantom sandwich squasher) He lost his first 750 within 5 minutes of the start

More like a couple of samosas, sausage rolls, mini pizza, some elaborate pastries and some smelly cheeeese and crackers!  Weird but welcome!

Can you wish these 4 good luck for me please Jen/Oopnys

Seat 1 - Ronnie Debeaulox -- 156,000



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GL to Womble

Seat 2 - Phil Peters -- 90,000



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Seat 3 - Don Jones -- 251,000



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I'm cheering for Phil Peters.

An absolute legend in the world of gambling.

Seat 4 - Nick Slade -- 126,000



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Seat 5 - Tim Flanders -- 314,000



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Seat 6 - Steve Walmsey -- 125,000



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Seat 7 - James Atkin -- 181,000



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Seat 8 - Simon Zach -- 435,000



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PAYOUT STRUCTURES

I agree with Acion Jack, he is a "plodder".

Serioulsy, the venue holding the event let us all know what the payout structure was and we coughed up our £1,500. Its their tournamant, we're the customers - not the organisors, so we can vote with our feet. The staff at Walsall are great and it would be a shame if there efforts were overshadowed by the payouts etc, we have a choice, play or don't play. However, I would lay big odds that a deal will be done so we won't get a "true winner."

I know when my club opens we are going to come in for some right flack from a section of the poker community, as we will definatley be operation standardised rules and a FLATTER payout structure for 3 reasons: to avoid deals being done so we get a outright winner, less hassle at the final table, and to spread the money around so less money goes out of the game. £1500 is a lot of money for some people and surely the bottom prize should be more than money back?

I know we'll get our critics and I'm sure we'll get a few players refusing to play, but everyone has a choice to vote with their feet. Personally, I'd rather that people did this than play and grumble.

Just my thoughts,

Good luck to Womble and Zach, both top blokes (hopefuuly you guys have not swopped % with Ariston)

Cheer Rob

Seat 9 - John McNeill - 110,000



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Or not bothered to turn up at all for a +£25  :D

Im going to root for Steve Walmsley. A lovely man.

So the final is off and running - here's an overview where they're breaking the ice with some party games: "Simon Says put your hands on your head!"

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I'm not knocking the staff at Walsall Rob, they do a fantastic job and Walsall is probably my favorite card room, I'm just rising an issue, the fact that I'm free to do this is all the more credit to them

Yes, it's their tournament, but it's our money, we should have a say

As for playing elsewhere with a flatter structure, where do you suggest? (And that is not an excuse for you to plug your club)

Here's Ronnie Debeaulox in sophisticated salmon shirt, seat One

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Just out of interest, if they chopped it equally now between the 9 of them, they'd take home 19.1k each. (if my calculations are correct)

That's only a few hundred less than third prize.

Fantastic stuff as always guys. I've just caught up after getting home at 2am this morning, wondering how i can play soooo good then play soooo bad! :D

1st- Very well done to snoops and Jen.. you guys are the best... (i can't wait for Vienna)

2nd- Payouts, i think a whole thread of suggestions might be in order i agree with both sides on some points and it's very contentious.

3rd- Please wish from me the best of luck to Nick from me- (tell him it's from sconehead!!) he'll know who it is then... thanks guys!x

Some of the spectators are self-confessedly more photogenic than the Finalists... "Can I download this picture when I get home?" says its genial subject, the Mad Turk

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You have to feel for bubble boy Micky Herron.

His final pot would have made him chip leader.

That river has probably cost him thousands, yet, he goes home having made a loss, even with a cash finish.

Crikey snoops, that's poker.

if he wanted a couple more grand he could have passed his kings. He played to win and should be proud of what he did.

Ned Flanders raises preflop.

Womble moves all-in.

Ned folds.

The usual cagey start.

I don't mind the 'Money back' for the 9 who miss the final table, I just think the final table prizes could be a little flatter

It's pretty cagey play at the moment, with no one at the desperation stage (yet) and the blinds still at 5k 10k.  That's not peanuts though...

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John McNeill is OUT in 9th place winning £4,400

Flanders = Jd Jc

McNeill = Ahrt Qc

Board = 4c Kh 4s 3c 5s

Flanders:


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SNOOPS-

Did u wish Nick "best of luck from sconehead"?

How's woody doing?

Here's James Atkin who reckons he's a small stack with a decent shot - isn't it nice to see poker players just grinning like Cheshire cats for a change?

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Flushie your going to have to explain that one, I've run out of drugs...

Woody is being interviewed by the ever-professional Poker 425 Team, with their answer to Jeremy Paxman...

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I think it might be some kind of rack....

Hi guys finaly caught up on the days play so far. commiserations to all the guys who didn't make it to the final table.  Your all winners in my eyes.

Good luck to all the players left, nice to see so many regular Walsall players make it to the final so many I don't know who to cheer for

good updates as usual guys  ;cheerleader; ;goodluck;

Mc eptiome aka james atkin has never won a tournament of any note or buyin of over 30 players, im hoping that he can take this down :D  Any chance of knowing the blinds at the present time?? and the stack size of james. thank you for your help.  he's a great guy and backed me in luton when i came 4th so obviously an intelligent man and a awesome poker player, such a card rack tho :D  Just sad that no1s there to support him .  Any chance you can wish him luck from dafydd elias, and tell him well done for what he has done so farl.  Hardest work to come tho

Hope you guys appreciate the sheer volume of top quality work that Snoop and Jen have put in, I do

 ;applause; ;applause; ;applause; ;applause; :respect: :respect: :respect: :respect:

Phil Peters doubles up against Don 'The Thinker' Jones.

Phil moves all-in for 106k, Don calls.

Peters = Jc Aspades

Jones = Ac Qs

Board = Td 5d Jh 4h 6s

Jones is down to around 130k

Blinds = 5,000/10,000

5 minutes till the next level.

jen and snoops are the biz

No one else could have brought us the ups and down's of Woody's tournament in such detail!

Seriously though, its terrifically hard work and iMHO the quality of these updates is getting even better....

Snoops, anyone you'd like me to curse by asking how they are doing?  ;tk;

i'm feeling the lurve  :D

Local favourite Don 'The Thinker' Jones moves all-in preflop.

Nick Slade smooth calls.

Don = Kh Qs

Nick = 9h 9s

Board = 2s Ts Kd 3h 6h

The Thinker survives.

I'm remaining confused, but nevermind it's not the worst state to be in.

On a side note; when Iain interviews someone how many words does he speak compared to the interviewee, assuming the interviewee is allowed to speak to at all...

He looks like he's enjoying his new job!

Fantastic Coverage guys, well done and much apprieciated. Bye the way Snoops, Slick Kid won an Open Race at Coventry Stadium tonight, sp 5/2.

Nice one Slick Kid.

Maybe I should get a few bucks on the little fellow.

 ;letsparty;

No, don't spoil it Snoops

Yes, l agree with Red Dog mate, just stick to the Poker Coverage Snoops

He keeps picking up big pocket pairs, the picture is of a postCARD in a RACK......

Woody is still battling away.

A few words on this plucky fellow. He's one tough customer. Plays with courage, skill, and dexterity (?), and I sincerely hope he goes on to win this event.

Edward, blonde salutes you.

Ok, ok, now I get it.


Hardly worth it tho!  8)

decksterity?

Jen has just been interviewed by Ian regarding her Unusual Suspects victory.

Can't wait to catch Poker 425 next week.

She's wearing an oversized blondepoker shirt, so she's probably going to look tiny on tv.

Ronnie Debeaulox is OUT in 8th place, winning £5,300

It was one of those  Ac Ks vs  Qd Qh things, with his Queens falling to the flopped Ace - it was always going in there and the beneficiary was Don The Thinker, who looks to be approaching chip leader...

Nick Slade is OUT in 7th place winning £6,500

Phil Peter's raises preflop with A-4 off.

Nick Slade moves his shortstack all-in for an extra 29k and an A-T holding.

With the blinds at 6/12k, it's a no brainer, so Peter calls.

Board comes K-3-4-2-6.

The four on the flop sends Slade spinning down the motorway.

We're down to 6.

Unlucky Ronnie, but GO ON Don!!

(ask him what I told him last night)

 ;cheerleader; ;cheerleader; Don Don Don  ;cheerleader; ;cheerleader; ;cheerleader; 5c

hey there, any news on chip counts please?

 :goodpost: ;iagree;  Quite right Red, keeping us Scots in the picture.

Come over to Ireland first Sunday of every month to play my €250 Freezeout :) €46k prize pool last month and no deals.

Terrificly dedicated updating Jen and Oopsyn.

I'm starting to understand why they squander youth on the young  :D

Phil Peters moves all-in from the button.

Tim Flanders calls in the big blind with pocket threes.

Board = 9s 2h 4d Ad 7h

Big cheer from the crowd for the local man as he sits back down.

What did Phil have ?

Here's new chip gatherer Don with over 440,000 and looking cool - a popular guy down here - RED-DOG, whatever you told him last night didn't do him any harm!

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Cracking stuff guys. My virtual hat is off to you.

Snoops have you told the rest of blonde about the beagle, the broom cupboard and the maid yet? :D

 Aspades Ks

Chip leaders:

Phil Peters -- 540k
Don 'The Thinker' Jones -- 460k

Onoyps, what are the blinds? How much does 3rd get? How many starting chips? How many minutes left at this level?

 ;cheerleader; ;cheerleader; ;cheerleader; Phill  ;cheerleader; Don  ;cheerleader; ;cheerleader; ;cheerleader;

Tim Flanders moves all-in preflop.

James Atkins calls.

T-J v 9-9

K-Q-J-2-4

Flanders doubles up leaving Atkins on 128k.

whar colour are the dealers eyes, what colour are the backs of the cards, what did you have for tea, and did you play any heads up games in walsall this week oynops ??

Come on the Everly brothers

6000/12000

£19,500

7.5k (+7.5k)

24


Who are you?! The quizmaster?

Now that DID make me chuckle :D

Come on the Everly brothers

Showing your age there RED DOG

red-dod, cinema tommorow at 12? munich looks good!!!!!!! ;tk;

Deal or No Deal beagle?

Ken Dod's brother?

atkin the shortest stack? time to win some coinflips then

Can I swap my box?

Phil Peters (who is now sporting a 'Kill Phil' baseball cap with a red target on it, pic coming I promise) raised in mid-position to 40k, only to find Tim Flanders pushing all-in on the button.  He eventually passed showing  Ahrt Qh.  Quite right too - Tim showed Qd Qc.

yes. deal?

Cinema wise, I can recommend Lucky Number Slevin....

I hesitate to suggest a caption competition for this one.  But this is one end of the table - Womble, Tim and a slightly distracted James.

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is he playing with his leg

James Atkin "I am sure I had some nmore chips somewhere"

hi jen @ sloopy great coverage , chip counts plz

sorry sloppy

whatever that keeps him calm can only be +ev for his poker ;)

Steve Walmsley is OUT in 6th place winning £7,800

Peters raises under the gun for 52k.

Womble moves all-in for another 53k.

Called.

Peters = Ahrt Js

Womble = Th Td

Board = Jc 5s 7c 6s Qc

i mean slopey

Final Table players are distracted when local Jehovah's Witness comes asking for donations.

tim steve and don : "look just tell em the milkybars are on you so we can carry on playing poker will you!!!!"

Well Played Tory Boy Walmsley, The £7,800 will pay the phone bill this month...

Good luck to Simon Zacharakidopopopopolous now !!!

well done tory boy .

With Flanders and Peters still in, a deal may be avoided.

chip counts please sloppy.

ive gone dislecsic

Phil Peters -- 600k
Simon Zach -- 500k
Tim Flanders -- 330k
Don Jones -- 320k
James Atkin -- 120k

go on mr zack.

BREAKING NEWS

Womble cracks in the interview when Zach starts putting him off in the background.

On a previous interview, Mr Raab was seemingly unbreakable, even when Ariston was displaying a raw nipple.

Looks like we have a new chip leader...

who won the bet for time it finished , i bet youre drained.
these boys get paid for it at the end of the day ,great work guys ,utter proffessionals

Big Hand Confirms Don Jones as Chip Leader -

In a limpy three-way pot it was Simon Zach and The Thinker who both hit the Jc Tc Th flop, but the action really kicked off on the 6h turn.

"All in" was announced speedily by Don, and called just as speedily by Simon.
Don held: Ah Td
Simon held: Ks Ts

The 4h river was irrelevant and we have a large lead taken by Don - 700k or thereabouts

Is it Woody?

I would be if I had that many chips......

James Atkin is OUT in 5th place, winning £9,500

The big hands are coming thick and fast now, with AQ looking good to James after Tim raises (again).  But he got a quick call with a hand he really didn't like seeing (AK) and a raggy board sent the youngster off to his 9am job interview.  No kidding.

Well played James  ;applause;

Would love Don to win, he is a funny guy and deserves a biggie. Go on my son. Dont forget that tenner I borrowed you in Luton.. lol :D

Here was Mr. Zach with a few more chips - but don't be fooled by his shorter stack at present (95k - eek) he still looks this cool.  It's a good look for him.

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congratulaions mc. quality performance to get where u got again. keep it up geeza

Simon Zach is OUT in 4th place winning £14,500

Don Jones raises from the button, Zach moves all-in for 83k, Don calls.

J-J v K-J

8h 6c 4h Ts 4s

Zach's gone.

well played simon

Well played Zach ... ul mate

chip counts plz

snoops can you tell don If he wins this he can buy himself a dab radio and forget the stamp card

A deal has been struck.

£41,500 each.

Rumour has it that Flanders only agreed to the deal if he could be awarded 1st place and the winner's trophy.

Congratulations to all, very well played

Got to say, not entirely surprised by this cut-off of play at this time.  They're  still sitting at the table, however, and we don't know if they can just get up and walk off or some kind of 'natural' conclusion has to be made - I think they're going through those final raisey-cally motions to end the thing, having split it nice and evenly.

;iagree; ;applause; ;applause;

Wahoo for Don, please tell him ginge says well done!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay, this is silly now.

The other are giving Flanders the title as part of the deal, but, as usual, they're being made to play the comp to a finish.

So...

Peters and Jones are just passing chips to Flanders until he has them all.

Peter's just stuck his final chips in with 4-5. Flanders had K5.

Peters hits trip fours.

ah good to see the GC's new rules causing such fun lol

I did tell Don he could do it, and what did he do, he did it, didn't he?

Phil Peters is OUT in 3rd place winning (officially) £19,500

The hand's irrelevant now.

what were chip counts when deal was done?

ooooh i wonder who will win, the suspence is killin me lmao


no 4 hour Hu this time then snoops?? lol

Great work with the updates you 2 once again

A crackle of applause fills the cardroom - and I don't feel that the final was in any way anticlimactic - it was a good tournament and a good final table too.  We've enjoyed the warm hospitality of Walsall (thanks as ever to the great staff) and the cool treat of the mint choc chip ice cream.

Interviews are still taking place, and bizarrely Tim hasn't managed to 'finish off' Don who still has about two chips left.  But to all intents and purposes their minds are elsewhere (having a little celebration most likely).

Don and Flanders are still at the table trying to finish this thing off.

I think Don has two chips left.

Well played to all the finalists. Thanks guys for the fantastic job, you have entertained us for hours.

Congrats to Phil and Jonesy - very well played!!

Your always welcome at Walsall Jen good luck in monticarlo

You too snoops

Cracking job both

What he said, with knobs on

Don Jones is OUT in 2nd place winning (officially) £36,000

Again, hand irrelevant.

What a pants finish by the sounds of things

Good Job Snoops and Jen 10/10 from me will let you get a proper pic of me in Austria (yeah right lol)

Therefore...

Another masterclass in live updating from team Blonde ... congrats to all  :blonde:

well done jen and snoops :)   grand job yet again

I just asked Don if he need an escort to his car, a bit of muscle perhaps incase things got nasty.

He laughed in my face.

 :dontask:

How about this for a team interview?

Don, Maurice, Mad Turk, and Bling Bling all in one go.

And Mad Turk couldn't resist.

"This is just the beginning. We haven't finished yet"

LOL

Oh yeah, and that crew are 'The Firm' apparantly.

Before I forget, many thanks to Zak, Dani, Carolyn, Wayne, and Tom who did a sterling job this week.

The Walsall clan always makes us welcome and their hospitality is most welcome.

I am going to attempt to get back to London now, nice and slowly with a deflating tyre which Tim Flanders might have an electric pump for!  Very kind.  Oh, and here he is - he's given me an Air Compressor With Flashing Safety Light!  Wow.  Now I just need to get At-It to show me how to use it in the carpark...

Thanks Tim, if you read this!  And I'll give it back at the next comp...

Does anyone think its a little sad that an exciting poker tournament finishes this way, in a deal?  I don't at all begrudge deal makers, but there is a problem.  All of this great coverage for not since they made a deal.  Who won?  We will never know.  

I watched the golf match play final today (including 3rd place match) at the casino.  Even the guys not caring battling it out for the 3rd place difference 600k for 3rd and 500k for 4th wouldnt make a deal.  In fact if there were even a hint of deal making both players would be suspended, and barred for life if they actually did.

On a side note, Ed Giddons is chip leader in the £100 rebuy with just 7 left.

A tasty 7k 1st prize awaits him.

Goooo Ed

Big up for the team... excellent coverage..pity that I just got in after my 3.5 hour drive home to read it instead of still being part of it

Well it's goodnight then - don't think we'll be able to conclude the debate on Deal or No Deal but it's always interesting to discuss these things...

Just remains to say thanks to Snoopy who clearly doesn't need an update partner but puts up with me pretending to boss him about admirably.  It's been a pleasure, as always.  See you in Vienna!

Can someone wish him GL for me, and also let him know that i will be welcoming all the extra funds he has made this week into the Brighton poker community with open arms!

Stick a fork in me...

Well done and thanks to Snoopy and Jen.

Great job!(again)

Hiya All.

Tom here (ex Cardroom sup @ Walsall). I'd just like to make a comparison between this final and last years. If anyone remembers Dave C ended up as champ last year outright (no deal), correct me if i'm wrong it was due to his sponsorship deal with whoever it was this time last year, or it maybe cause he just didn't wanna do a deal. But it made for a much better final than what I've read into this year. He went heads up with Junior for quite a while and it was a real tussle and really good to see. In my opinion deals don't make for 'good poker' (as Sami would say). I know it's a lot of cash and all and some of these guys probably won't get into a similar situation for the rest of their poker playing days, but for poker to get taken seriously as a sport (as a lot of people want it to be) I think this kind of occurence ought to be kept at a minimum. Hard to do I know as people will say "it's our money and we'll do what we want". Can you imagine major televised comps/finals ALL ending like this? Televised poker would end up staying on the graveyard channels. Call me naive if you like, just my opinion.

In response to the talk this week regarding flatter payout structures it will appeal to some and not to others, as with everything in poker not everyone will be happy. Like some have already mentioned you poker players vote with your feet as it's your dough but remember if you use your voice collectively and constructively cardrooms will listen to you guys (honest)...petition if you have to because at the end of the day it's the turnout or non-turnout of poker players that'll make or break a tournament or festival.

Lastly well done to Tim (and  Don and Phil, good to see some local boys getting in the mix).

P.S.  Danni..........were you doing your Frank Sinatra impression on the stool again?!

Good news snoops, you're done!

Great updates

Great updates guys. :)up ;applause; :respect:

Hi People

Just to say thanks for support everyone and another great effort from the Blonde Team. Was gonna wright something tricky in response a few of the comments but im knackered ( boing boing ) you know who you are dont you.

Rob your were right Ariston cops again.

Kev you know your a SLAAAAAAAAGGGGG.

taaraa

Just a quickie to say ty to Spoony, Jen and Blonde generally, another great job wd! :D :D

Fantastic updating guys!


You two really are the bees knees of updaters.

 ;iagree; ;applause; :respect: ;applause; ;iagree;

Nice one Simon. I was rooting for you and Womble even though I knew that fish Ariston had a %. Hopefully see you guys in Vienna or maybe Monte Carlo.

Cheers Rob

It's easy to blame the players for making a deal, but the crux of the problem was touched on earlie by Paul Jackson. The prize structure goes double, double between 3rd and 2nd, and 2nd and 1st. This is not true in other sports. If 1st prize collected 32%, 2nd prize collected 25% and 3rd prize collected 20% then the likelyhood of a deal would be considerably less. I'm afrad it's about time that Tournament organisors started changing the percentages so that 2nd 3rd and 4th places took a higher cut from the pool.

Having said that, making a deal where getting the trophy is part of the deal is pathetic. How do you ever know if you would have won it fairly?

 ;scarymoment;

well 35%, 25% 15% in my cardroom and I pay attention ;)

Well done to all the players who made the money and also to Jenn and spoony for there efforts. My raab also did very well with his TV interview, for those of you behind the camers (including the 425 crew) I can only ask how the hell did he manage to finish it?

Agree with Dave C statement in regrads to trophy - its as though it was more or less "rigged" and takes away the excitement. On the other hand, as long as its our cash, deals are here to stay, unless the casinos decide to clamp down. There are however other options which some players often dont think about. A deal can be made to a certain amount, and the rest played for. (Including trophy) This leaves a playable cash amount, and a true winner.

If someone doesnt want a deal that is fine, play should resume - this is a sport afterall. The problem is this - there are pros who more than likely wont do a deal, due to the fact that they might be up and coming and need title wins. Thewy didnt get his name by spliting up the cash every time he made a final table. On the flipside, joe bloggs whos been playing 8 months and paid £25 for his seat through a satelitte and makes the final is different altogether, If he/she is faced with £25k-£45k the likelyhood is it will snapped up.

Deals are not a bad thing, but they should be negotiated properly and enable a remaining play for a true winner. If there is no deal, then play on guys!

Kojak

Just to throw a little spanner in the works as is my wont:

If casinos such as Grosvenor say that they do not recognise deals and only pay out according to the structure.

Does this mean that one must trust those with whom we do the deals to honour them ?

Tim Flanders took the trophy and "official" 1st prize and having met him, I'm sure he's an honourable guy.

But the other two in the deal only had his word that he was going to make up their £41500.

Had he been of a certain ilk he could easily have walked off with the full first place cheque for £70k and there would have been no recourse.

Let's face it, the way things are it's only a matter of time before something like this happens so I don't blame Tim for wanting 1st prize.

Yes Ralph you're right, you have to trust the others, and you have no recourse (except a lump of wood with a nail in the end) If they don't pay you

Which is why it's a daft rule Grosvenor brought in.

Why's it a daft rule that the Grosvenor have brought in?

I think the daftness is the way the rule is implemented rather than the rule itself.

2 reasons:-

firstly, WTF has it got to do with them?, it's not their money how can they tell us what to do with it?

secondly as has been previously mentioned it is open to abuse, what if someone agrees a deal and runs out the casino with the cash? You have no recourse because as far as the casino are concerned they paid out the right money to the right people.

So you would prefer Grosvenor to sort out the money resulting from a deal?

I would, casino's used to take down the details of a deal, check that everyone agreed, and pay accordingly, now, is you go out in 5th say, you still have to wait for your money even if there are no shenanagans

I would prefer it too. However, if we say 'it's our money, we do what we want with it', then we can't moan if we agree a deal and then have to divide it among ourselves.

What I don't like is the way they put this rule in place, but still ackowledge deal making. If they're going to implement the rule, they have to ignore any hint of deals.

For example, how can they object to deals, but still pause the clock while the players discuss a chop. Sounds like a contradiction to me.

When they first brought it in you couldn't discuss the deal at all, you were warned that you would be kicked out of the comp if you were overheard!!
The fact is there is no real way to police the rule, though they still do not acknowledge deals, you still have to play the comp out and they will only pay the advertised payout.

I had a funny one the other week, Con "dazzler from smethwick" and myself were chipleaders on a full final table with 10 mins till the chipcount, Con says will everyone take £100 and me and him split the rest, it was quickly agreed (because of the impending chipcount) but there is a problem...........
There are league points at stake, so "who needs the points?"
About 3 people say they do and there then ensues a quite comical but totally rediculous chipdumping session, with each person who doesn't need points raising almost allin then folding to a reraise!!
It was silly and all because of the rule.

Ian

Did this work or did it go belly up?

This is what I'd like now. At the moment, they have a rule, but are not really enforcing it, which, in my opinion, defeats the point of having a rule.

Exactly Snoops, it is uninforceable (is that a word?).
The end of the day you just all stand up and go to the toilet to discuss a deal, but in reality people just did it at the table and the staff couldn't do anything about it so now they just wait patiently while a deal is discussed, then everyone goes allin every hand.
People who make these rules have no idea what it takes to actually enforce them or whether they were needed at all.

A situation arose after the £300 f/o which pissed me off big time.
When there were 11 players left I suggested instead of 2 players losing money i.e £300 return £325 entry. We make 11th & 10th £525 to atleast cover the entry for the £500 f/o. Everyone agreed as £225 xtra wasnt going to make everyone change their normal style of play.
 I go out 11th and because of Grosvenors rule I have to trust the players and wait till the finals over to get the £225.
About an hour into the £500 comp I went to the final of the £300 and told the remaining 4 players and Dani that i was on table 12 (about 20feet away) behind the partition and not to forget Ive got money to come off the top. EVERYONE present aknowledged me and said ok.
Another hour passes and everyone has left the final after doing a deal with out me being paid.

I returned on the day of the main event expecting to see the players and get my money. How wrong was I.
Respect goes to ED Giddins who gave me £50 towards it as he was one of the 4, also Respect to Julian who gave £25 even though a finalist wasnt one of the 4 who did a deal.
The guy who had the biggest share gave £50 after a bit of memory jogging but the other £100 is gone forever methinks.
All this hassle because of a ludricous rule of not paying anything apart from the stated prizes. What if we had saved an xtra 1k for 11th &10th.
This rule needs looking at badly

This debate reminds me of the all-seater stadium argument in football. The die-hards, Luddites and neanderthals wanted to keep the terracing so they could continue with their right of freedom to move around, jump about and have a craic whatever the safety issue. But football had to move on if it was to be taken seriously as an entertaining sport and one where safety to spectators came before the selfish wishes of the cavemen.

So it is with poker. If it is ever to gain widespread acceptance as a "sport" in the same vein as darts, snooker etc, then the tournaments have to run their courses to determine a true winner, runner-up and so on. Deals in poker are the terraces in football. The diehards still want them but all it does is sustain the image of poker as a backroom activity. Any deal is collusion designed to alter the natural course of the game, and that cannot be justified, even if it is a partial chop with only a rump being played for.

As for Walsall, that tournament was fine until the deal was made. Then it became a sham. There is a long way to go before the "sport" becomes respectable and mainstream in the true sense, while the old practices prevail.

Yes, the good thing about poker is that a nobody can be in the same final as a superstar. A deal may be financially prudent for the nobody but it is done at the expense and reputation of poker as a "clean sport". If the nobody wants to compete at the same table as the superstar, he/she should accept that he/she will have to suffer the emotions of playing for the prizes and possibly missing out on bigger money. He/she should not have the cake and eat it.

It would probably help if participants in tournaments that are promoted as a "Main Event" or "Important Tournament For The Benefit Of This Casino's Reputation" were required to sign an entry form that specified that winnings will be forfeit in the event of a deal being agreed. Hopefully then, players and casinos could agree on a structure that suits both parties.

Interesting post Excorcism, total twaddle but an interesting opinion.
To say a deal is collusion is just silly and insulting to probably every poker player in the world (cuz i'm sure most have done a deal at some point).
As for signing something to ensure no deals, well if the casino put up the prize fund they can do this but seeing as NONE of it is their money they can't really have a say can they?
Until all of us "nobodies" become very wealthy people we are going to be attracted by a £40,000 profit just by saying "yes".

Weekend prizes:

69k
36k
19.5k

I'd go 4 something like:

56
40
28.5

much more chance if being played out.

but greedy if 56k isnt enuf 4 u.

the deal only gave 1.5k above my 2nd anyhow

ifm

I think you are missing my point. It's the reputation of poker as a game played to the finish that is at stake. Until that is the norm, it will not be a true sport.

Your point about players putting in their own money is important though. TV companies, casinos have a lot to do to help.

The trouble here is the bigger the prize fund, the more likely the deal.
Even with your structure a deal would be likely because £12,000 is a hell of a lot of money, with a smaller comp i think a lot would refuse to deal.

Excorcism, as for finishing comps......how do you feel about chipcounts, where the casino in effect make a deal for you?

I'm talking about what should happen if poker is to be taken seriously as a "sport". Important tournaments should play to a true finish. Chipcounts are not a good way to finish either. It's like ending a football match after 70 minutes and taking the score at that point to determine who wins the cup.

Or maybe you don't think it's important? Maybe the status quo is fine. Mine is only an opinion. I don't have the answers but it's an interesting debate.

My opinion is that the players involved on a final table have the right to do with their money as they wish, if they want to deal they should be allowed to without stigma, likewise if they don't.
I have both accepted and refused deals in the past.
Deals will always be done because for the majority of people it makes sense (financially) to take the guaranteed extra money, don't think they aren't done in other sports either.
You mentioned darts, Eric Bristow used to back Phil Taylor years ago, when they played each other in a major final the prize fund was split regardless of the outcome, likewise Taylor now backs a young lad from stoke, the same thing is likely if they both meet in a final.

Fair enough from a player's practical viewpoint, but do you not think ending a tournament early makes a nonsense of it as a serious sport? No one actually won. The "title" being given as a condition of doing a deal is farcical. 

I do agree with what you say but how do you avoid it?
The difference between 3rd and first was £50,000!!, the only people who won't deal are either very wealthy, have agreements with sponsors or genuinely think they are the class act in that game, though we all know one bad beat and you are out no matter how good you are.
Maybe if casinos/sponsors offered a first prize seperate from the entrance funds then people would at least play it to a proper finish, but the chances of that are remote at the moment.

Agree, therein lies the conundrum. The steep structure is one issue. The time factor another.

My vote goes 100% with this quote, Also if ever in a deal situation i try to encourge the pther players to leave money in the pot for the winner, although not the ideal solution it make s the game truer for me and win seem real whatever level of comp it is.
 Dont know if it was a repeat or not but i thought TK got some good points across well about certain failings in the sport on 425 last night.

Luddites were people who destroyed machinery because they feared it would eventually replace them and cost them their jobs in the long term, not for the reasons you stipulated.

The prize money structure really needs looking at for a tournament of this nature. If (and it's a big if I know) I came third in this tournament, I would feel devastated to take £50,000 less than 1st place. I would feel even worse if the 2 remaining players did a deal after knocking me out.

Has to be looked at I feel. I would also like to know why this rule of not acknowledging deals has been brought in? Is it just Grosvenor or is it every British casino? If it's a Gaming Board thing I would like to know the reasoning of it as their opinions normally lean towards transparency for the PLAYERS. When I first started playing, the card room supervisor listened to the deal being made, ensured everyone agreed and adjusted the payout sheets accordingly. As a new player, I was fully confident and at ease with this agreement as I didn't have to rely on other players that I didn't know very well - basically it all seemed "above board". Imagine a new player now being told "Don't worry, I'll give you the £500 when I get paid". Very underhand I feel. According to I Know It, even an experienced player who most people know doesn't get what is agreed sometimes.

I was also told today of a much smaller tournament at Walsall a few weeks ago where all remaining players agreed for an equal split but one player just walked out with above the average that had been agreed on. Nothing the other 5 or 6 could do except split what was then left.

Totally, totally wrong. Although this example is down to an individual idiot, it is certainly contributed to by Dolly Parton Payout structures (top heavy) and the head in the sand ruling of casinos not acknowledging deals.

:goodpost:

Watching the three finalists throw each other chips was a joke in my opinion and a complete anti-climax.

Keeping some dosh behind, as they did at the Broadway would have been much better.

And look at the top notch heads-up display that it gave us.

LDOODKDF JUST A TEST TO SEE HOW I LOOK LOL